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Reptilis91
07-28-2014, 02:30 PM
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.531839310250316.1073741959.340276136073302&type=1

https://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/l/t1.0-9/1901343_531839330250314_3564402025762624921_n.jpg
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SHADOWGARVIN
07-28-2014, 02:45 PM
Looks great!

JustPlainQuirky
07-28-2014, 02:57 PM
......................

Romeo/Juliet AC: Unity plot confirmed :rolleyes:


Nevertheless having a lady templar is good for cosplay :o

m4r-k7
07-28-2014, 02:58 PM
Now that theres an important female character, everyone hating at Ubisoft can stop right? xD

SpiritOfNevaeh
07-28-2014, 03:00 PM
Now that theres an important female character, everyone hating at Ubisoft can stop right? xD

Lol I know right?

.. Or maybe they'll still be mad because the female lead is not an assassin? :rolleyes:

JustPlainQuirky
07-28-2014, 03:00 PM
they'll just complain that there were no playable ladies.

m4r-k7
07-28-2014, 03:03 PM
People just jump on the hate bandwagon. I reckon 95% of them don't realise that everyone plays as Arno in co-op.

SpiritOfNevaeh
07-28-2014, 03:05 PM
People just jump on the hate bandwagon. I reckon 95% of them don't realise that everyone plays as Arno in co-op.

I thought the same thing. They probably haven't been watching the 'making of' videos so they'll be totally surprised when they receive the game.

m4r-k7
07-28-2014, 03:08 PM
I think people think that we can create our own assassin and that Ubisoft have deliberately not given us a female option. Then when Ubisoft replied with the comment saying it was extra work that put them in a crappy position. They should have just said "Everyone plays as Arno like everyone plays as Aiden on Watch Dogs, you do not create your own assassin" DONE :)

JustPlainQuirky
07-28-2014, 03:13 PM
How many of you guys want to bet she'll have her pretty ol head chopped at the guillotine? :rolleyes:

m4r-k7
07-28-2014, 03:16 PM
Yeah she is definitely not going to make it. Last cutscene she will get beheaded and Arno won't be able to stop it and he be like "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Elise!!!"
The end.

Reptilis91
07-28-2014, 03:16 PM
Or maybe at the end Arno has to assassinate her. :nonchalance:

jeordievera
07-28-2014, 03:18 PM
Or she will kill Arno, end of the game!

GoldenBoy9999
07-28-2014, 03:18 PM
OR maybe Elise assassinates Arno :nonchalance:

Edit: You beat me to it.

JustPlainQuirky
07-28-2014, 03:20 PM
Or maybe the two work things out and manage to survive the revolution unscathed!

...


http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/originals/85/30/5e/85305efdd72a102c6f368bc0627b695c.jpg

m4r-k7
07-28-2014, 03:20 PM
Or they live happily ever after, have a kid who is the protagonist for the next AC game lol

jeordievera
07-28-2014, 03:21 PM
Or they live happily ever after, have a kid who is the protagonist for the next AC game lol

AC Comet! :D

JustPlainQuirky
07-28-2014, 03:23 PM
For some reason Elise looks more like a pirate here.

I don't see anything templar-y about her.

GoldenBoy9999
07-28-2014, 03:23 PM
AC Comet! :D

Well then I definitely see why it's a secret! That would spoil the whole thing.

Lowly Assassin
07-28-2014, 03:24 PM
So the pics are from the French ubisptre site or the italien site?
Anyone that's not English or got the ... 'Know how'. Want to seen what version of shop.ubi.com they are on so we can get in watermarked pics

m4r-k7
07-28-2014, 03:26 PM
Ubisoft be like

http://38.media.tumblr.com/c5334ee34d3a7a8a2cc434aa915ed84b/tumblr_n8l7undEwp1trcl8mo1_400.gif

jeordievera
07-28-2014, 03:26 PM
For some reason Elise looks more like a pirate here.

I don't see anything templar-y about her.

She reminds me of Anne Bonny, minus the cleavage :D
I have no idea what's with Ubi and redheads..

SpiritOfNevaeh
07-28-2014, 03:28 PM
Ubisoft be like

http://38.media.tumblr.com/c5334ee34d3a7a8a2cc434aa915ed84b/tumblr_n8l7undEwp1trcl8mo1_400.gif

Lolzzz

JustPlainQuirky
07-28-2014, 03:28 PM
I think Elise will probably be the woman in the comic-con trailer then.

m4r-k7
07-28-2014, 03:28 PM
Who is this?

http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/%C3%89lise_Lafleur

Same name, sounds French, but different character - Ubisoft you mean people!

Gin0r
07-28-2014, 03:40 PM
I have no idea what's with Ubi and redheads..

Because this, maybe? ;-)
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HeroesWantRedHeads

Also, I’m really really sorry for linking to TVTropes.

