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RinoTheBouncer
08-12-2014, 03:04 PM
I’m in love with the music and the setting but not so fond of some of it’s graphical elements. They feel like a step backwards from the E3 reveal. Not everything, but some details are weak.


http://youtu.be/cOJ1fG7gc2U

DumbGamerTag94
08-12-2014, 03:07 PM
How does that look downgraded? I actually thought it was a marked improvement over the revolution gameplay trailer. It settled some of my fears

jayjay275
08-12-2014, 03:07 PM
The graphics looks the same to me. :p

RinoTheBouncer
08-12-2014, 03:08 PM
How does that look downgraded? I actually thought it was a marked improvement over the revolution gameplay trailer. It settled some of my fears

Just watch the E3 trailer and compare the UGLY faces, plants, faces, balcony fences and the edges of walls and rooftops in this trailer to the brilliance in the E3 one.

marvelfannumber
08-12-2014, 03:12 PM
I think it looks about the same. The faces always looked pretty bad, even in the E3 demos.

jayjay275
08-12-2014, 03:13 PM
Well, to me. The graphics have remained the same. I'm sure Ubisoft wouldn't want another whipping from the gaming community after what happened to Watch Dogs, which to me looked fine in the final product.

DumbGamerTag94
08-12-2014, 03:14 PM
I really see no difference. And besides there's almost always a slight downgrade from E3 with any game. It's supposed to look flashy there.

But when the rev gameplay came out I was worried because there seemed to be some flickering and pixely/ white edges on things. But this trailer didn't seem to have any of that. So I was happy.

Also I'm pretty sure the priest in this vid is the same guy who's head is off in the rev trailer.

Namikaze_17
08-12-2014, 03:18 PM
Liked the Trailer......but Meh. Same look at the city, rich people, poor people, roadkill, riots, and that's it.

When Arno killed that priest reminded me of Ezio and Rodrigo. But what REALLY caught my attention was that counsel of Assassins.

Like what? Since when was there a counsel!? Are they Mentors!? I wonder if they're from different parts of France? There's more than ONE mentor!? Is Arno in Trouble? What could that be? Elise? Failed mission?


UGH! So many questions.

Skelface
08-12-2014, 03:20 PM
Where is the downgrade? Please stop with that trend.

Namikaze_17
08-12-2014, 03:22 PM
However I loved 1:35

It's reminded me of Edward in his horizon trailer.

Now those graphics were top-notch!

JustPlainQuirky
08-12-2014, 03:23 PM
Arno's hood always looks weird to me when zoomed in.

SHADOWGARVIN
08-12-2014, 03:46 PM
And they keep downgrading the graphics... screw this!

http://youtu.be/cOJ1fG7gc2U

lol. It looks the same to me.

RinoTheBouncer
08-12-2014, 03:47 PM
Guys, just so weíre clear. Iím a Gamer and I adore video games since 1997. Iím not here to follow a trend of bashing games or claiming something that did not happen. I just happened to watch the trailer at 1080p where you supposedly get the best resolution they intend to show and it looked less awesome than the E3 trailer. The NPC count is the same but the game doesnít look very different from past gen.

m4r-k7
08-12-2014, 03:48 PM
Show us comparison screenshots then. Honestly its not been downgraded. This is a next-gen game - its not cross gen so it would be very rare for the graphics to be downgraded. I will admit the NPC's look last-gen but the city and everything else look next-gen.

Megas_Doux
08-12-2014, 03:51 PM
I saw the trailer not from crappy youtube, but from Gamersyde, looks the same......

Besides It is trailer out of gameplay, not gameplay per se.

m4r-k7
08-12-2014, 03:55 PM
Shots from the trailer..

http://i.imgur.com/jCwU8q1.png

It is identical to the other trailers and E3 demo... they are just different angles that are being shown.

