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XyZspineZyX
08-31-2003, 10:22 AM
The A-6 version was the first to carry 4 MG 151/20 cannons, and it was used by fighter units in the East from the fall of 1943 into the early months of 1944. Nearly 600 of them were built, so it would fill the historical gap between the A-5 and A-8 models. How about it, Oleg? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-31-2003, 10:22 AM
The A-6 version was the first to carry 4 MG 151/20 cannons, and it was used by fighter units in the East from the fall of 1943 into the early months of 1944. Nearly 600 of them were built, so it would fill the historical gap between the A-5 and A-8 models. How about it, Oleg? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-31-2003, 10:31 AM
yeah and what about the stuka D5 with nearly 1100 of them built and that serve especially on estearn front.

the stuka D5 is a D3 but little bit bigger(wings...)and with 2 20mm gun on wings it will be a great add for Lw stuka

because of new drop bomb system you can only make one pass with 20mm you can straff etc.....



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XyZspineZyX
08-31-2003, 10:33 AM
I'm all for it!/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif I wish for more Langnasen's aswell, such as the D-11. D-12 and D-13! The Ta 152H will be be put to good use at higher alts, but why not spice it up a little bit. It'll be fun batteling for the high grounds when the P-51 is released!/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-31-2003, 10:59 AM
And Fw190A2 or A3 in 1941 planeset?

XyZspineZyX
08-31-2003, 01:30 PM
The A-3 differs from the A-4 only in a different radio equipment.
The A-2 was only used by JG 2 and JG 26 on the Channel front.

But the Stuka D-5 would be nice.
That is a real "Stukovik", with some firepower
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XyZspineZyX
08-31-2003, 03:20 PM
And was not the D-5 used for the G-2(?)?


theRealAntEater wrote:
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- But the Stuka D-5 would be nice.
- That is a real "Stukovik", with some firepower
-

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XyZspineZyX
08-31-2003, 03:22 PM
Yes, the G-1 we have in game (I think there were only about 20 of them) were converted "Short wing" D-3s
The more common G-2 was converted from "long wing" D-5s
The same goes for the night bomber versions, D-7 was a converted D-3, D-8 was a converted D-5...

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XyZspineZyX
08-31-2003, 05:49 PM
I'm all for a 190A-1 or A-2 for '41 servers since we have a Weatern map on the way. It would be pretty tough to beat in 1941.

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XyZspineZyX
08-31-2003, 05:57 PM
kyrule2 wrote:
- I'm all for a 190A-1 or A-2 for '41 servers since we
- have a Weatern map on the way. It would be pretty
- tough to beat in 1941.
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-

Would need an option for 'real engine reliability'.

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XyZspineZyX
08-31-2003, 06:02 PM
Milo, I'll just carry a fire extinguisher with me. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

If engine reliability was modelled the 262 would be in worse shape than it is now, and the Typhoon would be in trouble (if we had one in the making). Forget about the He-177. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-31-2003, 10:19 PM
The A6 would be nice but there are other things that the Fw's need first, like some more bomb loadouts for the late models. The Ju-87D5 is also much needed. Those IL2's run around like they own the place. Of course the Hs-129B would help solve that problem /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif .

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XyZspineZyX
08-31-2003, 11:04 PM
Forget the 190A-6, it's kinda close to the A-5 '43, and the A-8 is '44, so why bother?

The 190A-2 Late would be nice. The book infront of me says it had 2x MG-17 in the cowling, 2x MG-FF/M inboard, and on later models a pair of MG-17 in the outer wings.

XyZspineZyX
08-31-2003, 11:27 PM
Maj_Death wrote:
- The A6 would be nice but there are other things that
- the Fw's need first, like some more bomb loadouts
- for the late models. The Ju-87D5 is also much
- needed. Those IL2's run around like they own the
- place. Of course the Hs-129B would help solve that
- problem

Yes, I agree with him and other players' request about A6 and D5. Even, I strong agree with him how bad we need to have Hs-129B to be flyable. Also I would like to have some addition new kinds of bombs like AB24t with cluster bombs and some special bombs for Stuka.

