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lotr-sam0711
04-06-2004, 08:51 AM
What If Atrus didn't destroy the red and blue books?? This would explain the story of Exile. And also in the trailer at the end you see a red and blue book!! Just an idea. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

"To dwell on the past is to die in the present" -Atrus (Riven)

"Taking only from the past only that which is good. Maybe in the process we can build a
better and brighter future." -Atrus (Exile)

Best Games Ever
1)Riven (Iv'e been playing 15+ hours and im still in the first age.)
2)Uru (The best graphics Iv'e seen.)
3)Exile ( I love the fact that the people aren't animated.)
4)KotOR (2003 Game of the year (what else needs to be said.).)
5)Jedi knight (Yes the first one.)
6)Jedi Outcast (The PUZZLES!!!)
7)Myst (Fun yet old)

lotr-sam0711
04-06-2004, 08:51 AM
What If Atrus didn't destroy the red and blue books?? This would explain the story of Exile. And also in the trailer at the end you see a red and blue book!! Just an idea. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

"To dwell on the past is to die in the present" -Atrus (Riven)

"Taking only from the past only that which is good. Maybe in the process we can build a
better and brighter future." -Atrus (Exile)

Best Games Ever
1)Riven (Iv'e been playing 15+ hours and im still in the first age.)
2)Uru (The best graphics Iv'e seen.)
3)Exile ( I love the fact that the people aren't animated.)
4)KotOR (2003 Game of the year (what else needs to be said.).)
5)Jedi knight (Yes the first one.)
6)Jedi Outcast (The PUZZLES!!!)
7)Myst (Fun yet old)

Cierdwyn
04-06-2004, 11:53 AM
I 'bout leaped out of my chair when I saw that clip, with both of those books in that container! How cool to revisit that storyline - having never really known what Atrus did with those books and now this. Sort of a repeat of poor Ti'Ana when she pled Veovis case to save him from death, and how that came back to haunt the entire D'ni society, it appears that Atrus inability to completely cut off his sons access to areas outside of their books will also come back to haunt him. I can hardly wait! And with a fall release it will be something to fill my time with once the daughter goes back to school.

For those of you who haven't seen the little teaser clip, I've posted the link below so have a look. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

http://www.mystrevelation.com/teaser/uk/video1.swf

Cierdwyn

[This message was edited by Cierdwyn on Tue April 06 2004 at 11:09 AM.]

Nebodin
04-06-2004, 03:49 PM
The game could easily be set before Myst was set, i.e., Atrus could have still destroyed the Red and Blue books at the end of Myst - its just that we are seeing these books well before they were destroyed. The trailer said it was a story about the two brothers, so it sounds like it is set before they were trapped or immediately afterwards - in any case it seems as though it is set around the time the brothers were reaking havoc.

I'm pretty sure Exile was set after Myst, it was after he had been able to return to D'ni. Saavedro sought revenge on Atrus for all the damage his sons had done to his world, i.e., the story of Exile still makes sense even if the books had been destroyed as Saavedro is seeking revenge on Atrus, not his sons.

[This message was edited by Nebodin on Tue April 06 2004 at 02:58 PM.]

Dillenger69
04-06-2004, 03:58 PM
Very true, the "revelation" could be Atrus finding out how bad the two boys really are.
The game could involve trapping them.

or

it could be some later date and the destruction of the books was just one of those things that "didn't really happen"

hard to say at this point.

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Cierdwyn
04-06-2004, 04:37 PM
I don't know ... those books looked like they were sealed up in some sort of containment device and locked in pretty tightly. Something that Atrus had been unable to do prior to "our" help in Myst, what with him trapped in his book. Plus, one of the websites that I was visiting today refered to the kidnapping of a young girl by her brothers, and the entering of the brothers twisted ages - presumably to rescue this poor child. This could explain Yeesha's "eccentric" nature a bit, though. It would make sense that they've somehow managed to get loose (it happened before - anyone else read Myst: The Book of Ti'Ana?) to wreak havoc once again. And I've not heard mention of there having been any other siblings prior to this.