GreySkellig
08-12-2014, 04:00 PM
I've found that these "music video" style AC trailers are always a little shaggier in terms of anti-aliasing and vsync. If I recall correctly, some of the trailers for ACIV had similar issues when compared to the more polished gameplay video & the final product. I think what Rhino is seeing is a product of the video's production--as shown, still frames from the video look the same as previous gameplay.

pacmanate
08-12-2014, 04:00 PM
E3 demo was shown on a PC... This isn't downgraded.

frodrigues55
08-12-2014, 04:02 PM
I liked the trailer, but what really made it for me was that final scene when the assassins came up! My body reacted with pornographic moans, it was so good.

wvstolzing
08-12-2014, 04:03 PM
I've found that these "music video" style AC trailers are always a little shaggier in terms of anti-aliasing and vsync. If I recall correctly, some of the trailers for ACIV had similar issues when compared to the more polished gameplay video & the final product. I think what Rhino is seeing is a product of the video's production--as shown, still frames from the video look the same as previous gameplay.

I think this is it. The anti-aliasing seemed a little off to me as well, but hopefully that's due to video format/compression.

rrebe
08-12-2014, 04:21 PM
1:40, slightly creepy, lol :rolleyes:

I really liked the trailer, looks good enough for me

Amaral724
08-12-2014, 05:08 PM
E3 demo was shown on a PC... This isn't downgraded.


What? wasn't supposed to be xbox one?

pacmanate
08-12-2014, 05:19 PM
What? wasn't supposed to be xbox one?

It was PC on max settings played with a 360 controller.

Sushiglutton
08-12-2014, 05:29 PM
I really like the contrast between the busy/crowded streets and the calm freedom of the rooftops! Looks cool so far. Not really a ton of new info in that trailer, besides the jed.. I mean Assassin's council!

True_Assassin92
08-12-2014, 05:30 PM
And they keep downgrading the graphics... screw this!


http://youtu.be/cOJ1fG7gc2U

Exactly! The first thing I thought is that it reminded of black flag quality on ps4 which wasn't even true "next gen"....

Shahkulu101
08-12-2014, 05:31 PM
I really like the contrast between the busy/crowded streets and the calm freedom of the rooftops! Looks cool so far. Not really a ton of new info in that trailer, besides the jed.. I mean Assassin's council!

I hope the mentor is a dwarf dressed in green!

Sushiglutton
08-12-2014, 05:35 PM
I hope the mentor is a dwarf dressed in green!

Hrm hrm true nothing is, hrrrrm permitted is everything

Shahkulu101
08-12-2014, 05:39 PM
Hrm hrm true nothing is, hrrrrm permitted is everything

Gold! :D

Amaral724
08-12-2014, 05:57 PM
It was PC on max settings played with a 360 controller.


Both co-op and single player demos? The co-op one was a bit better in my opinion...

RinoTheBouncer
08-12-2014, 05:58 PM
I've found that these "music video" style AC trailers are always a little shaggier in terms of anti-aliasing and vsync. If I recall correctly, some of the trailers for ACIV had similar issues when compared to the more polished gameplay video & the final product. I think what Rhino is seeing is a product of the video's production--as shown, still frames from the video look the same as previous gameplay.

I don’t know. Maybe you’re right. I noticed the anti-aliasing is pretty cheap here and their faces and mo-cap of the mouth is weird like ACIV.


Exactly! The first thing I thought is that it reminded of black flag quality on ps4 which wasn't even true "next gen"....

Yes! and I watched it on YouTube at 1080p so that I make sure that I see the trailer as intended and it’s the same resolution where I watched the early reveals and yes, it’s definitely downgraded. Focus on the fences, the faces, the plants, the edges, they’re just as reductive as ACIV.

SHADOWGARVIN
08-12-2014, 06:02 PM
It looks great.

Assassin_M
08-12-2014, 07:59 PM
I don't see the downgrade...

