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ElAurens
06-28-2004, 09:05 PM
The Yankee Air Force's B 25 D "Yankee Warrior"
The oldest flyable B25 on the planet. Had a 50 minute flight along the Lake Erie shore of Ohio. What a ride!!!!

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ElAurens
06-28-2004, 09:05 PM
The Yankee Air Force's B 25 D "Yankee Warrior"
The oldest flyable B25 on the planet. Had a 50 minute flight along the Lake Erie shore of Ohio. What a ride!!!!

http://www.blitzpigs.com/photos/Dscf0234.jpg

http://www.blitzpigs.com/photos/Dscf0246.jpg

http://www.blitzpigs.com/photos/Dscf0269.jpg

http://www.blitzpigs.com/photos/Dscf0284.jpg

http://www.blitzpigs.com/photos/Dscf0233.jpg

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heywooood
06-28-2004, 09:12 PM
El - where did you sit? behind the pilots or up in the nose?

Was it loud or did you use 'protection' ?hahaha...looks like you had real nice weather.

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GODSOCKv2
06-28-2004, 09:27 PM
Hm.


A few days back I flew a cpoter and my dad flew in a T6.

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Copperhead310th
06-28-2004, 10:14 PM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gifMan! I'm So F*cking hating you right now. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

you SUCK! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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heywooood
06-28-2004, 11:09 PM
someone needs a hug http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gif

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Sakai9745
06-29-2004, 12:10 AM
Excellent Aurens! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Espcially in the picture where you were up near the pilots, how did those engines sound? I've heard them from the outside, but they say that to actually sit between them is where the real experience is at.

And yes, I'm with Copperhead! The envy is at the boiling point! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/cry.gif The 25 is the last in my wish list of WW2 bombers to fly in. ('Fifi' and 'Sentimental Journey' so far).

BTW - Could you pls PM me with info on how you posted those pics? I'd love to share photos of old warbirds that I have.

Thanks for sharing the pics... and remember, WE HATE YOU! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Al - SF, Calif

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ElAurens
06-29-2004, 12:30 AM
Ok, here is some more detail.

During the flight I sat in the left waist gunner position. Yes, it was loud as hell. Didn't have enough DC head sets for everyone so I switched off with other passengers. The only way I can describe the sound is to imagine youself in a sheet metal building during a 200mph ball bearing storm... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

We flew at approx. 2000ft,at 55% power. With this power set we were doing 215 knots. (247mph)
IAS. They limit the engines to 44 inches of manifold pressure for reasons of longevity, and the low lead fuel that is avialable (100 LL), although the crew chief said that the pilot used 45 inches on takeoff. At 55% she burns around 85 to 90 GPH. Also you must remember that this aircraft is much lighter than when flown in combat in WW2. (she flew in the Med.) There is no armor, 2 fewer M2 Brownings, no ammo, no bomb racks, and the old very heavy tube radios were replaced with modern units. She is about 2000lbs. below the USAAF's published minimun weight for a -D model. Needless to say with 2 1700hp engines she fairly leaps off the runway.

We did a very snappily exicuted turn over the Lorain airport. One that would have gotten a United pilot in big trouble...LOL!!! But as I was not hanging from my belts it had to be 1+ G's It felt like we turned on the wingtip!!

When we returned I related this turn to a WW2 veteran Marine Aviator who flew B25's in the Pacific. He smiled. He called the B25 the "sportscar of bombers" Sure felt that way to me.

If any of you ever get the chance to get a ride in a warbird, DO IT!!!!

Don't even think about the cost. In a year you will not even remember how much you spent, but you will remember the flight forever.

BTW... On the weekend of 7-8 August, the Yankee Air Museum will be hosting a warbird fly in at their home base, Willow Run Airport, west of Detroit. They tentitively have 14 TBF Avengers slated to show up.

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[This message was edited by ElAurens on Mon June 28 2004 at 11:48 PM.]

Sakai9745
06-29-2004, 12:34 AM
Hey Aurens. Does the Yankee Air Museum offer rides on 'Yankee Lady'? I occasionally get out to DTW on business, and understand she is somewhere nearby.

Al - SF, Calif

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ElAurens
06-29-2004, 12:40 AM
Rgr Sakai. Go to their website: Here (http://www.yankeeairmuseum.org) it has info on scheduling rides and the upcoming warbird show etc...

Here is a list of aircraft they are expecting on August 7/8...

Grumman (General Motors Eastern Aircraft Div.) TBM-3E Avenger "Ida Red" - Dave Tinker

Grumman (General Motors Eastern Aircraft Div.) TBM-3E Avenger "Blue Lady" - R.D. "Crash" Williams

Grumman (General Motors Eastern Aircraft Div.) TBM-3 Avenger - Wes Stricker

Grumman (General Motors Eastern Aircraft Div.) TBM-3E Avenger - Doug Rued

Grumman (General Motors Eastern Aircraft Div.) TBM-3E Avenger - Danny Summers

Grumman (General Motors Eastern Aircraft Div.) TBM-3E Avenger - Chris Johnson

Grumman (General Motors Eastern Aircraft Div.) TBM-3E Avenger - Tom Buck

Grumman (General Motors Eastern Aircraft Div.) TBM-3E Avenger - Tom Duffy

Grumman (General Motors Eastern Aircraft Div.) TBM-3E Avenger - Hans Lauridsen

Grumman (General Motors Eastern Aircraft Div.) TBM-3E Avenger - Gerry Beck

Grumman (General Motors Eastern Aircraft Div.) TBM-3E Avenger - Jeff Clyman

Grumman (General Motors Eastern Aircraft Div.) TBM-3 Avenger - Mid Atlantic Air Museum

Grumman (General Motors Eastern Aircraft Div.) TBM-3E Avenger - Commemorative Air Force Missouri Wing

