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IVJG51Swein
04-06-2004, 04:03 PM
Guys this is for viewing pleasure only and not a bar debate. I thought you guys might like these...The video footage that I will get up later will allow you a clearer view through the canopy...S!

http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A44%3B7523232%7Ffp58%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D6%3B%3A%3 D437%3DXROQDF%3E23234%3C5%3A24%3B%3B8ot1lsi

http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A44%3B7523232%7Ffp54%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D6%3B%3A%3 D437%3DXROQDF%3E23234%3C5%3A24%3B%3B9ot1lsi

http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A44%3B7523232%7Ffp54%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D6%3B%3A%3 D437%3DXROQDF%3E23234%3C5%3A24%3B%3B%3Bot1lsi

http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A44%3B7523232%7Ffp58%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D6%3B%3A%3 D437%3DXROQDF%3E23234%3C5%3A24%3B%3C2ot1lsi

http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A44%3B7523232%7Ffp54%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D6%3B%3A%3 D437%3DXROQDF%3E23234%3C5%3A295%3C3ot1lsi

http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A44%3B7523232%7Ffp54%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D6%3B%3A%3 D437%3DXROQDF%3E23234%3C5%3A267%3B9ot1lsi

http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A44%3B7523232%7Ffp58%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D6%3B%3A%3 D437%3DXROQDF%3E23234%3C5%3A267%3B%3Aot1lsi

http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A44%3C4723232%7Ffp58%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D6%3B%3A%3 D437%3DXROQDF%3E23234%3C3%3C56345ot1lsi

http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A44%3C4723232%7Ffp54%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D6%3B%3A%3 D437%3DXROQDF%3E23234%3C3%3C56344ot1lsi

[This message was edited by IVJG51Swein on Tue April 06 2004 at 05:42 PM.]

IVJG51Swein
04-06-2004, 04:03 PM
Guys this is for viewing pleasure only and not a bar debate. I thought you guys might like these...The video footage that I will get up later will allow you a clearer view through the canopy...S!

http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A44%3B7523232%7Ffp58%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D6%3B%3A%3 D437%3DXROQDF%3E23234%3C5%3A24%3B%3B8ot1lsi

http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A44%3B7523232%7Ffp54%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D6%3B%3A%3 D437%3DXROQDF%3E23234%3C5%3A24%3B%3B9ot1lsi

http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A44%3B7523232%7Ffp54%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D6%3B%3A%3 D437%3DXROQDF%3E23234%3C5%3A24%3B%3B%3Bot1lsi

http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A44%3B7523232%7Ffp58%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D6%3B%3A%3 D437%3DXROQDF%3E23234%3C5%3A24%3B%3C2ot1lsi

http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A44%3B7523232%7Ffp54%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D6%3B%3A%3 D437%3DXROQDF%3E23234%3C5%3A295%3C3ot1lsi

http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A44%3B7523232%7Ffp54%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D6%3B%3A%3 D437%3DXROQDF%3E23234%3C5%3A267%3B9ot1lsi

http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A44%3B7523232%7Ffp58%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D6%3B%3A%3 D437%3DXROQDF%3E23234%3C5%3A267%3B%3Aot1lsi

http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A44%3C4723232%7Ffp58%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D6%3B%3A%3 D437%3DXROQDF%3E23234%3C3%3C56345ot1lsi

http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A44%3C4723232%7Ffp54%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D6%3B%3A%3 D437%3DXROQDF%3E23234%3C3%3C56344ot1lsi

[This message was edited by IVJG51Swein on Tue April 06 2004 at 05:42 PM.]

crazyivan1970
04-06-2004, 04:05 PM
Nice shots, Thanks... but we all know where this all is going ...

V!
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IVJG51Swein
04-06-2004, 04:06 PM
Oh yea, I have some cockpit video footage I will get out as soon as I can get it online....
It allows you to see out through the canopy...

S!

[This message was edited by IVJG51Swein on Tue April 06 2004 at 04:52 PM.]

IVJG51Swein
04-06-2004, 04:09 PM
I know and out of respect to you CarzyIvan if you want me to take these down thats ok. I actually just wanted to put them up since I had a great and fortunate opportunity to get this close up to one. I will delete it or you can if you think it would be best...S!

VF-19
04-06-2004, 04:11 PM
...Where's the gunsight? Other than holy crap that's some thick glass, they're great cockpit shots. They'll come in handy when I build another FW-190.

crazyivan1970
04-06-2004, 04:12 PM
No don`t take it down. Maybe people will be mature enough to appriciate exellent pictures of real warbird and will not turn this into another gunsight disaster. Thank you for sharing those...now how about that video http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

V!
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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

Hunde_3.JG51
04-06-2004, 04:36 PM
As a 190 fan, thanks for the pics. Any real-life 190 pics are appreciated, I just can't get enough http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. Please post video if possible, footage is even better than pics http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif. Thanks.