EmbodyingSeven5
08-12-2014, 08:13 PM
just saw the new AC U trailer and I am stoked! the scenes in the world looked detailed and pretty awesome! one thing I would like to point out is the end of the trailer. we see Arno standing before a council of ASSASSINS! this got me excited because it seems AC U is trying to bring back the feeling of the assassin order being strong and large but still in the shadows! in other words extreme AC nostalgia for players!! I really like the idea of the assassins pre existing in the area before you join them. it seems to make characters and other npcs seem more important. also it helps make the world feel more realistic and not like the world revolves around you and you alone! so I am really excited for this how about you guys!?

m4r-k7
08-12-2014, 08:15 PM
extreme AC nostalgia for players!!

Damn right! That end part gave me chills!

Assassin_M
08-12-2014, 08:24 PM
That doesn't excite me at all....I don't get excited about specific plot details like Romance or the presence of the Brotherhood, I don't particularly care about nostalgia either. I care about how those plot details will be implemented. The Brotherhood missions, the complex layers to the relationship between Arno and Elise, that kind of stuff.

Shahkulu101
08-12-2014, 08:30 PM
That doesn't excite me at all....I don't get excited about specific plot details like Romance or the presence of the Brotherhood, I don't particularly care about nostalgia either. I care about how those plot details will be implemented. The Brotherhood missions, the complex layers to the relationship between Arno and Elise, that kind of stuff.

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/822/3208/320/Monocle-man.0.gif

Well aren't you fancy

SHADOWGARVIN
08-12-2014, 08:32 PM
That last part was fantastic!!

LoyalACFan
08-12-2014, 08:32 PM
Well the whole framing device for the co-op missions is that Arno completes them with other Assassins, so yeah, the Brotherhood must have a more pronounced presence than AC2 or AC3.

I-Like-Pie45
08-12-2014, 08:33 PM
The Assassins bunch of crusty old men in robes who think they can control the world through the exploitation of the people and the manipulation of the idealistic young. Their greater presence is not a benefit, but a liability to true world security.

Open your eyes, Assassin sheep.

Sesheenku
08-12-2014, 08:48 PM
The Assassins bunch of crusty old men in robes who think they can control the world through the exploitation of the people and the manipulation of the idealistic young. Their greater presence is not a benefit, but a liability to true world security.

Open your eyes, Assassin sheep.

Go home and have some pie.

LoyalACFan
08-12-2014, 08:52 PM
Yeah, no, there is no downgrade. If anything it looks upgraded from the Bastille Day trailer.

DumbGamerTag94
08-12-2014, 08:53 PM
Yeah, no, there is no downgrade. If anything it looks upgraded from the Bastille Day trailer.

Yes! Exactly!

Megas_Doux
08-12-2014, 09:00 PM
FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I want that feeling of a well structured brotherhood back, pretty much like in AC I. Now I remember an interview in which it is said that Arno is not a big fan of that haha.

Sigv4rd
08-12-2014, 09:08 PM
So now that the Assassins are Jedi does this mean that Elise is a Sith?
http://www.digitaljournal.com/img/4/5/4/4/9/2/i/1/9/9/o/Assassin_s_Creed_Unity_Screengrab_4.jpg
Darth Serre!

dxsxhxcx
08-12-2014, 09:10 PM
the first thing that came through my mind when I saw that was Star Wars.. :p

jellejackhammer
08-12-2014, 09:18 PM
would be intresting if there are more high profile ranks for assassin's like ofc the mentor but also a advisor,judge and lawyer :) maybe the four assassin's represented each rank respectively and confronted arno with his love for a templar

DumbGamerTag94
08-12-2014, 09:22 PM
And the head of the tribunal is Assassin Grand master(and Canadian immigrant) Stephan Chapeau!!!

AC3 and Unity connection confirmed!! Cats out of the bag

JustPlainQuirky
08-12-2014, 09:22 PM
I hope Joseph Decreux is a head assassin.