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XyZspineZyX
09-01-2003, 01:46 AM
totaly wrong.

the first Fw had 2 MG17 in cowling, 2 MG17 in Wingroots and 2 MG-FF in outer wings - so for the A1 and early A2 , most A2 had the standart 2 MG151/20 in the roots

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XyZspineZyX
09-01-2003, 02:24 AM
JG53Frankyboy wrote:
- totaly wrong.
-
- the first Fw had 2 MG17 in cowling, 2 MG17 in
- Wingroots and 2 MG-FF in outer wings - so for the A1
- and early A2 , most A2 had the standart 2 MG151/20
- in the roots

OK, i'm not sure what to belive. The 2xMG-FF inboard, and 4x MG-17 nose/outer combo would be an intersting change from the big battery of heavy connons.

But if thats correct data you have then they should use that.

Why do some websites/books list the 190A-4 as haveing MW-50?

XyZspineZyX
09-01-2003, 03:39 AM
- JG53Frankyboy wrote:
-- totaly wrong.
--
-- the first Fw had 2 MG17 in cowling, 2 MG17 in
-- Wingroots and 2 MG-FF in outer wings - so for the A1
-- and early A2 , most A2 had the standart 2 MG151/20
-- in the roots.

Correct.


VOL_Jon wrote:

- OK, i'm not sure what to belive. The 2xMG-FF
- inboard, and 4x MG-17 nose/outer combo would be an
- intersting change from the big battery of heavy
- connons.

There were two MG-17's above the cowl and 2 in wing roots on the 190A-1, with the MG-FF's in the outer-wings. The MG-FF's were never in wing roots. The wing root MG-17's were replaced by a pair of MG-151'20's in the 190A-2.



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XyZspineZyX
09-01-2003, 03:44 AM
oh, i see.

Thanks for clearing that up guys.

Now what about MW-50 on 190A-4's?

XyZspineZyX
09-01-2003, 04:15 AM
VOL_Jon wrote:
- oh, i see.
-
- Thanks for clearing that up guys.
-
- Now what about MW-50 on 190A-4's?

That is a good question. All over the internet and in some books that I have it says the 190A-4 and later models used the MW-50 boost in some aircraft. Yet other sources say the boost was not used until much later. I know the GM-1 nitrous system was used much later due to difficulties in early testing, but it seems there is alot of conflicting information as to when the 190 started using the MW-50 boost in production aircraft.

From what I have read my guess would be that the MW-50 system was used/tested on some A-4's and A-5's but not in significant numbers. And that it did not see implementation on a regular basis until later models.

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XyZspineZyX
09-01-2003, 09:06 AM
hi,
here a link to a restoration projekt:

http://www.triplane.net/restoration_intro.htm


the FW190-A6 Serie(+ GM1 injekt system) could be interest only to special scenario since 1944 as a destroyer against bomber pulks..with MK 103 + WGr.21 rockets

XyZspineZyX
09-01-2003, 07:16 PM
Thanks for the link Starfighter.

Cheers,

Do 217P

XyZspineZyX
11-24-2003, 12:08 PM
Bump /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
11-24-2003, 02:03 PM
kyrule2 wrote:
- VOL_Jon wrote:
-- oh, i see.
--
-- Thanks for clearing that up guys.
--
-- Now what about MW-50 on 190A-4's?

was not in series built, only for testing. But there are some docus about that

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XyZspineZyX
11-24-2003, 03:03 PM
We are getting the Stuka with the 20mm cannons. Was on one of the dev updates.

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XyZspineZyX
11-24-2003, 08:47 PM
Yup, Stuka D-5 is already in for add-on.

I've been trying to find someone willing to make the minor changes necessary for the A-6 at netwings.org, but no one seems interested.

A-6 was an important mark of the 190 and was widely used on both fronts. Some experten considered it the best of the Antons.

In fact, many of the "experten" skins in the game for the A-5 are actually taken from schemes used on A-6s.

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XyZspineZyX
11-25-2003, 06:47 AM
fw190D10 with the 108mk wood rock thank you

XyZspineZyX
11-25-2003, 01:58 PM
The D-10 remained as a sketch on a paper and was never built because the RLM saw no reason to produce it. I think another "longnose" would be a better addition than another BMW powered A version. Although I'm all for more implementing more Wurgers into this amazing sim!/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Btw, I'd like to see an option to remove the ETC 501 bombrack. It could be removed in RL, and it WAS removed in RL!

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XyZspineZyX
11-25-2003, 02:23 PM
Well, the A-6 would make the finnish campaign almost perfect since it is the last important german plane missing there. (We had the Gefechtsverband Kuhlmey supporting here.)