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crazyivan1970
02-17-2004, 05:04 PM
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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

[This message was edited by crazyivan1970 on Wed February 18 2004 at 09:09 AM.]

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02-17-2004, 05:04 PM
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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

[This message was edited by crazyivan1970 on Wed February 18 2004 at 09:09 AM.]

crazyivan1970
02-17-2004, 05:05 PM
I am not going to translate entire article, just some things from it. Whole story in russian: http://aces.boom.ru/all/fedorov.htm

Part 1


"Fedorov Ivan Efgrafovich.



Three times military pilot Ivan Fedorov was about to be nominated to highest military award: HSU. He flew on 297 types of planes starting from bi-plane "Avro" and finishing with jet - LA-176. He took a part in every military conflict of 30s - 50s, his individual record is 49 destroyed planes confirmed and 47 in group. Some episodes of his extraordinary life are rather unblelievable and border with science fiction. Ivan Fedorov recived awards for his heroism and skills from not only Dolores Ibarruri and Stalin... but , even that it sounds strange... from Hitler too.

Ivan Fedorov was born in Kharkov on February 23rd 1914 in the blue color family. Original last name of Ivan was Denisov. When his father , hero of Civil War, soldier of First Cavalery Army came back from the war to Lugansk, he re-registered his son on grand fathers name, just in case. Because while he was away, 8 year old Ivan set on fire house of local reach man, who was beating Ivan up on regular bases. Fire completely destroyed everything.

In 1932 Ivan was recruited by Red Army and. Right after that he started his military service in one of the regiments.

Piloting skill of Fedorov were extraordinary, coordination was unbelievable. His commander Mezhtuzov set Ivan as an example to other not once. In the camps near Zhitomir got to know a fighter I-16 and at the age of 19 became an escadrilia (12 planes) commander, teaching new pilots and constantly improving himself.

In 1937, right after "Red Square" airshow all participants were invited to Kremlin. Fedorov was one of them, already famous for his skills and character. 12 of most brave pilots started convincing soviet command to sent them to Spain and Ivan was chosen as their representative. Pretty soon all of them ended up in Spain.

June 17th of 1937 will be remembered by Fedorov forever, then he shot down his first plane. 5 bombers under cover of two messershmids were attacking port Los-Arcasarne, signal to take off was giving and Ivan without thinking twice jumped into closest to him I-16 that was just filled up with fuel and ammo. He started egine and took off without even noticing that parachute was forgotten. . On the approach Ivan looked around, figured out manuever and flew right into formation making sharp turns tighen them up, finally right moment came and he managed to get on the tail of Messershmidt bringing him down with long burst. That`s how first time he experianced joy of victory.

Spanish Campaign was completed by Fedorov successfully. In archive document #8803 stated that during a year in of Spanish war he completed 286 missions 36 of them actual engagements in which he showed incredible skills and personally destroyed 11 enemy planes and 13 in group...that includes 2 Me109, new german fighter plane which was pronounced by german command as untouchable. Twice he rammed opponents but there are no documentation on that (July18th and August 21st, 1937). Once he managed to force enemy Fiat to land on their (Soviet) base after 20 minutes long fight.

For his bravery and skills with highest award of Spain by commander of aviation of Spain Ignaso Idalgo de Sisneros (sorry for possible wrong spelling), only 5 soviets received this type of award, one of them "colonel Malino" future Marshall of Soviet Union and minister of defence Malinovskiy.

Soviet government awarded him with two Red Banners and also recommended for HSU award, but for whatever reason HSU did not happened.

As a memory of those flaming years he keeps a nick name "Deable Roho" - "Red Evil" given to him by his spanish friends, name Juan in the pasport and of course kiss of Ibarrurie, record player - phonograph and pistol "Astra" - presents from her.