DumbGamerTag94
08-12-2014, 09:28 PM
@Mayrice

Yes! It's Joseph Decreaux, Stephan Chapeau, Jacques Cleauseau(Pink Panther), and Jean Gerard(Taledega Nights). Anachronisms and real life characters be damned!!! Hahaha

I-Like-Pie45
08-12-2014, 09:31 PM
Jacques, not Jaques

You racist.

JustPlainQuirky
08-12-2014, 09:34 PM
Maybe the final boss in Unity are the head Assassins who try to sentence you to death for compromising the creed and not killing Elise.

DumbGamerTag94
08-12-2014, 09:37 PM
There fixed it happy SJW?

jellejackhammer
08-12-2014, 09:46 PM
maybe they killed arno's real father for trying to unite the two factions in secret against the will of the assassin's. would be awsome to have assassin's that only work inside the order as the justice system like we have court's today and such! still rooting for the mentor,advisor,judge and lawyer aspect

Hans684
08-12-2014, 09:50 PM
maybe they killed arno's real father for trying to unite the two factions in secret against the will of the assassin's. would be awsome to have assassin's that only work inside the order as the justice system like we have court's today and such! still rooting for the mentor,advisor,judge and lawyer aspect

There was something like that in Rome during Ezio's time, as shown by Project Legacy. Looks like the same in Unity.

Sesheenku
08-12-2014, 09:56 PM
There fixed it happy SJW?

PieMuncher is never serious.

jellejackhammer
08-12-2014, 09:56 PM
we might see arno getting a trial :D

DumbGamerTag94
08-12-2014, 09:59 PM
PieMuncher is never serious.

Haha I know that. I'm just playing along with his gimmick of the week

EmbodyingSeven5
08-12-2014, 10:07 PM
haha i know that. I'm just playing along with his gimmick of the week

or are you??????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????????

RinoTheBouncer
08-12-2014, 10:09 PM
That doesn't excite me at all....I don't get excited about specific plot details like Romance or the presence of the Brotherhood, I don't particularly care about nostalgia either. I care about how those plot details will be implemented. The Brotherhood missions, the complex layers to the relationship between Arno and Elise, that kind of stuff.

Same here. I donít care if they introduce just one elements to excite everyone. I care about how it will be in the final product and how the overall experience will be, not just love it for having the ability to sail or play co-op or have a girl Templar somewhere in the horizon.

RinoTheBouncer
08-12-2014, 10:12 PM
The city looks and feels so alive with NPCs. There are still some graphical instabilities with certain edges and the terrible plants and shrubs. The faces don’t look so good either and it the anti-aliasing is bad. Otherwise, the game is gonna be fantastic in terms of setting and graphics. I’m curious to know about the story and more importantly the modern day and the first civ. sides of the plot.

EmbodyingSeven5
08-12-2014, 10:14 PM
Same here. I don’t care if they introduce just one elements to excite everyone. I care about how it will be in the final product and how the overall experience will be, not just love it for having the ability to sail or play co-op or have a girl Templar somewhere in the horizon.

wait???? then why do you go on forums in the first place???? why not ignore all the details and wait for the final game? if you two want to see how things will be in the final product WHY do you go on AC forums???????? I find your hypocriticalness unsettling

LoyalACFan
08-12-2014, 10:15 PM
I don’t know if we’re looking at the same trailer, but play it at 1080p, launch full screen mode and focus on the details: the edges, the faces, the anti-aliasing, the plants and compare that to the E3 gameplay trailer. I love the game, I have nothing personal against Ubisoft that makes me go around bashing them for no reason other than hating them, but I find it more close to the level of ACIV than the level of the E3 trailer which impressed me very much.

I mean... watch it on Gamersyde or something. I really don't see how it looks worse than the E3 one, and it sure as hell looks better than AC4 to me.

Wolfmeister1010
08-12-2014, 10:18 PM
It was PC on max settings played with a 360 controller.

Why do you keep saying that? All of the games at that Microsoft conference were Xbox stats. Even Witcher 3, a game centered on PC, was shown on Xbox One or Xbox One stats on Pc, confirmed.