You know, we're all gonna' be half nutty with all of the speculation, by the time that game hits the shelves. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

Cierdwyn

Khatie_
04-06-2004, 05:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>You know, we're all gonna' be half nutty with all of the speculation, by the time that game hits the shelves. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

Cierdwyn<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh oh... there goes the OTHER half then. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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Farlesis
04-06-2004, 05:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cierdwyn:

You know, we're all gonna' be half nutty with all of the speculation, by the time that game hits the shelves. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep lol http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif But it is great fun reading everyone's thoughts and ideas across the forums and how that sparks of more discussion. So yep by the time it comes out we shall all be driven mad with speculation http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Ahrotahn
04-06-2004, 05:46 PM
From what I saw in the clip I'd say that some girl in America or England found a linking book and dropped in on Atrus. (The clothing is distinctly un-Mystish) I think that you probably don't know which brother stole the girl, so you have to check the prison worlds in both books. Or maybe the brothers took her into one of Atrus' books and you have to figure out which one. The movement looks similar to Exile, which I happen to love. I'm really excited about this new game.

Ahrotahn

Cierdwyn
04-06-2004, 05:52 PM
LOL I'm about 3 quarters through the "nutty" door on a good day ...just takes news like this to push me a little farther through it. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Spent a good while prowling through the official site. Not bad ... for a start ... *cough* ... could use a few more screen shots ... *ahem*. &lt;I know, UbiSoft, I know ... it's just NEVER enough for us Myst fans, is it?! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif &gt; Actually it's a great site, that interactive screen shot is amazing(!), the way it turned to the other shot when I clicked on the sides ... VERY COOL ... someone needs a hearty pat on the back for THAT idea. And being able to click on 3 different spots to bring them in closer, just the kewlest thing. And a little puzzle for those of us desperate to work the grey matter, even a little bit.

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif I feel like I've been trained like Pavlov's dogs - do a puzzle ... get a reward. That's a good girl. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

September you say, are you sure? Aw, shucks ...

Cierdwyn

[This message was edited by Cierdwyn on Tue April 06 2004 at 05:03 PM.]

Farlesis
04-06-2004, 05:55 PM
Posted on IGN.com

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Within the visually awe-inspiring world of Myst, a gripping family drama will slowly unfold. A little girl disappears, her two brothers are suspected, and it is clear that their story is far from over. Players will escape into the adventure as they attempt to solve the mystery and discover the fate of the two villainous brothers, Sirrus and Achenar. Understanding their motives is the key to the investigation which will lead to a true "revelation."<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think it's safe to say the girl is Yeesha. Unless they had another daughter that we don't know about?

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Cierdwyn
04-06-2004, 06:19 PM
Farlesis,

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif I'm so glad that you posted that quote, I KNEW that I had seen that written somewhere today, just couldn't remember where. 'Been surfing any site I could find to see what sort of info was filtering out about Myst IV.

So, since it's the demented duo, then the big question is - HOW did they get out?! Who opened the cage ... or helped them, however unwittingly? Yeesha would be a good bet on writing a link to them or of releasing them if she found the books, if the books weren't destroyed to begin with, and she'd be young enough to not realise what the consequences could be. But then, there may be others that accidentally found their way to them and released them ... but then ... aw, darn it all - Nutty I tell ya' NUTTY! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

Cierdwyn

Farlesis
04-06-2004, 06:53 PM
Oh yes lol I've been searching every site for the mere mention of Myst IV as well http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Yes I wonder as well how Sirrus and Achenar get out of the Prison Books. There's some interesting ideas about how they get out of the books on various forums and here as well. I think the most common idea is that Yeesha inadvertently lets them out or is tricked into letting them out? Or maybe even Atrus lets them out thinking they've done there time so speak?

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Mysti Sage
04-06-2004, 07:03 PM
You know, I don't think that Revelation is after MYST.
When you play MYST, the brothers are trapped already, along with Atrus. What's not clear to me is how they got that way.
Maybe Sirrus + Achenar trapped Atrus, and you come in and don't know about him. You find a way to trap the brothers, and never meet Atrus. Then a *different* person comes in for the MYST story. I'm probobly completely wrong, but I do want to know how all 3 got trapped. (4 if you count Catherine)

-And he disappears in a puff of smoke-

Cierdwyn
04-06-2004, 08:01 PM
!? After what I went through on Myst to sort that all out?! And with the trouble that came with Savaadro because of what they had done - you know I survived 2(!) near fatal hammer attacks ... WELL ... I would HATE to think that Atrus would just LET that pair out! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

I remember when I was playing Myst, with the idea that I would have to free only one of them, and thinking "I don't want to let either one of these nutbars free!" Achenar was more overtly crazy (nicely done Rand!) and Sirrus was so coldly calculating - equally as scary - I didn't want to have to let either one of them out. I was SO glad to find the 3rd book!