After coming back from Spain Fedorov finished courses of regiment commanders in Lipetzk in 1939 and then he had two more "business trips" outside of the country. First over Blagovechensk to China where he acheived 2 more victories and next trip to Halkin-Gole where he added 2 more planes destroed. That`s where some heavy fighting took place. "I can vouch that japaneese fighter pilots were very tough opponents. They flew on their pretty much up to date fighters I-96 and showed themselfs as fearless and skillfull pilots. "

Next theater of military operations was Finnish war of 1939-1940 there he destroyed 4 more enemy planes..

At the end of 1940, beginning of 1941 according to Soviet-German pact group of german pilots spent 3 months in USSR studing soviet fighter I-16 and then soviet pilots went to Berlin and on June 14th exchanged their experiances on new german fighter planes.

On combined trials Fedorov especially wanted to show enemy (He was sure that Hitler is preparing invasion on USSR) kind of pilots that germans will have to face.

German pilots were trying to keep their emotions down while they were observeing piloting capabilities of soviets when they got the chance to try german machines in the air. For example, Fedorov managed to pull near 100 figures of aerobatics in He-100 which shocked the audience. Especially slow motion barrel roll had a great effect on them. Only few pilots of LW could do something like that.

Hitler, who saw everything that Fedorov did in the air with his own eyes was stunned. He asked Goering if best german aces are capable of doing it, on which Goerning replied, without enthusiazm...that no, they cant.

On June 18th 1941 on the banquet for soviet pilots in Hitler`s residence, Hitler awarded Fedorov with one of the highest award of LW, Iron Cross with Oak leafs 1st degree . Also each pilot received 3 golden coins, 10,000 deutche marks each. Back then on thise kind of money you could buy few "Mercedes". One fifth day after their return home Great Patriotic has begun."

More to come.

************* HERE`S PART 2***************

Part II.


"Right after beginning of GPW Ivan wrote a letter to commander of VVS asking him to be on front lines, but instead Fedorov was assigned to Factory #21 in Gorkiy as a test pilot of the new plane: Lagg-3. He was testing those planes by his heart was out on the front lines. In July of 1942 after copleting all trial test in the trial area Fedorov flies from Gorkiy to Kalinin.

After long search for airbase Migalov he finally found it and celebrated his find with long series of aerobatic on landing approach - one of those "Here i come" type of things. A moment later Commander of 3rd Army General Gromov arrived to his plane. While they were talking german bomber HE-111 came from nowhere and flew over airbase. Fedorov`s eyes lighted on fire "Can i have your permision comrade Commander to show that german his new home base?"

It was short encounter, in the front of entire division Ivan took off, cought up with HE-111 and engaged it on the altitude of 1500m. Cannon fire was so accurate that one of the wings got cut off.
Germans left plane on the low altitude and there was no time for their parachutes to open. After Ivan landed, Gromov shook his hand and said " Congradulations major, let`s say that your front line practice has begun".

Day after day went by, fight after fight and `in the middle of 1942 General Novikov (right hand of minister of deffence) ordered to Fedorov in person his new task. Ivan had to form a new regiment of aces, assigned to third Army of Kaninski Front. Basically to make someting opposite to what germans had in that area. Germans had a group of 28 very experianced pilots that flew messershmidts and their planes were marked with play cards, harts, spades...etc..

And one day Ivan was on patrol of front lines with his wingman Andrey Borovih on Yak-7. In that flight they encountered a big group of Me-109G and feirce and short fight started. 5 minutes later Borovih shut down plane with with Qeen of spades on its side and Fedorov got Ace of hearts. Later on it turned out that Ace of hearts was a commander of that famous group of aces colonel Fon Berg who had 127 victories at that time.

Only during first two months in action Fedorov shot down 15 enemy planes and damaged 3. Later on, Commander of the 6th air-Corps colonel Zhilzov in January of 1944 signed a document for HSU award, specifically making and accent on the fact that for some reason Fedorov was never awarded for planes that he shot down. By that time Fedorov was division commander. But right after that Commander of 6th aircorps was changed and new commander General Erlikin all of a sudden found tons of small faults in Fedorov`s division and his style of command. He suggested that Fedorov should be sent on courses for division commanders for improving his tactical and operational knowledge ... and releaved Ivan Fedorov from the command. And of course, his HSU award vanished for the second time.