Let's not forget that various AC4 trailers, such as the "Under The Black Flag" trailer and various gamestop commercials looked like total crap. This trailer was simply edited in a weird way.

However, I am worried about the framerate for consoles. It dropped to like 18 in the e3 demo. Also, the crappy anti aliasing will be the death of this game on consoles, because in such a detailed environment it really shows how flickery it is. Obviously the PC will follow AC3, AC4, and Watch Dogs in using the Nvidia TXAA anti aliasing, which will make it look smoother. The obvious lack of this tech in the demos also proves that it wasn't on PC..well..coupled with the fact that is was below 30 fps and had console level resolution.

The reason it looks worse is because the way it is edited. You can see all the buildings, which shows all the flickering. In the demo..when you were in player perspective, you could only see certain part of the map around you, hence the lowered flickering.

However if you have solid proof that it was on PC at max graphics..then I will stop trying to combat your theory.

RinoTheBouncer
08-12-2014, 10:24 PM
I mean... watch it on Gamersyde or something. I really don't see how it looks worse than the E3 one, and it sure as hell looks better than AC4 to me.

It’s not on the level of ACIV, it’s higher. But at some points, it feels like a GREAT PS3 game rather than a PS4 game. Note: I edited my post which you quoted, just in case I didn’t write my opinion accurately. If you look closely at the faces, anti-aliasing, the plants (which are TERRIBLE) and some deeper details, you’ll see what I’m talking about, but in general, it isn’t bad.

TheJurre
08-12-2014, 10:26 PM
It seems like they picked Tom Hardy as a role-model for Arno. ;P

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/150x100q90/537/a6yn1X.png (http://imageshack.com/f/exa6yn1Xp)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/150x100q90/661/ojBA1x.png (http://imageshack.com/f/idojBA1xp)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/150x100q90/910/LdlCg4.png (http://imageshack.com/f/paLdlCg4p)

RinoTheBouncer
08-12-2014, 10:28 PM
It seems like they picked Tom Hardy as a role-model for Arno. ;P

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/150x100q90/537/a6yn1X.png (http://imageshack.com/f/exa6yn1Xp)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/150x100q90/661/ojBA1x.png (http://imageshack.com/f/idojBA1xp)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/150x100q90/910/LdlCg4.png (http://imageshack.com/f/paLdlCg4p)

Hahaa! I love this. And I agree that they do look a bit alike.
I feel like they changed his face. I mean if you look at the first promotional renders including the box art, you’ll see that the person there looks a lot different from the person shown here and also different from the one in the early trailers (whom we barely saw).

m4r-k7
08-12-2014, 10:36 PM
Remember how much different promotional Connor looked (CGI trailers / box art) when compared with in game Connor

RinoTheBouncer
08-12-2014, 10:36 PM
wait???? then why do you go on forums in the first place???? why not ignore all the details and wait for the final game? if you two want to see how things will be in the final product WHY do you go on AC forums???????? I find your hypocriticalness unsettling

There’s no hypocrisy here. I go on forums to discuss the game, voice my opinion about the setting, and read other fans feedbacks, speculations and expectations. I rarely watch interviews. I only watch official trailers like the CGI or the ones that included cutscenes from the game...etc. and no gameplay demos. But on the other hand, I don’t LOVE or HATE a game just because they said there’s sailing in it, or there’s co-op or better parkour. I might like or hate the idea but my final judgement will be on what the final product looks like.

For example WATCH_DOGS made itself sound like it’s a marvel in hacking and all about the world of hacking and computer geeks and conspiracies and perhaps even a spiritual successor of AC, set in modern day but in reality, it was more of a GTA and all the hacking shortly became just another gameplay mechanic, no different from being told that what we’re doing is magic or superpowers, rather than hacking. So from there on, I stopped getting too excited about one or two aspects that Ubisoft or any other company promotes the hell out of, before the release of the game.

