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Cossack_UA
03-22-2004, 12:37 PM
Greetings,

I'm going to visit USAF Museum this weekend. I'm there for only one day and it is pretty big museum. If you've been there before, can you give me some tips: what do they have interesting and what should i see first.

Cossack_UA
03-22-2004, 12:37 PM
Greetings,

I'm going to visit USAF Museum this weekend. I'm there for only one day and it is pretty big museum. If you've been there before, can you give me some tips: what do they have interesting and what should i see first.

DuxCorvan
03-22-2004, 12:47 PM
IMHO you should see the planes and helicopters first. And then, the aircraft. There are also some nice flying machines there.

Ignore the balloons. They are stupid gas balls. (This make me wonder if there are any balloons in the USAF).

Then you can look any gorgeous stewardess or visiting girl around. Try to look like a veteran pilot with a good joystick. That works for some people -I don't need it, I'm Spanish.

This time, don't ignore the balloons.

And take pics. Even if it's forbidden. And share them with us. Photos of the planes. And photos of the girls. Yes.

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03-22-2004, 01:05 PM
Beat me to it Dux http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

but the part about pictures (even if it's not allowed) is excellent advice. Just tell them it's for educational purposes and look important...they shouldn't question you after that.



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Phoenix1911
03-22-2004, 01:08 PM
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I've heard they have a nice collection of plains there as well... Not as big as the plane collection, but plains are cool too...

FYI: You all just dropped 30 IQ points reading this thread!

03-22-2004, 01:20 PM
When I was there, pics are OK, cause I took over 100 pics.

First, if you are there for only one day, forget about trying to see it all. Youwill lose out. Here are my tips:

Check out the WWI stuff as well as the WWII.

Hit the outside planes as well, because there is a JU52 and the end of the runway that you will miss if you don't walk all the way down the runway.

Go into the 8th Air Force HQ building outside. It is really cool, lots of info.

Go to the area with the new planes and sit in the F-4 cockpit AND the F-16 cockpit.

I thought it was a myth, but I found it to be true. If you take a picture of the F-117 with one of those auto ficos cameras, it may not focus on the jet. I thought it was bull****, but 5 of us had the exact same result: Blur.

Really hit the areas about the Doolittle Raid. Great insight to what they went through.

Look up alot. There is stuff in the rafters you will miss, like the Storch that both Hartmann and Yeager flew.

Go through the B-29. Great display.

See the jets. DO NOT pass up the jets.

You will be under the B-36's wings mosr of the time and not know it, if it is still inside.

Don't hit the movie, it's not worth the time you could be looking at the displays.

Its the best, with the Navy's Aviation museum and the Smithonian running a close second.

Go outside and read the benchs.

JG7_Rall
03-22-2004, 01:23 PM
Stupid question: where exactly is the USAF museum? sounds like a good summer trip to me.

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Cossack_UA
03-22-2004, 01:28 PM
hey Hedus,

Your are talking abouth a musium in DC. I'm going to the one in Dayton, OH.

I have to go to the one in DC! Can't pass the chance to sit in F-16 cockpithttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

SE_Aetos
03-22-2004, 02:04 PM
I use to live right down the road from the place. Not anymore, but still live in Dayton.

Here is a link, but i am sure you have found it by now.
http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/index.htm

Here is a limited tour:
http://afmuseumimax.com/tour/tour.html
They just added a third hanger, so I don't know how up to date this is...

I would start with the early years, and work your way up. The early years is by far the most detailed part of the museum with lots of history written out on the walls and stuff. When you get to the modern hanger, all it is a bunch of planes sitting in a hanger. (Big Hanger However!)

You should be able to cover the whole place without much of a problem unless you take too much time reading and stuff. The farther you go the less there is to read.

One thing you need to work around. If you want to see the Presidential and Research & Development/Flight Test Hangars you need to sign up for them. Those hangers are on the Base itself and they will have to bus you in. (Just stay away from Hanger 15) So sign up for that when you get there! They only lets so many people do it.

