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p1ngu666
04-19-2004, 08:39 AM
im wondering what all those levers and what not are for in the cockpit. not from trim...

and where the wings made out of metal?
need to know for a skin http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
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p1ngu666
04-19-2004, 08:39 AM
im wondering what all those levers and what not are for in the cockpit. not from trim...

and where the wings made out of metal?
need to know for a skin http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
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F19_Orheim
04-19-2004, 08:45 AM
"Its all-wood, monocoque fuselage and 29-foot, 1.5-inch metal wings proved durable in battle, but the airplanes required highly skilled pilots to perform well. They also were very thirsty, holding 60-gallons of fuel, but burning 70 gallons-per-hour at top speed (304 mph). The manually operated main gears work through a series of drums, pulleys and cables and, according to Morss, require 45 turns to raise or lower. "


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p1ngu666
04-19-2004, 08:59 AM
ah thanks http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
if i can motivate myself ill do a nakid rata http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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F19_Orheim
04-19-2004, 09:13 AM
Hmm let's call it Ishak (little donkey) instead, much nicer for a great plane http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.... I think Rata (rat) was what it was called during Spanish Civil War. I have heard other nicks as well: Mosca (fly) and Yastrebok (eagle). Anyone know more about these?


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p1ngu666
04-19-2004, 10:26 AM
heard of fly too http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
but not eagle..
it was called rata/fly because of way it was in the sky, like a rat or a fly http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
and donkey because it was a workhorse?

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scootertgm
04-19-2004, 10:28 AM
I read a short bio from a I-16 pilot, he said the pilots also carried a pair of wire cutters. In case of emergency, they could cut the rope and the gear would just fall down and they'd rock the plane back and forth to lock the gear.

p1ngu666
04-19-2004, 10:57 AM
i read that too
wish we could have that http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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p1ngu666
04-19-2004, 12:45 PM
any ideas what the control surfaces are made of?http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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p1ngu666
04-19-2004, 01:24 PM
the reason...
ivan im still in cuba http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif!
http://www.pingu666.modded.me.uk/crapplanes/1i6.jpg

http://www.pingu666.modded.me.uk/crapplanes/3i16.jpg

http://www.pingu666.modded.me.uk/crapplanes/4i16.jpg
im now making adustments http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
where there is paint will go wood http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
ill also do a all metal one too i thinkhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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p1ngu666
04-19-2004, 03:11 PM
and here is its comrade http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
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One13
04-19-2004, 04:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by p1ngu666:
im wondering what all those levers and what not are for in the cockpit. not from trim...

and where the wings made out of metal?
need to know for a skin http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
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Fuselage was wood monocoque with balelite-ply skin.
Wings had chrome-molybdenum alloy spars with duraluminium sheet skin oninner wing panels and leading edge. All other panels aft of foward spar were fabric covered.
All control surfaces and the tail were of alloy steel tube constuction with fabric covering.

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p1ngu666
04-19-2004, 05:10 PM
http://www.pingu666.modded.me.uk/crapplanes/i16nakid.jpg
leadspitter found me that pic http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

how should i know where fabric starts on wings? other places have said only covered in metal..
and damn that wood is ugly

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clint-ruin
04-19-2004, 05:24 PM
That's some beautiful work there pingu.

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p1ngu666
04-19-2004, 05:46 PM
thanks http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
the base i16 is on il2skins, along with a matching tb3, and its in green camo aswellhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
i have some night time ones to finish off, and i want todo a sea one aswell
jutcsa's template really makes hte i16 a beaufiful plane http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
forgot who did the tb3 one im using, but thats good toohttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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One13
04-19-2004, 07:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by p1ngu666:
how should i know where fabric starts on wings? other places have said only covered in metal..
and damn that wood is ugly

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I am not sure exactly but if you look at a skin of an I-16 the smooth areas are metal (so up to half way back from the leading edge on the top surface) & the areas with lots of lines at right-angles to the leading edge are fabric covered.
Don't think I have explained myself very clearly. I will try to post a picture of where I think the fabric covered areas are.
No doubt there are more knowledgable people out there who can show it more accuratly.
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p1ngu666
04-19-2004, 07:14 PM
ah right, woulda thought thered be a panel line but ok http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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IV|JG51Flatspin
04-19-2004, 07:44 PM
That is a fine skin p1ngu666! The rats are a nice touch! lol I can almost see a kicking donkey there too! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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p1ngu666
04-19-2004, 08:49 PM
thanks http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
if u or anyone finds a donkey or a fly ill do a version with that on http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
well, 2 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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LEXX_Luthor
04-19-2004, 11:58 PM
*bump* http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

nice skins

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p1ngu666
04-20-2004, 11:20 AM
just to let u guys know, ive worked some more on tb3, hopefully thatll be pretty much done http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.
putting together a b25 template atm http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/10.gif
and i dont have beta, i just aquired void http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

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Prof.Wizard
04-20-2004, 11:56 AM
Is there a way I can fly a I16 with another pilot flying the TB3 in multiplayer?