RinoTheBouncer
08-12-2014, 10:38 PM
Remember how much different promotional Connor looked (CGI trailers / box art) when compared with in game Connor

Yeah. Connor looks and sounds totally different from what I thought he’ll be after watching the early trailers, including the CGI ones.

pacmanate
08-12-2014, 10:49 PM
Why do you keep saying that? All of the games at that Microsoft conference were Xbox stats. Even Witcher 3, a game centered on PC, was shown on Xbox One or Xbox One stats on Pc, confirmed.


Let's not forget that various AC4 trailers, such as the "Under The Black Flag" trailer and various gamestop commercials looked like total crap. This trailer was simply edited in a weird way.

However, I am worried about the framerate for consoles. It dropped to like 18 in the e3 demo. Also, the crappy anti aliasing will be the death of this game on consoles, because in such a detailed environment it really shows how flickery it is. Obviously the PC will follow AC3, AC4, and Watch Dogs in using the Nvidia TXAA anti aliasing, which will make it look smoother. The obvious lack of this tech in the demos also proves that it wasn't on PC..well..coupled with the fact that is was below 30 fps and had console level resolution.

The reason it looks worse is because the way it is edited. You can see all the buildings, which shows all the flickering. In the demo..when you were in player perspective, you could only see certain part of the map around you, hence the lowered flickering.

However if you have solid proof that it was on PC at max graphics..then I will stop trying to combat your theory.





I cant find the article, but do you honestly think an open world game on Xbox One can be 1080p and be fluxing between 20-50fps?

Kakuzu745
08-12-2014, 10:56 PM
Yeah, the last part looked amazing...I hope it goes along with a well implemented plot but really, that part really got me excited about the game.

Wolfmeister1010
08-12-2014, 10:58 PM
I cant find the article, but do you honestly think an open world game on Xbox One can be 1080p and be fluxing between 20-50fps?

No. That is why certain parts look bad. And who says it is 1080p on Xbox One? The youtube video was 1080p..sure. But the actual game?

If we are going back to that genius guy who said they are shooting for 1080p and 60fps on consoles...let's not take anything he says as even remotely fact..

I mean on my PS4 at some points some games went from like 20 to 45. Its not like console games are incapable of fluctuating

Jexx21
08-12-2014, 11:13 PM
That doesn't excite me at all....I don't get excited about specific plot details like Romance or the presence of the Brotherhood, I don't particularly care about nostalgia either. I care about how those plot details will be implemented. The Brotherhood missions, the complex layers to the relationship between Arno and Elise, that kind of stuff.

I get excited about both of those things.

I thought that AC3 had a bunch of complex layers that you don't necesarily see your first play-through. Like Charles not being a jerk to Connor just to be a jerk, but rather to attempt to manipulate him.

RinoTheBouncer
08-12-2014, 11:18 PM
With all due respect, I still find all the talk about how it’s impossible to make Open-World games 1080p 60fps, is nonsense. They just don’t wanna invest so much resources on cosmetic things which explains why all games suck graphically except for a few marvels. Even in the PS3 era, there’s so much the PS3 could offer and it was evident from several games, yet the general look was obviously not the best the console could offer. With the minor exception with this gen. is that the tech demos showed a CGI-like gameplay and all we got is polished PS3 versions and tones of excuses.

Wolfmeister1010
08-12-2014, 11:20 PM
Well, once any of the next gen consoles have an open world game that is 1080p and 60 fps, I will believe you.

m4r-k7
08-12-2014, 11:23 PM
People expect too much. Its not about graphics, its about gameplay. As long as the game runs well and has a well written story / fun gameplay mechanics I am sold.
I am not getting Unity for its graphics, I am getting it for my love of AC and the upgraded mechanics. The awesome graphics is just another plus for me.
I am already immersed in Ubisoft's worlds with the AC cities they create (apart from when glitches happen like when NPC's spaz out when they die)

RinoTheBouncer
08-12-2014, 11:26 PM
Well, once any of the next gen consoles have an open world game that is 1080p and 60 fps, I will believe you.