But Fedorov wasn`t upset, he ended up in his favorite atmosphere, he could fly more often and most important he could go on "free hunt". With support of General Gromov Ivan was given a position asistent of the commander of 269th guads division - commander colonel Dodonov and finished war there shooting down 96 enemy planes individually and in the group .

Ivan Fedorov not once rammed enemy planes and survived. Successfull taran happened on August 17th of 1944. Him and his wingman were in patrol of rail road when he spoted flight of 31 JU 87 with escort of 18 Me-109s. As he was preparing his attack his wingman got scared and dove down, leaving his leader.
"Look at my last work, i rather die then live as a coward" said Fedorov over the radio and plunged into bobmbers formation. From close distance he shot down 5 bombers and rammed one more... Document with full description of that fight was signed by cheif of headquaters of 6th fighter Aircorps colonel Zhilzov. Soviet pilot by miracle made it back to the base on heavily damaged and un-controlable aircraft.

Another interesting fact of his military career is his command over a group of "war criminals" - penal "batalion". There is nothing about pilots - war criminals in the history of GPW, not a word. That was idea of Stalin and none of the armies in the world implemented that. Fedorov had full control over this regiment and was granted rights to execute pilots for any kinds of resitense.

But he never used this right. His pilots shot down over 400 enemy planes and that does not include those that they destroyed on the ground. Some of the pilots had from 50 to 100 victories in the air (not official). Few month later Marshall Konev called Fedorov in and asked him to write a report about penal regiement and what do with the pilots. Later on 4 pilots were awarded with HSU and many others received medals. Pilots received back their ranks and some even moved up in ranks. Regiment was disband and people returned to their regiments.

Strange thing is, Fedorov received only 3 awards during the war. 2 GPW awards - 1st and 2nd degree and Alexander Nevskiy award for forming regiment of aces back in 1942. All the way at the end of the war he was also nominated for Red banner but for some reason never received it."



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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

[This message was edited by crazyivan1970 on Tue February 17 2004 at 04:17 PM.]

[This message was edited by crazyivan1970 on Wed February 18 2004 at 10:02 AM.]

Korolov
02-17-2004, 05:33 PM
Wow, this guy went through a LOT. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

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crazyivan1970
02-17-2004, 05:40 PM
There is alot more to it Koro, and just i thought i saw everything..quiet a shocker. Wait for part2 when i have time http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

jensenpark
02-17-2004, 06:04 PM
Thanks for this and previous translations!

You're a great member of this community!

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Korolov
02-17-2004, 07:41 PM
Bump!

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DONB3397
02-17-2004, 07:50 PM
Great read. Thanks for translating it. I just finished Wm. Yenne's book, "Aces" which includes a long chapter on Soviet flyers. Quite a lot of space devoted to Pokryshin and Kozhebub, a dozen others, including the great female aces. But, amazingly, Federov wasn't included.

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crazyivan1970
02-18-2004, 08:41 AM
bump for part2. Coming up soon

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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

JorBR
02-18-2004, 09:55 AM
Thanks once more Ivan.
I have one little help and one question.

"As a memory of those flaming years he keeps a nick name "Deable Roho" - "Red Evil" given to him by his spanish friends(...)"

I think it means Diablo Rojo - Red Devil http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

"Hitler awarded Fedorov with one of the highest award of LW, Iron Cross with Oak leafs 1st degree."

Does it means the Iron Cross First Class or the Knightâ´s Cross with Oak Leaves?

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crazyivan1970
02-18-2004, 10:05 AM
Part II.


"Right after beginning of GPW Ivan wrote a letter to commander of VVS asking him to be on front lines, but instead Fedorov was assigned to Factory #21 in Gorkiy as a test pilot of the new plane: Lagg-3. He was testing those planes by his heart was out on the front lines. In July of 1942 after copleting all trial test in the trial area Fedorov flies from Gorkiy to Kalinin.