Grumman (General Motors Eastern Aircraft Div.) TBM-3 Avenger - Commemorative Air Force Colorado Wing

Grumman (General Motors Eastern Aircraft Div.) TBM-3E Avenger - Collings Foundation

Grumman (General Motors Eastern Aircraft Div.) TBM-3E Avenger - Cavanaugh Flight Museum

Grumman (General Motors Eastern Aircraft Div.) TBM-3E Avenger - Fighter Factory

Grumman (General Motors Eastern Aircraft Div.) FM-2 (F4F) Wildcat - Cavanaugh Flight Museum

Grumman (General Motors Eastern Aircraft Div.) FM-2 (F4F) Wildcat - Rudy Frasca

Grumman F4F-3 Wildcat - Steve Craig

Grumman F6F-5 Hellcat - Lone Star Flight Museum

Grumman F8F-1 Bearcat - Tom Wood

Grumman JRF Goose - Chuck Greenhill

Grumman J4F-1 Widgeon - Gary Applebaum

Beech C-45 Expeditor - Tim Savage

Beech C-45 Expeditor - Chris Cecil

Beech C-45 Expeditor - Chris Cecil

Beech T-34B Mentor - Joe Pardee

Beech T-34B Mentor - Indiana Aviation Museum

Boeing B-17G Flying Fortress "Yankee Lady" - Yankee Air Museum

Boeing B-17G Flying Fortress "Thunderbird" - Lone Star Flight Museum

Boeing Stearman PT-17 Kaydet - Dave Groh

Boeing Stearman PT-17 Kaydet - Peter Chesnut

Boeing Stearman PT-17 Kaydet - Bill Rodgers

Cessna 0-2A Skymaster - John Russman

Consolidated PBY-5A Super Catalina - Charles Clements

Curtiss SB2C-5 Helldiver - Commemorative Air Force West Texas Wing

Douglas C-47D Skytrain "Yankee Doodle Dandy" - Yankee Air Museum

Douglas R4D-6S Skytrain "Ready 4 Duty" - Commemorative Air Force Dallas / Fort Worth Wing

Douglas SBD-5 Dauntless - CAF Dixie Wing

Douglas SBD-5 Dauntless - Lone Star Flight Museum

Fairchild PT-23A Cornell - Harland Avezzie

Lockheed C-60 Lodestar "Lady Lodestar" - CAF Old Dominion Wing

Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon "Hot Stuff" - American Military Heritage Foundation

North American Aviation B-25D Mitchell - Yankee Air Museum

North American Aviation B-25J Mitchell "Briefing Time"- Mid Atlantic Air Museum

North American Aviation B-25J Mitchell "Betty's Dream"- C & P Aviation

North American Aviation TP-51B Mustang - Pacific Fighters

North American Aviation P-51D Mustang "Geraldine" - Chuck Greenhill

North American Aviation P-51D Mustang "Glamorous Glenn III" - Jack Roush

North American Aviation P-51D Mustang "Old Crow" - Jack Roush

North American Aviation T-6 Texan - Jack Roush

North American Aviation T-6 Texan - George Fonseca

North American Aviation T-6 Texan "Little Texan" - Ron Staley

North American Aviation T-6 Texan "Fly Girl" - Dave Holmes

North American Aviation AT-6 Texan "SST Racing" - Rick Siegfried

North American Aviation LT-6G Texan - Jim Greeson

North American Aviation T-6G Texan - Bob Pingston

North American Aviation SNJ-5 Texan - John Feldvary

North American Aviation SNJ-5 Texan - Dan O'connor

North American Aviation SNJ-5 Texan - Tim Savage

North American Aviation SNJ-5 Texan - Tom Wood / Duane Carroll

North American Aviation SNJ-5 Texan - Don Stamp

North American Aviation SNJ-5 Texan - Al Schiffer

North American Aviation SNJ-5 Texan - Mike Schiffer

North American Aviation SNJ-5 Texan - Dan Schiffer

North American Aviation SNJ-5 Texan - Dave Folk

North American Aviation SNJ-5 Texan - Tim Gillian

North American Aviation (CCF) Harvard - Charlie Cartledge

North American Aviation (CCF) Harvard II - Barry Smith

North American Aviation T-28 Trojan - Stu Dingman

North American Aviation T-28 Trojan - Fred Beaver

Republic P-47D Thunderbolt "Hun Hunter XVI" - Neal Melton

Republic P-47D Thunderbolt "Hairless Joe" - Butch Schroeder

Stinson L-5E-1 Sentinel "Patton's Pup" - Larry Tinker

Vought (Goodyear) FG-1D Corsair - Commemorative Air Force

Vought F4U-5N Corsair - Indiana Aviation Museum

Vultee SNV-1 Valiant "California Girl" - Bruce Koch

Vultee SNV-1 Valiant "Bouncin' 'B'" - Duane Packer

Yakovlev Yak-52TW - John Shuttleworth


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stansdds
06-29-2004, 04:11 AM
I have not had the experience of flying in a B-25, but a few years ago I did get to go for a ride in the Colling's Foundation's B-17. What a rush!!!

Noisy? Really not that bad aft of the bomb bay. But when you get into the cockpit area and the navigator/bombardier's positions. Well, I did not have hearing protection, but if I were on more than a short hop I would definitely need it. Yes, near those props it is deafening. You can't hear yourself think, much less fart!

When I went up it was $350 for a 30 minute ride. We ended up flying around for 45 minutes because we had a news crew on board. I have absolutely no regrets about spending that money. It is a day that I will always remember. I tell everyone, if you get the opportunity to go up in a warbird, just do it!

-HH-Dubbo
06-29-2004, 04:36 AM
That is SO cool http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

You suck http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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