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carguy_
04-06-2004, 04:37 PM
Not a bar debate!? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

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FW190fan
04-06-2004, 04:48 PM
IVJG51Swein,

Check PM please http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

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IVJG51Swein
04-06-2004, 05:44 PM
FW190fan, I replied...

GK.
04-06-2004, 06:00 PM
indisputable evidence is always nice.

Chuck_Older
04-06-2004, 06:06 PM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/51.gif

Evidence....uh, GK, CrazyIvan WILL lock this or even delete it if this turns into another gunsight debate.

like Swein said,
"Guys this is for viewing pleasure only and not a bar debate. I thought you guys might like these...The video fottage that I will get up later will allow you a clearer view through the canopy...S!"

Please allow this to be for our pleasure instead of more useless debate

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GK.
04-06-2004, 06:11 PM
whos debating? theres nothing to debate. Please post more shots for my viewing pleasure.

Chuck_Older
04-06-2004, 06:18 PM
thank you

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T_O_A_D
04-06-2004, 06:45 PM
Cool shot but I hope they let you take some windex or other window cleaner to it before you took the video. Man I'd donate a week to cleaning her up if they would let me. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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kamaradskii
04-06-2004, 07:07 PM
Thats a good idea actually http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Think they would refuse?
Everyone wins right?

T_O_A_D
04-06-2004, 07:11 PM
Yep I'm sure I'd be escorted promptly from the premises. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

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plumps_
04-06-2004, 08:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by carguy_:
Not a bar debate!? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't see material for a bar debate as it's a series of pictures taken with amateur equipment and only one tiny flashlight inside the cockpit that doesn't allow to see through the window as there is no light outside. These conditions don't tell much about the outside view the pilots had in reality, when it was brighter outside than inside.

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IVJG51Swein
04-06-2004, 09:17 PM
The video should be better......Believe it or not I did clean the windshield....

Oh yea, I think I made it clear this wasn't a bar debate-lol

r0xtilux
04-06-2004, 09:27 PM
Swein,

Whose 190 is this, and where is it? Just wondering. Thanks!

IVJG51Swein
04-06-2004, 10:15 PM
Texas Air Museum in San Antonio. This is one of the four 190s taken from Norway. This is one of the three others that were refurbished with White 4(the discovery channel white 4 espisode). White 4 is going to be flyable in the future. It is in Florida now. This is a great museum, awesome guys running the show. If you get a chance check it out. I just hang out there often so they know me. I'm am doing do volunteer work for them as well. A bunch of fun...

JZG_Yunus
04-06-2004, 11:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by carguy_:
Not a bar debate!? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

http://carguy.w.interia.pl/tracki/sig23d.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Shhh, dont start it Vierbein.
Thats an order http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

Jaws2002
04-07-2004, 09:58 AM
Nice pics. Thx. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

griego
04-07-2004, 10:44 AM
The bar is there. Just not from the pilots perpspective.

Xnomad
04-07-2004, 01:22 PM
Pardon my ignorance but these shots look like they are for a bar debate. All I see is the forward view and very little of anything else. Pictures 2,3,4,6,7 and 8 are just too obvious to be 'just a picture' of the cockpit to admire. I am not going to say anything else.

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plumps_
04-07-2004, 02:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Xnomad:
All I see is the forward view and very little of anything else. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
No, you don't see the forward view. The chaotic reflections of the flashlight within the multiple panes of the screen impede the view almost completely.

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ajafoofoo
04-07-2004, 02:31 PM
Yea, make the exposure time longer and turn off the flash and unless you can somehow get brighter lighting outside the cockpit.

ajafoofoo
04-07-2004, 02:36 PM
On another note, that would be cool if they got it flyable.

A video of it in trimmed level flight might add more fuel to the "attitude" argument about the plane, but can't comment unless that really takes place.

Be really cool to see a real fw190 at an airshow some day.

Venom079
04-07-2004, 02:40 PM
very nice! how about them http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif Videos...

faustnik
04-07-2004, 03:21 PM
! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif !

...nevermind... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

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IVJG51Swein
04-07-2004, 10:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Xnomad:
Pardon my ignorance but these shots look like they are for a bar debate. All I see is the forward view and very little of anything else. Pictures 2,3,4,6,7 and 8 are just too obvious to be 'just a picture' of the cockpit to admire. I am not going to say anything else.

http://www.xnomad.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/sig.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I PARDON YOU - HEHE

I'm sorry about the video, I just had to run out of town for work so this puts off the videos a bit. Sorry, I guess the pictures were a little premature. I tried everything with the photos though....Its a very dark area. This is not a bar debate since there is no Revi Gunsite BTW. You need that and also a forward view from INFLIGHT to debate that. I have learned that throughout researching the issue..

Gimme until next week to get the video out.....I will try my best....

I love the critics....If your so great then why don't you go out and get some better ones!!! LOL

Bearcat99
04-08-2004, 09:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
No don`t take it down. Maybe people will be mature enough to appriciate exellent pictures of real warbird and will not turn this into another gunsight disaster. Thank you for sharing those...now how about that video http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That cant happen... there is no sight.... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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