With this Myst then, I would have to think that someone other than Atrus would let them out. Regardless of how much he may feel guilty imprisoning them, he would have to realize that being imprisoned alone for many, many years would NOT be conducive to improving mental health. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif I suppose they could write their own way out - IF they had the proper book creating materials (papers, ink, etc), but then that would be highly unlikely given where they've been hanging out. Which then brings you back to the third party release - accidental or otherwise - someone had to have aided and abetted those boys. Someone has mentioned Gehn as a possibility, what with his writing skills, and Yeesha makes a logical choice, although, maybe they found out about her and what she could do and found someone to trick into releasing them in order to make use of her skill.

Ooohhh ... All this thinkin' and speculatin' ... &lt;sigh&gt; ... I need to go lie down a bit ... I'm sure that I heard someone mention something about gettin' nutty, I'm sure of it ... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

Cierdwyn

Nebodin
04-06-2004, 08:06 PM
I don't understand why everyone is assuming that this is set after Myst and that somehow the brothers got out of the prison books.

It seems more likely to me that the story is simply set before Myst, and could involve the brothers getting trapped in the prison books rather than their escape.

RoMushai
04-06-2004, 08:13 PM
WHile we're all adding theories, based on the information I have, here's what I think...

Revelation is set after Exile, 4-7 years after by the look of the girl, I could be wrong on her age. Also, because it's the two brothers and a sister, and the girl looks 6-7 years or so, it would have to take place after exile.

As for the destruction of the books, I would say that Atrus only made us think the books were detroyed...or that that was one of the game creators creativity at work by 'destroying' the books. I don't think that Atrus could really destroy his sons, his own flesh and blood, no matter what they had done. I know I couldn't. I could lock them in a book forever, but I couldn't kill them.

Anyway, Atrus probably took the books and locked them away were he hoped they could do no harm, however, somehow they have managed to escape. By their own power or by others we don't know. If Yeesha let them out, it would be by trickery. Perhaps she was curious about the books and had listened to their twisted, deceptive rantings. But I don't think she physically touched a book to let them out. Had she let one out that way, that one would be free. However, she would now be trapped, and the other brother would still be trapped. Perhaps she somehow wrote a way for them out? But then, she would have to be very good at writing at a very young age which I don't think is likely. Looks like she would still be learning to simply write regular word (not books) at that age...again, I could be wrong, we don't know how Atrus and Catherine have raised her. So, I believe they found other means of escaping than Yeesha...

After excaping, the brothers have found out all about the D'ni, their family, and the events of the past years. So, they begin creating their own twisted and demented ages where they plot the abduction of Yeesha. What their plan is from there? Probably to do harm to Atrus and/or gain access to more ages.

Whatever the game ends up being about, it looks VERY interesting and I'm very much looking forward to playing the game!

[This message was edited by RoMushai on Tue April 06 2004 at 07:23 PM.]

Lord Hydronium
04-06-2004, 09:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nebodin:
I don't understand why everyone is assuming that this is set after Myst and that somehow the brothers got out of the prison books.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Because it would be hard for Yeesha to disappear when she's 10 years away from being born. And Myst games have always gone in chronological order (the Myst series, that is; Uru is it's own thing).