After long search for airbase Migalov he finally found it and celebrated his find with long series of aerobatic on landing approach - one of those "Here i come" type of things. A moment later Commander of 3rd Army General Gromov arrived to his plane. While they were talking german bomber HE-111 came from nowhere and flew over airbase. Fedorov`s eyes lighted on fire "Can i have your permision comrade Commander to show that german his new home base?"

It was short encounter, in the front of entire division Ivan took off, cought up with HE-111 and engaged it on the altitude of 1500m. Cannon fire was so accurate that one of the wings got cut off.
Germans left plane on the low altitude and there was no time for their parachutes to open. After Ivan landed, Gromov shook his hand and said " Congradulations major, let`s say that your front line practice has begun".

Day after day went by, fight after fight and `in the middle of 1942 General Novikov (right hand of minister of deffence) ordered to Fedorov in person his new task. Ivan had to form a new regiment of aces, assigned to third Army of Kaninski Front. Basically to make someting opposite to what germans had in that area. Germans had a group of 28 very experianced pilots that flew messershmidts and their planes were marked with play cards, harts, spades...etc..

And one day Ivan was on patrol of front lines with his wingman Andrey Borovih on Yak-7. In that flight they encountered a big group of Me-109G and feirce and short fight started. 5 minutes later Borovih shut down plane with with Qeen of spades on its side and Fedorov got Ace of hearts. Later on it turned out that Ace of hearts was a commander of that famous group of aces colonel Fon Berg who had 127 victories at that time.

Only during first two months in action Fedorov shot down 15 enemy planes and damaged 3. Later on, Commander of the 6th air-Corps colonel Zhilzov in January of 1944 signed a document for HSU award, specifically making and accent on the fact that for some reason Fedorov was never awarded for planes that he shot down. By that time Fedorov was division commander. But right after that Commander of 6th aircorps was changed and new commander General Erlikin all of a sudden found tons of small faults in Fedorov`s division and his style of command. He suggested that Fedorov should be sent on courses for division commanders for improving his tactical and operational knowledge ... and releaved Ivan Fedorov from the command. And of course, his HSU award vanished for the second time.

But Fedorov wasn`t upset, he ended up in his favorite atmosphere, he could fly more often and most important he could go on "free hunt". With support of General Gromov Ivan was given a position asistent of the commander of 269th guads division - commander colonel Dodonov and finished war there shooting down 96 enemy planes individually and in the group .

Ivan Fedorov not once rammed enemy planes and survived. Successfull taran happened on August 17th of 1944. Him and his wingman were in patrol of rail road when he spoted flight of 31 JU 87 with escort of 18 Me-109s. As he was preparing his attack his wingman got scared and dove down, leaving his leader.
"Look at my last work, i rather die then live as a coward" said Fedorov over the radio and plunged into bobmbers formation. From close distance he shot down 5 bombers and rammed one more... Document with full description of that fight was signed by cheif of headquaters of 6th fighter Aircorps colonel Zhilzov. Soviet pilot by miracle made it back to the base on heavily damaged and un-controlable aircraft.

Another interesting fact of his military career is his command over a group of "war criminals" - penal "batalion". There is nothing about pilots - war criminals in the history of GPW, not a word. That was idea of Stalin and none of the armies in the world implemented that. Fedorov had full control over this regiment and was granted rights to execute pilots for any kinds of resitense.

But he never used this right. His pilots shot down over 400 enemy planes and that does not include those that they destroyed on the ground. Some of the pilots had from 50 to 100 victories in the air (not official). Few month later Marshall Konev called Fedorov in and asked him to write a report about penal regiement and what do with the pilots. Later on 4 pilots were awarded with HSU and many others received medals. Pilots received back their ranks and some even moved up in ranks. Regiment was disband and people returned to their regiments.

Strange thing is, Fedorov received only 3 awards during the war. 2 GPW awards - 1st and 2nd degree and Alexander Nevskiy award for forming regiment of aces back in 1942. All the way at the end of the war he was also nominated for Red banner but for some reason never received it."