Fair enough. 6 years (the typical life cycle of a console until another is released) is a long time and is probably long enough to be able to create such a thing.

Wolfmeister1010
08-12-2014, 11:29 PM
People expect too much. Its not about graphics, its about gameplay. As long as the game runs well and has a well written story / fun gameplay mechanics I am sold.
I am not getting Unity for its graphics, I am getting it for my love of AC and the upgraded mechanics. The awesome graphics is just another plus for me.
I am already immersed in Ubisoft's worlds with the AC cities they create (apart from when glitches happen like when NPC's spaz out when they die)

Of course it isn't just about graphics. But graphics are a big part, at least for me.

Witcher 3 trailer shown: WOAH AMAZING WELCOME TO NEXT GEN

Watch Dogs trailers shown: Guys its not about graphics its about gameplay

m4r-k7
08-12-2014, 11:30 PM
Witcher 3 trailer shown: WOAH AMAZING WELCOME TO NEXT GEN

Watch Dogs trailers shown: Guys its not about graphics its about gameplay

Precisely. But ultimately people will buy a game based on its gameplay not graphics. The Witcher 3 looks great in both departments.

Jexx21
08-12-2014, 11:38 PM
I'm not actually that large of a fan of The Witcher's artistic style.

killzab
08-12-2014, 11:50 PM
Why do you keep saying that? All of the games at that Microsoft conference were Xbox stats. Even Witcher 3, a game centered on PC, was shown on Xbox One or Xbox One stats on Pc, confirmed.


Let's not forget that various AC4 trailers, such as the "Under The Black Flag" trailer and various gamestop commercials looked like total crap. This trailer was simply edited in a weird way.

However, I am worried about the framerate for consoles. It dropped to like 18 in the e3 demo. Also, the crappy anti aliasing will be the death of this game on consoles, because in such a detailed environment it really shows how flickery it is. Obviously the PC will follow AC3, AC4, and Watch Dogs in using the Nvidia TXAA anti aliasing, which will make it look smoother. The obvious lack of this tech in the demos also proves that it wasn't on PC..well..coupled with the fact that is was below 30 fps and had console level resolution.

The reason it looks worse is because the way it is edited. You can see all the buildings, which shows all the flickering. In the demo..when you were in player perspective, you could only see certain part of the map around you, hence the lowered flickering.

However if you have solid proof that it was on PC at max graphics..then I will stop trying to combat your theory.

But TXAA isn't that great ,it has a severe impact on the performance and blurs the image A LOT

Wolfmeister1010
08-13-2014, 12:20 AM
But TXAA isn't that great ,it has a severe impact on the performance and blurs the image A LOT

Blurs the image? I haven't noticed that

Assassin_M
08-13-2014, 12:45 AM
Of course it isn't just about graphics. But graphics are a big part, at least for me.

Witcher 3 trailer shown: WOAH AMAZING WELCOME TO NEXT GEN

Watch Dogs trailers shown: Guys its not about graphics its about gameplay
Tell me again how graphics made games masterpieces, mister...graphics sell games but in the end, really, they don't decide your overall experience...You don't remember a game with AWESOME graphics but terrible design fondly.
Graphics are like the nude women marketing sticks on their products to attract but once buy the product, the immediateness of the eye candy vanishes.

Awesome graphics are nice to have, don't get me wrong but it becomes a problem when people start raging if they're not literally mind blowing...

That said, this is referring to Rhino about graphics getting better over time and thus developers are lying--A console is like a puzzle. All the hardware is in there but you're still trying to find a right balance to strike with the game you're creating, it also does not help if the console itself is not balance, which unfortunately the PS4 and Xbox one are--they have to create that balance because their most important priority is performance...the very first thing they think about is performance--if it's anything below what they're shooting for, it's done--they have to lessen their target.
It's not that they WANT to do this, it's that they have to.