They also have a I-MAX there, but it is kinda expensive, (for a half hour movie) but since the whole museum is free, so its not too bad. Depending on what is playing I would say go for it if you have never been in one. Plus expensive food upstairs.

In short, nock off each hanger at a time. Start With the early years, and just follow the progression of planes.

Hope this is of some help...

SE_Aetos

WalterNowi
03-22-2004, 02:29 PM
Be sure to bring a camera with a powerful flashlight. It is pretty dark in there.

Nowi

BfHeFwMe
03-22-2004, 05:10 PM
Yeah, get there a day early, you really need two days. Check out the annex across the line, but you probably won't have the time. If your not as interested in WWI and Space, blow by those exibits, they'll eat up your time allowance with the props and jets.

Be sure to hit the book store about mid-day if your into that, very fine collection of aviation stuff, and reasonable prices. You won't get standing room in it the last 45 minutes. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Zeus-cat
03-22-2004, 05:37 PM
The USAF museum is part of Wright-Patterson Air Force Base near Dayton, Ohio. I live about 20 minutes from the museum.

The museum is laid out chronologically. They have rearranged stuff since I was there last due to the opeing of the third hangar. I beleive Hangar 1 is Wright Brothers and WW I, Hangar 2 is WW II and Hangar 3 is modern flight.

Try to walk through each hangar even if the particular era doesn't interst you. You can walk through a hangar in 15-20 minutes a slow pace. Something just might catch you eye. For instance, they have the gondola from the high altitude balloon that Joe Kittinger (I think he was the guy) that set the worlds record for highest and longest free fall. He jumped out of the gondola at around 108,000 feet! He fell a long, long time before he opened his parachute. They also have a capsule from both the Apollo and Gemini space missions. Unbelievably small for 2 and 3 people. As stated before, they have a B-29 fuselage you can go into.

They used to let friends of the museum go into some of the planes once a year. My wife helps out the museum as part of her job at the base. I got to sit inside a 109, A-10 and walk all around the cockpit of the B-36 and move all around the B-17 and the B-29 Bokscar. Bokscar is the plane that dropped the second atomic bomb on Japan. I looked through the bombsite and played with the knobs. I got a very eerie feeling doing that. They don't let visitors in any of the planes anymore except for the partial B-29 fuselage.

They recently put a B-2 on display.

Take the shuttle bus over to the annex and see the presidential aircraft too if you can. Most women like this part if they are not into war planes. Skip the movies unless you go to one of the after hours shows.

Flash pictures are allowed. The museum is not lit well for photography!

And best of all, the museum is free!

Zeus-cat

03-22-2004, 05:48 PM
No, cossack, I am talking about the USAF museum in Dayton. We had our 2001 Warbirds convention there, and I toured it for 3 days. Still isn't enough time. Go outside and see all the big air transports, too. The Ju52 is out at the end.

Cossack_UA
03-22-2004, 07:11 PM
Thanks guys for info http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

Steaky_361st
03-22-2004, 07:34 PM
lol i just went there this summer...spent about 5 hours surfing around in the World War II hangar by itself....

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ElAurens
03-22-2004, 09:49 PM
I have been a member for some time. By far the best money ever spent by the US goverment...

If you can work it out, one friday a month they give tours of the restoration shops. Call in advance to make a reservation...

Ever seen a Spad with the fabric off? Very cool. Or perhaps an AVRO CF 100 in polished aluminum, with the wings waiting to be installed?

The new cold war hangar is open now, and the B2 was moved in during December...

Shall I tempt you more?

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Rajvosa
03-23-2004, 01:23 AM
Taking pictures shouldn't be a problem in most museums. But don't tpuch the aircraft! I learned that the hard way when I almost got kicked out of Duxford, http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

I touched the propeller on the Typhoon, and out of nowhere a guard materielised next to me, ranting about not touching the aircraft since they were covered with some mystic compound to keep the moisture away. 5 minutes later I was touching the P-51 (boy, I just had to connect on a physical level with that beauty http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif) and there's the same guard again, staring at me. I swallowed hard and just walked away, firmly staring at the floor. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/51.gif

But it was worth it!

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