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the_Wakeful
05-02-2004, 10:12 AM
Recently I've gotten into several stalls in my I-16. it is a complete flat spin and I am not upsidedown. I center the stick and apply opposite rudder but nothing happens. Eventually I fall from about 3000-4000 meters to the ground and die. What am I doing wrong? Is it possible to get an I-16 out of a flat spin?

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the_Wakeful
05-02-2004, 10:12 AM
Recently I've gotten into several stalls in my I-16. it is a complete flat spin and I am not upsidedown. I center the stick and apply opposite rudder but nothing happens. Eventually I fall from about 3000-4000 meters to the ground and die. What am I doing wrong? Is it possible to get an I-16 out of a flat spin?

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BlitzPig_DDT
05-02-2004, 10:16 AM
Gonna be tough in the I-16 as the lever arm for yaw is so short.

Some things I've heard worked on various planes is dumping flaps, applying aileron into the direction of the spin, down elevator, and messing with the throttle.

I don't fly the I-16 all that often though.

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VW-IceFire
05-02-2004, 11:17 AM
One of the nasty traits of the I-16 that I've heard mentioned before. Its not terribly stable in certain areas of the flight envelope.

Compair it to even a P-40 which has a big Allison engine and Radiator gear at the front which would no doubt help the center of balance if you got yourself into a spin...the I-16 has almost no distance between engine, pilot, and wings.

Not an aeronautical engineer but I figure these things make a difference and that its partially represented in game.

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TgD Thunderbolt56
05-02-2004, 11:28 AM
From that altitude, you should be able to recover quite a few stall/spins. Altitude is the one variable that matters the most as even if you do all the other things right, you can still run out of altitude before you can fully recover.

First, chop your throttle.

Second, apply opposite rudder

Third, apply down elevator

Deploying your flaps in the I-16 has limited effect usually, but may not be a bad idea.

The trick is to keep fighting it all the way. I've recovered from many spins after fighting it for over 2000m.



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LEXX_Luthor
05-02-2004, 11:33 AM
Just an idea I have not tried, but try turning engine off and see if that helps any. Of course getting it started again in I~16 can take some time so. Sometimes I lower gear, anything, to get out of spin, but I~16 thats not easy to do. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Curly_109
05-02-2004, 02:29 PM
don't know much about that little bird, 'cause i mostly fly Bf series, but when in stall i put my stick (not that stick! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif) forward, rudder full in opposite way of stalling direction, throttle 0%... (like someone says whatever helps --- i sometimes fire Mk108 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif when landing to lower speed--- guys on the airfield are not happy about it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif)

crazyivan1970
05-02-2004, 02:34 PM
Stick forward, opposite rudder, 0 throttle for a sec, intill RMP drop, then floor it... works for all birds, at least for me.

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