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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

crazyivan1970
02-18-2004, 10:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JorBR:
Thanks once more Ivan.
I have one little help and one question.

"As a memory of those flaming years he keeps a nick name "Deable Roho" - "Red Evil" given to him by his spanish friends(...)"

I think it means Diablo Rojo - Red Devil http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hehe, hey man, translating straight up http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>

"Hitler awarded Fedorov with one of the highest award of LW, Iron Cross with Oak leafs 1st degree."

Does it means the Iron Cross First Class or the Knightâ´s Cross with Oak Leaves?

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It`s definitely Cross with Oak Leaves, but for some reason they said Iron...and first degree.. i would say Knightâ´s Cross with Oak Leaves more likely... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

JorBR
02-18-2004, 10:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JorBR:
Thanks once more Ivan.
I have one little help and one question.

"As a memory of those flaming years he keeps a nick name "Deable Roho" - "Red Evil" given to him by his spanish friends(...)"

I think it means Diablo Rojo - Red Devil http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hehe, hey man, translating straight up http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>

"Hitler awarded Fedorov with one of the highest award of LW, Iron Cross with Oak leafs 1st degree."

Does it means the Iron Cross First Class or the Knightâ´s Cross with Oak Leaves?

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It`s definitely Cross with Oak Leaves, but for some reason they said Iron...and first degree.. i would say Knightâ´s Cross with Oak Leaves more likely... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

V!
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<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No problem, spanish must be as difficult to a russian as russian to a spanish.

Knightâ´s Cross with Oak Leaves for a russian pilot? History never ceases to surprise me http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

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ElAurens
02-18-2004, 10:58 AM
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Great read Ivan...

thanks!!!!

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Cossack_UA
02-18-2004, 11:05 AM
Many many great Soviet pilots didn't get the due recognition. Heck, Pokrishkin himself had serious clashes with his commanders that jeoparized his career and awards.

georgeo76
02-18-2004, 11:16 AM
Good stuff Ivan!

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clint-ruin
02-18-2004, 11:16 AM
Thanks so much for posting these CrazyIvan :&gt;

I was wondering - do you know if your Il2 pilot diary translations made it over to the new board? Do you have a link to those by any chance? They were a great read too.

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taras_zh
02-18-2004, 11:19 AM
Greetings,

I think there is one more story about this pilot. I read it on one of the Russian web sites.

After WW2 he became a test pilot. During one of the test flights, on final approach he performed barrel roll. Later he explained that flaps on one side did not work therefore plane started dangerous banking. His decision was to finish roll to 360 deg. and close flaps, which is exactly what he did.

Sorry for my English,

Regards,

Taras

crazyivan1970
02-18-2004, 11:24 AM
clint, i am planning to finish translations of IL-2 pilot...about 20 more pages to go .. and they will be posted on our website (which is under contruction right now) so you will get a chance to read it again http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

taras, you absolutely right, i did not translate entire article, only WW2 related stuff.

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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

Cossack_UA
02-18-2004, 12:02 PM
I went through the list of Soviet aces on the site that crazyivan posted and found an interesting person.

Amet-Han Sultan, an ace with 30 personal victories and 19 group victories (mostly given by him to his wingmen).

Why does this person stand out from the list of Sovet aces? Because he is a crimian tatar, an ethnic group that got exiled to Siberia by Stalin.

Amet-Hun was considered an expert fighter against He-111. He-111, equiped with 4 MG proteckting the rear was a tough plane to down.

The article describes an interesting encounter of Amet-Hun with a german ace. It says that im March of 1944 a BF-109 passed by his airbase and threw out a message that invited the best pilot of a base to dogfight. German specified that he will not engage till Soviet pilot reaches 3000 meters hight. The commander ordered to prepair Amet-Hun's aircobra for the fight. After Amet-Hun reached 3000 meters, the fight began. After 15 minutes Amet-Hun downed BF-109. Amet-Hun died in 1971 during the test flight of a new engine.

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02-18-2004, 12:43 PM
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Korolov
02-18-2004, 06:00 PM
Bump for those who didn't get to see it.

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