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RoMushai:
As for the destruction of the books, I would say that Atrus only made us think the books were detroyed...or that that was one of the game creators creativity at work by 'destroying' the books. I don't think that Atrus could really destroy his sons, his own flesh and blood, no matter what they had done. I know I couldn't. I could lock them in a book forever, but I couldn't kill them.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Burning the books would just lock them away, and not kill them. Remember, trap books aren't "real", S&A are just in ages with no way out (it remains to see whether Revelation will use the artistic license interpretation or the real interpretation, i.e. trap books or prison ages), so burning the books would have no effect. However, I don't think Atrus would want to be cut off from his sons forever, and might keep the books around simply because he doesn't want to sever the last link to them. As seen in the teaser (maybe), the books would be kept very safe, but they would still be around.

mszv
04-06-2004, 10:44 PM
Please, please, please, let it not be a "prequel" to Myst. I'm not a big fan of prequels. I also don't understand how, from a story perspective, a prequel will sell (yeah, I know, Star Wars). I think that many people who played Myst might wonder "what the heck happened to Sirrus and Achenar", not "I wonder what their story was before Myst". We know their story before Myst, and we (or at least I) would like a new story, a sequel, if you will. I'd like to know what happened to them. On the little girl, I sure hope it's Yeesha. That would be so lovely, more about the entire family (our favorite disfunctional family!), with maybe some idea of how Yeesha developed such an "unusual" personality - did like her in Uru though.

I can't wait.
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Deledrius
04-06-2004, 11:34 PM
"I realized the moment I linked back to D'ni that the books had not been destroyed as I had planned. They continued on in a great plotline, of which I had no way to predict. I have tried to speculate where the next adventure will land us, but I must admit that such conjecture is futile. Still, questions about whose hands may one day free my sons are unsettling to me. I know my profound fears might never be assuaged, and so I close, realizing that once again the ending has not yet been written..."

-- Atrus, upon hearing of Myst IV

Farlesis
04-07-2004, 05:03 AM
While I don't mind the idea of a 'prequel' and it would be interesting to see from that point of view.

I'm going with the idea that RoMushai put's forward, that the girl is Yeesha and this is set 7/8 years after Exile and I agree as well that I can't see Atrus destroying his two sons, he wouldn't destroy his father. Maybe Yeesha doesn't know about her brothers? When do you tell a young girl that her two brothers are demented and locked away in books? Maybe curiosity got the better of her?

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Reeleshan
04-07-2004, 07:12 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nebodin:
The game could easily be set before Myst was set, i.e., Atrus could have still destroyed the Red and Blue books at the end of Myst - its just that we are seeing these books well before they were destroyed. The trailer said it was a story about the two brothers, so it sounds like it is set before they were trapped or immediately afterwards - in any case it seems as though it is set around the time the brothers were reaking havoc.

I'm pretty sure Exile was set after Myst, it was after he had been able to return to D'ni. Saavedro sought revenge on Atrus for all the damage his sons had done to his world, i.e., the story of Exile still makes sense even if the books had been destroyed as Saavedro is seeking revenge on Atrus, not his sons.

[This message was edited by Nebodin on Tue April 06 2004 at 02:58 PM.]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The games is set in the order they came out. Myst is the first one. And in both Riven and Exile Atrus calls the player : "My friend" which means he knows us (the player). In realMyst atrus ask: "Who the devil are you?" which means he hasnt seen the player before.

Revelation can't be set before Myst, because you also see a girl in the trailer, whom im pretty sure is Yeesha.

"A chanche to learn from my mistakes... and leave the past behind me, once and for all" Atrus

Reeleshan
04-07-2004, 07:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Farlesis:
While I don't mind the idea of a 'prequel' and it would be interesting to see from that point of view.

I'm going with the idea that RoMushai put's forward, that the girl is Yeesha and this is set 7/8 years after Exile and I agree as well that I can't see Atrus destroying his two sons, he wouldn't destroy his father. Maybe Yeesha doesn't know about her brothers? When do you tell a young girl that her two brothers are demented and locked away in books? Maybe curiosity got the better of her?

http://www.fioca.com/tree/<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats a good point. Besides the trailer says:
This family has two (secrets)
That could mean the secrets is that the brothers arent "destryoed", or it could mean Atrus and Catherine decides to hide it from everyone (including Yeesha)

"A chanche to learn from my mistakes... and leave the past behind me, once and for all" Atrus

Farlesis
04-07-2004, 07:52 AM
Yes I've been wondering about the 'every family has secrets...this one has two' line and what that could mean. What are the two secrets? And I'm intrigued as to the whereabouts of Catherine as well. No sight of her yet in the teaser trailer. Is she still alive? Maybe Atrus kept the books a secret all to himself?

