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altamont
02-06-2004, 03:11 AM
i´ve noticed one thing about the zero ki84. its possible to fly without overheating the engine by pushing the boost on and power to 95%. no overheating and good performance. i´ve used this with great results in combat, especially on hyperlobby! is this a bug or reality. the engine screams, but no overheating...

altamont
02-06-2004, 03:11 AM
i´ve noticed one thing about the zero ki84. its possible to fly without overheating the engine by pushing the boost on and power to 95%. no overheating and good performance. i´ve used this with great results in combat, especially on hyperlobby! is this a bug or reality. the engine screams, but no overheating...

WUAF_Badsight
02-06-2004, 04:29 AM
lots & lots of planes dont overheat at 95% power

like just about all ?

overheat is related to RPM as much as throttle position

A.K.Davis
02-06-2004, 11:08 AM
1. What the hell is the "zero Ki-84"? Are you saying "the zero and the ki-84"? Damn lazy typers.

2. Not sure how the boost system works on the Zero, but the Ki-84 has water-methanol injection and, as on 109s, it does not actually engage until you push the throttle past 100%, even though it is turned on.

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XyZspineZyX
02-06-2004, 12:01 PM
And the funny thing is, the Ki-84's engine was notoriously hard to operate, and would blow really quickly if you screwed it up. Coupled with the much lower pilot quality of Japanese pilots late in the war, this helped create the impression that the Frank was a real problem child.

The Zero's engine, by comparison, was much simpler.

The Japanese planes just aren't modelled very well in FB.

WUAF_Badsight
02-06-2004, 01:51 PM
what are you talking about now stigler ?

no planes in FB have been moddeled with historical operating troubles

the Mk108 never jams in a DF

the LA's dont fog up

ect ect

posting crap like that is just stupid

XyZspineZyX
02-06-2004, 01:55 PM
Well, that was over and above the basic FM observation that the Zero FM in FB is crap.

Compare it to the FM in Targetware, which is spot on, and produces the historical results when matched up vs. say, a P-40.

Then, you'll see what I mean.

Wily_Wombat
02-06-2004, 03:33 PM
Good info,

but isn't the Ki-84 called, among other things, the "Frank", not a Zero?

WW

XyZspineZyX
02-06-2004, 03:50 PM
Yes, we know that. The author combined both in his title, so we end up talking about both.

Awake74
02-07-2004, 10:55 AM
From past year end, I drived these planes.
Zero and Ki84 are easily engine overheated and engine burned.
(especially if used zero's 1st or 2nd WEP)
Did you try at network combat fight?
Maybe you can understand A.K.Davis is right.

P.S
I guess, Ki84 auto 2nd WEP(attit.5700m above, 1600 or 1700PH Ok) not affected in FB.

Chuck_Older
02-07-2004, 11:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WUAF_Badsight:
what are you talking about now stigler ?

no planes in FB have been moddeled with historical operating troubles

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well I have to interject here, YES, the planes in FB do have historical operating troubles.

If you mean to say "operating failures" from chance, poor repair or bad maintenance, I agree 100%.

But a short list of historical operating troubles in FB would contain:

1) several engines like the Polikarpov's and the Hawker's having carburetor trouble in negative G
2) ability to choose improper supercharger stage during operation
3) Me 262's well known touchy engines leading to fires or flame out

I'm pretty sure you meant mechanical trouble for no reason at all, but there are some historical bugs modelled into FB. I just think we're so familiar with them we forget they were actually problems in real life.

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p1ngu666
02-07-2004, 05:33 PM
press r till u get open radiator
problem sorted.

SkyChimp
02-07-2004, 05:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by A.K.Davis:

2. Not sure how the boost system works on the Zero,
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It was a simple single stage/two-speed supercharger. No water injection.

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TheGozr
02-08-2004, 01:39 AM
SHuushhh! if it's a bug don't tell oleg http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Recon_609IAP
02-08-2004, 03:16 PM
engine malfunctions used to be modelled.

but the arcadish folks couldn't handle it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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