Sorry if it has been said, I've not seen. Something with the "Attach/Detach" command right?

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p1ngu666
04-20-2004, 02:41 PM
yep u can, infact u HAVE to have a human tb3 pilot, ai =ksplode.
this spb thing really makes coop mode shine http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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WUAF_Badsight
04-20-2004, 05:33 PM
P1ngu666 that TB3 & I-16 combo pics you posted look great !


& that pic of Leadsplitters ....... is that a standard i-16 ....... looks kinda different , espech around the cowl

p1ngu666
04-20-2004, 05:42 PM
thanks http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. i think the tb3 is pretty much finished now http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
the i16 needs lots more work, im gonna email the museum/restorer to see if they have any more pics/info they can give me http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
plus theres mapping issues on the skin aswell http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
ill find like for u badsight http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Prof.Wizard
04-20-2004, 06:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by p1ngu666:
yep u can, infact u HAVE to have a human tb3 pilot, ai =ksplode.
this spb thing really makes coop mode shine http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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So in theory even 3 players might cooperate to fly the bomber-fighters. That would be awesome to see released. I hope to see videos (tracks) soon.

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p1ngu666
04-20-2004, 07:52 PM
ive done 3 pilots in 3 planes often on HL http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
theres a guy called OG_express that has some very cool spb missions http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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p1ngu666
04-20-2004, 07:56 PM
just fired a email off to the museum in NZ for more info, hope i get some http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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SeaFireLIV
04-20-2004, 07:57 PM
Very nice work, Pingu. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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ednew
04-20-2004, 08:31 PM
True BEAUTY, may I ask the meaning of the shooting star and the rats combo?

p1ngu666
04-21-2004, 06:33 AM
the shooting star is the bomber, and the rats the 2 i16s, they where nicknamed "rata" by the germans in spanish civil war http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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p1ngu666
04-22-2004, 07:10 AM
a lil bump http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
http://www.uploadit.org/pingu666/tb3one.jpg

http://www.uploadit.org/pingu666/tb3two.jpg

and yes it flew... damage from a go229 piloted by myself btw http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
not workin on these skins atm, working on something with clipped wings, and heavier than some bombers atm.
being a pain too http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/51.gif

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Red_Storm
04-22-2004, 09:22 AM
What's the Dutch 1st JaVa squadron marking "Zet 'm op witte muizen!" doing on that I-16 and TB-3? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

p1ngu666
04-22-2004, 09:35 AM
yes i know http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
having fun i belive http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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Caek
05-03-2004, 07:27 AM
I want to bump this to see the status on this. I can't wait for this plane http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

LEXX_Luthor
05-03-2004, 10:18 AM
Kinda neat....

http://vvs.hobbyvista.com/ModelArticles/Sekularac/TB3/zveno/tb3-zveno.html

p1ngu666
05-03-2004, 11:10 AM
i will restart work on this later today i hope
i had some skins i hadto get done for someone
http://www.uploadit.org/pingu666/donald1.jpg
i dont wanna say much about why i hadto do that so quick, but was important to me he saw them before he go away.
there is same for dora and A series http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

i think the tb3 part is near done, but i still dont know about parts of the i16 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif. seems it was fabric cover over/wood and metal in places.
expect several versions http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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p1ngu666
05-03-2004, 11:11 AM
nice link luther http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
ps check paintschemes forum http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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p1ngu666
05-04-2004, 08:58 AM
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http://www.uploadit.org/pingu666/nightrata1.jpg

http://www.uploadit.org/pingu666/nightrata2.jpg

http://www.uploadit.org/pingu666/nightrata3.jpg

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p1ngu666
05-04-2004, 02:32 PM
http://www.uploadit.org/pingu666/nakkidrata1.jpg

http://www.uploadit.org/pingu666/nakkidrata2.jpg

http://www.uploadit.org/pingu666/nakkidrata3.jpg

feeling increadibly tired http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif and driving test for me tomoz too http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

the all black scheme is often used on night fighters, (mossie,blackwidow,navy ones) dunno why not used on bombers.

oh tell me what u think of the canvas, its off a nakkid rata template, just filled in bits http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
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WUAF_Badsight
05-04-2004, 05:05 PM
AWWWWW MAAAAAN

PLZZZZZZ upload them P1ngue

very cool

p1ngu666
05-05-2004, 05:04 AM
when there finished http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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