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Reeleshan
04-07-2004, 08:33 AM
U-hu... I read this on

Ubisoft hasn't released too many details at the moment other than the fact the story will focus around characters Sirrus and Achner, suspected for the disappearance of a little girl. And thus, where the player's adventure begins - a quest to solve the mystery and discover the fate of the two villainous brothers.

Sirrus and Achenar is abducting a girl... More spooky than i thougt http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

"A chanche to learn from my mistakes... and leave the past behind me, once and for all" Atrus

Cierdwyn
04-07-2004, 09:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> RoMushai had written : "Perhaps she somehow wrote a way for them out? But then, she would have to be very good at writing at a very young age which I don't think is likely. Looks like she would still be learning to simply write regular word (not books) at that age ..." <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

As I remember from the novels, the children were very young - 4 - when they were sent off to learn the ways of the writers guild. If Atrus and Catherine were following the way of the D'ni, then in all likelihood Yeesha would have been well on her way to learning the art of writing ages and certainly links, and she says herself that she was very gifted at the art and was able to do things that not even the most skilled of the D'ni writing masters could do. It would be reasonable to assume that she was more than able to at least write a link to them by the age of 10ish.

Cierdwyn

barretthilton
04-07-2004, 09:25 AM
Something about the teaser and the way the two books are revealed gives me the impression that after the discovery of the missing girl, which I think must be Yeesah, Atrus reveals to us that he never destroyed his sons and we are sent to go sort of interrogate them in their books to learn if they did it and how or if someone is working for them or whatever, and it could be a really spooky psychological Silence of the Lambs thing where we're not sure if the brothers have the ability to escape their prisons, or communicate with the outside world somehow. In other words, I get the sense of it being a trap where Yeesha is held for ransom in return for the brothers' escape, but then whose hand is that pushing her into the thingy with the door that gets slammed? Great potential in this story I think.

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monsieurdavid
04-07-2004, 09:51 AM
How the two brothers might have escaped from the prison books doesn't have to involve the little girl, though that's probably the case, since what better way to have her "disappear" than into one of the books. As far as both brothers being free at the same time, that doesn't have to be the case either. I'm not up on the strict rules of how linking books work, which is to say what the restrictions are. I know from the end of Riven that two people can link at once (Atrus and Catherine), but as far as trading out someone from a prison book, couldn't you just chuck a cat onto the book and whoever is in there could get out? ;-) Since the brothers are in two separate books, I'm thinking we could be being offered two storylines, two "paths" depending on which book we somehow engage. I don't know how, but from the look of the teaser, it seems like "either/or", or "take your pick" in some way.

Cierdwyn
04-07-2004, 10:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> monsieurdavid wrote : "but as far as trading out someone from a prison book, couldn't you just chuck a cat onto the book and whoever is in there could get out? ;-) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
LOL http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif LOL

My God that struck me funny. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif &lt;wiping eyes and taking deep breath&gt;

That "either/or" option has not occured to me before. How interesting to take it along the lines of the original Myst storyline of releasing one or the other. Yet not knowing which. It'd still probably wind up being both. Yet there's the question of Gehn, too. I wonder if he'll fit into this mystery somehow - or - if his situation will come to a head in yet another Myst episode. I could live with that. Just means more Myst games down the road for me to enjoy. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Cierdwyn

Kuhlade
04-07-2004, 12:39 PM
I still think we're missing something. Gehn. Perhaps he released the brothers, his grandsons. He could be the second family secret. I also know Catherine would never have allowed her sons to be locked away forever.

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Cierdwyn
04-07-2004, 02:50 PM
Yes I agree, Gehn could factor in somehow. Yet, even he would have to have gotten free from his prison book. Is there anyone here that can give us the short version of how the prison books work? I'd be interested to know what the nature of them is. Are they an actual age or something far more contained? And what are the rules for gaining access to one and the contraints of being in one - not only those sent into one, but can someone else can find their way in also, either by design or accident.

Cierdwyn

Nebodin
04-07-2004, 04:06 PM
Thanks lordhydronium and Reeleshan for clearing that up http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif.