I still don't see any downgrade after 3 hours of watching the trailer and pausing every second to analyze.


Blurs the image? I haven't noticed that
Anti-Aliasing is an artificial way of reducing jaggies, resolution is a much better and more natural alternative. It's also severely demanding performance wise, like kill said and it's bad for your eyes, brah

Wolfmeister1010
08-13-2014, 02:20 AM
Anti-Aliasing is an artificial way of reducing jaggies, resolution is a much better and more natural alternative. It's also severely demanding performance wise, like kill said and it's bad for your eyes, brah

Can higher resolution really fix that? So I suppose if you can run it on PC at such a high resolution you wouldn't even need TXAA

Ureh
08-13-2014, 02:22 AM
Looks beautiful... simply beautiful.

Assassin_M
08-13-2014, 02:24 AM
Can higher resolution really fix that? So I suppose if you can run it on PC at such a high resolution you wouldn't even need TXAA
It can fix it as much as AA without taking as much processing power so it is better, yes exactly.

LatinaC09
08-13-2014, 02:29 AM
Looks great to me! Can't wait to get my hands on the game. I never expect games to look like their trailers lol. As long as the game plays well it will be fine for me.

deskp
08-13-2014, 04:40 AM
"not a downgrade" "e3 was on xbox one specs"

Um, have you pepole looked at the robe physics in this trailer? stiff as a baguette... The robes looks more fluid in ac3 and 4. at e3 they were simulated.

The semi shiny shader on his robes are also missing.

The difference btween this trailer and the e3 gameplay is huge. Fine using a pc to run your game at a xbox confrence, but don't include these obvious graphical features that wont make it to the console...

DoNNiEDaRkO50
08-13-2014, 06:29 AM
Gave me AC2 vibe ! which gave me a little bit of hope. Really hope it matches AC2.

Assassin_M
08-13-2014, 06:48 AM
"not a downgrade" "e3 was on xbox one specs"

Um, have you pepole looked at the robe physics in this trailer? stiff as a baguette... The robes looks more fluid in ac3 and 4. at e3 they were simulated.

The semi shiny shader on his robes are also missing.

The difference btween this trailer and the e3 gameplay is huge. Fine using a pc to run your game at a xbox confrence, but don't include these obvious graphical features that wont make it to the console...
The shiny texture being gone is not really a downgrade, as for everything else--I don't see it, sorry...the robes are as elastic as ever.

deskp
08-13-2014, 06:58 AM
The shiny texture being gone is not really a downgrade, as for everything else--I don't see it, sorry...the robes are as elastic as ever.

Please Compare Arno's robe, at the start of the coop gameplay. with Arno hanging from the tower in this new trailer. Its nigth and day.

Assassin_M
08-13-2014, 07:21 AM
Please Compare Arno's robe, at the start of the coop gameplay. with Arno hanging from the tower in this new trailer. Its nigth and day.
Ah, you're actually correct, I see it now--My apologies. This might not be a case of downgrade, though...the software Ubisoft most likely uses to capture the footage for these trailers (i.e set the camera angles..etc) can interfere with the simulation of some physics and visual effects.

pacmanate
08-13-2014, 07:53 AM
I hate arnos rubber clothes :|

Edit - Electro Vs Arno confirmed

Legendz54
08-13-2014, 08:18 AM
I hate arnos rubber clothes :|

Edit - Electro Vs Arno confirmed

U hate everything...

killzab
08-13-2014, 09:25 AM
Blurs the image? I haven't noticed that

Try comparing SMAA and TXAA you'll see SMAA is MUCH sharper.

You could use downsampling to get rid of aliasing by playing the game in 4K on a 1080p screen but it is even more demanding lol ; you'd need like 4 780 ti's or something like that

Aphex_Tim
08-13-2014, 07:58 PM
Wow, I change my sig to a pic of Nils Frahm and suddenly Ubisoft uses his music in a new AC trailer. It must be a sign!
I should try this more often. :p