After your little explanations I sat and thought carefully about the beginnings and ends of Myst, Riven and Exile and realised that they do all flow into each other perfectly AND in Exile you saw yeesha as just a baby (forgot about that totally http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif )

So, now I am happily on the bandwagon with everyone else... wondering how those two got free http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

Maxine MagicFox
04-07-2004, 04:58 PM
I haven't read all of the posts here, but I had to go ahead and post my idea.

I don't think they would make a prequel to Myst since I don't think it would make much of a game, but I could be wrong. I think the girl in the video, though, is DEFINITELY Yeesha and the story continues talking about Atrus and his family. I have no idea what to speculate about those red and blue books - though maybe they are more "damaged" linking books that Atrus created which not only sealed Sirrus and Achenar but what we sealed Gehn into while playing Riven. I am not going to deny that I will be a little tense if they return the brothers since I was most definitely under the impression that Atrus had torched them since there are definite singe marks and no books in their places at the end of the game.

It might even be another Saavedro-like storyline... a Saavedro-like person tries to take his revenge and kidnaps Yeesha but Yeesha maybe cleverly escapes http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Who knows. ^_^ But I'm very hyped and I've got a lot of confidence in Ubi with the making of this game if Myst 3 is anything to go by.

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Lord Hydronium
04-07-2004, 05:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Farlesis:
Yes I've been wondering about the 'every family has secrets...this one has two' line and what that could mean. What are the two secrets?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
It just means the two brothers. It's a tagline; we probably shouldn't look too deeply into it. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

zsb
04-07-2004, 06:50 PM
wowee...
Brothers kidnapping their sister, twisted worlds, ANOTHER daughter, talk about family problems!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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Maxine MagicFox
04-07-2004, 07:55 PM
huh? another daughter? what? @_@ Max is getting confused. or did you just say that being nutty ^_^

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Reeleshan
04-08-2004, 03:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nebodin:
Thanks lordhydronium and Reeleshan for clearing that up http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif.

After your little explanations I sat and thought carefully about the beginnings and ends of Myst, Riven and Exile and realised that they do all flow into each other perfectly AND in Exile you saw yeesha as just a baby (forgot about that totally http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif )

So, now I am happily on the bandwagon with everyone else... wondering how those two got free http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You're welcome. I'm here to discuss, and help

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Phen1
04-08-2004, 07:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Farlesis:
Yes I've been wondering about the 'every family has secrets...this one has two' line and what that could mean. What are the two secrets?
http://www.fioca.com/tree/<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Geez! Stop freakin' out about the two secrets! :P It's just a tagline, the two secrets are Sirrus and Achenar, duh! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif And what the crap is ZSB talking about? Since when was there another daughter? I'm freakin' out here!

Sorry guys, I'm just relaly hyper and more than ready for this game. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

~~PHEN~~

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Eat_My_Shortz
04-09-2004, 12:50 AM
I think Myst Revelation must be set after Exile (and obviously long before Uru). Some people on the other forum believe this:

Notice the red & blue books in the trailer appear different than the Myst books. People believe that Atrus created 2 copies of each book, which each link to the same age. One in the library, and one he hid away in that rotating bally thing. He destroyed the ones in the library but now the secret ones have been discovered and the brothers have escaped.

Now we all seem to be forgetting the most important word here: RELEESHAHN. Are we finally going there or not?

Phen1
04-09-2004, 01:33 AM
I sure hope so... I think I read somewhere that they were planning to put that in Myst 5, but don't quote me on that, k? And I can't for the life of me remember where...

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Mystical Explorer
04-09-2004, 01:38 AM
i'd love to go to Releeshahn. It was really disapointing going to all that trouble to save that book and we didn't even get to see what the age looked like!

I'm pretty sure that this is after Myst, since, if you remember Catherine said in Tomahna "we moved here after Atrus finished writing Releeshahn", and we do appear to get to visit Tomahna in Revelation.

Phen1
04-09-2004, 01:44 AM
I'm sorry, call me crazy, but: where did you get the idea that we'll be visiting Tomahna in Revelation? I didn't catch any glimpse of that in the trailer. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

~~PHEN~~

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_ Paula _
04-09-2004, 05:35 AM
Phen - unless anyone posting here has some inside information from Ubisoft, I'm pretty sure that a lot of what you're reading is speculation and personal opinion. And while speculating about Revelation is fun and there's no harm in indulging, I wouldn't get my shorts in a twist over it.

Until we actually have the game in our hot little hands, I don't think any of us will really know exactly what will or won't be included in Revelation. Unless Ubisoft has pity on us and throws out a few more tidbits before release.

Paula (Pa'lua in Cavern)

Mystical Explorer
04-09-2004, 08:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Phen1:
I'm sorry, call me crazy, but: where did you get the idea that we'll be visiting Tomahna in Revelation? I didn't catch any glimpse of that in the trailer. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

~~PHEN~~

Pre-rendering ROCKS!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

They may be wrong, but on Myst Obbsession there was a screenshot labeled "Tomahna by Night". plus the screenshot does seem to show the right sort of buildings that would be in Tomahna. i dunno really.

Ze Pedro
04-10-2004, 03:35 AM
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Pa'lua, you're here too! How nice to see your face. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

_ Paula _
04-10-2004, 06:25 AM
Hi zepedro! Yep, I'm here too. You'll see me hopping around several of the Ubi forums. What with the release of the Uru xpacks and Myst Revelation, I'm going to be a very busy gamer this year! And LOVING it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Paula (Pa'lua in Cavern)

OTAKULeader
04-12-2004, 06:49 PM
It could be that the books werent destroyed for a reason maby Atrus just kept the boys in the books hoping eventualy they learned a lesson now he is letting the boys free hoping they are normal and they arent or maby it is befor the actul myst game and its all about the two kids lives and why they ended up the way they are.

Phen1
04-13-2004, 05:51 AM
Well, Otaku, i don't think it takes place before the actual Myst game, because the little girl seems to be Yeesha, who isn't born until Exile.

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OTAKULeader
04-13-2004, 01:47 PM
Well Phen if you think about it could be Atruses wife when she was younger if it is befor the actual myst think about it.

CAGrayWolf
04-13-2004, 08:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by OTAKULeader:
Well Phen if you think about it could be Atruses wife when she was younger if it is befor the actual myst think about it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not likely since in the trailer is says that "a little girl is missing and her brothers are suspected" and that they show Sirrus and Achenar as the main charaters ... leads us all to believe that the "little girl" would be Yeesha and that thsi does take place after Exile ...

Unless there is a sister that we all are not aware of. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif

Perhaps the ending has not yet been written
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Phen1
04-13-2004, 10:02 PM
I think that it is quite obvious that it takes place after Exile.

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OTAKULeader
04-14-2004, 01:05 PM
that sister we are un aware of could b actuly true might b one of the things that is a secrete the 2 bros just count as 1 then an unknow sister is the other

Unknown-One
04-14-2004, 07:57 PM
I'v just had an idea hit me! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

What if yeesha discovers the two books, and sees that changes have been made, thinking thay are mistakes she writes them out, realeasing the brothers!

I'v heard of cases where somone wrote an age, left a linking book to get back, edited the age, and came back to find NO linking book, efectivly making a "Trap Book"

So fixing the change could bring the linking book back, and let whoever is in the book out, or just linking in with another linking book could let whoever is in the book out as well.

Phen1
04-15-2004, 12:47 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

~~PHEN~~

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OTAKULeader
04-15-2004, 01:09 PM
Maby Yeesha has herd storys from her father about the boys and Ghen corrupts her so she releases her bros pourpously and they all go out to destroy everything!!!


http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/784.gifTOTAL MYST DOMINATION http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/784.gif

Unknown-One
04-16-2004, 12:42 PM
uh... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

*rins off to find a net to catch OTAKULeader in http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif*

OTAKULeader
04-16-2004, 12:55 PM
*seals himself in the multiverse which only he can access and has total controll ov everything in*

Unknown-One
04-16-2004, 08:15 PM
*calls OTAKULeader*

Hi, I hear you have contrrol of everything over there, can you make about 200 milion of the 2nd URU expansion come out with twice the content in about 3 seconds, then send them all over here?
Thanks http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

OTAKULeader
04-20-2004, 08:53 PM
*Makes the coppies and modifys them way farther then ubisoft can take them and distributes them*