Kaschra
07-28-2014, 03:42 PM
She looks gorgeous :eek:

Also, the theories abot her being a Templar were true! So probably the Assassin/Templar love story too :>

JustPlainQuirky
07-28-2014, 03:42 PM
TV tropes made me realize how literally nothing is original.

@kaschra

that guy who pointed out that templar cross symbol on her clothes deserves a gold medal.

D.I.D.
07-28-2014, 03:50 PM
****ing LOL. They sculpted it so you can see her arse through her coat. Slow clap.

As for the character, is it too much to hope that she won't be an utterly cheap emotional device like Clara in Watch Dogs?

yes

How about they both leave their respective orders, and both survive?

don't be stupid

JustPlainQuirky
07-28-2014, 03:57 PM
Both leaving their respective orders would be mad awesome.

Though I don' think that would bode well with the Assassins/Templars.

Do it Ubi.

#dontknowwhothatstupidremarkwasdirectedtobutrude

D.I.D.
07-28-2014, 03:58 PM
I was saying "don't be stupid" to myself, for asking such a question:)

m4r-k7
07-28-2014, 03:59 PM
#ispentlikeawholeminutetryingtoreadthathashtag

JustPlainQuirky
07-28-2014, 04:01 PM
Either way i get the feeling I'll like this girl much more than aveline and Lucy. But to be fair I never liked Lucy because of her fish lips. :rolleyes:

I doubt she'd beat my love for Shao Jun though. Shao Jun is awesome :p

@doubleclick

Oh okay then :p

@m4r

hue hue hue :rolleyes:

Assassin_M
07-28-2014, 04:02 PM
Well then...raised by Templar, love interest is Templar...hmm...I'm desperately hoping this is some type of good set up like Brotherhood's E3 gameplay set up...anyone remember that? They explicitly showed Mario's death with no care in the world but then when people bought the game, they were introduced with "Mario Auditore led me here"--True, it had...absolutely no pay off but it was a pretty cool hook for anyone who watched the E3 gameplay and thought that Mario was definitely dead.

ze_topazio
07-28-2014, 04:08 PM
She is definitely the princess from Sonic 2006 grown up.

Kaschra
07-28-2014, 04:10 PM
Hm... maybe she converts Arno to the Templar Order...
Hey, I can at least dream, right?

JustPlainQuirky
07-28-2014, 04:10 PM
Ze how dare you bring up the monstrosity Sonic '06 in this forum.

This Elise doesn't deserved to be compared to....THAT

This Elise is a MOFO Templar. Not the laaaaame Lucy Templar. The awesome kind. I know it.

@kaschra

I think he starts off as a templar. He is from a templar family, lol.

Besides if he turned to a templar how would that work with Assassin co-op?

Assassin_M
07-28-2014, 04:11 PM
Hm... maybe she converts Arno to the Templar Order...
Hey, I can at least dream, right?
That'd mean he dies and he might just be a favorite of yours.....and thus end up in your sig:p

ze_topazio
07-28-2014, 04:16 PM
I have been wanting for a while to have a main character that in the end converts to the Templar order and the final sequence is him/her going Anakin Skywalker on the Assassins, using his/her knowledge and superior skills to annihilate the entire Brotherhood in the country, order 66 style.

Kaschra
07-28-2014, 04:16 PM
@kaschra

I think he starts off as a templar. He is from a templar family, lol.

Besides if he turned to a templar how would that work with Assassin co-op?

That's also a possibility

Hm... Templar co-op? xD


That'd mean he dies and he might just be a favorite of yours.....and thus end up in your sig:p
Goddammit,Mo :I

ze_topazio
07-28-2014, 04:22 PM
Ze how dare you bring up the monstrosity Sonic '06 in this forum.

This Elise doesn't deserved to be compared to....THAT

This Elise is a MOFO Templar. Not the laaaaame Lucy Templar. The awesome kind. I know it.

@kaschra

I think he starts off as a templar. He is from a templar family, lol.

Besides if he turned to a templar how would that work with Assassin co-op?

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2014/25/1403198057-elise-1.jpg

http://www.testedich.de/quiz33/picture/pic_1392731220_19.jpg

JustPlainQuirky
07-28-2014, 04:24 PM
I have been wanting for a while to have a main character that in the end converts to the Templar order and the final sequence is him/her going Anakin Skywalker on the Assassins, using his/her knowledge and superior skills to annihilate the entire Brotherhood in the country, order 66 style.

That's what Connor should do. :rolleyes:

But that is another subject entirely so... :p

Sushiglutton
07-28-2014, 04:32 PM
Damn... she looks.. awesome :o! I'm all for a little Romeo & Juliet in AC. The last couple of games were pretty barren in the love department.

But I thought Ubi hated women? I'm sure I read it somewhere on the interwebz.

Anyway decided to write a song für her:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mVW8tgGY_w

JustPlainQuirky
07-28-2014, 04:36 PM
Maybe they both get guillotined so Ubi doesn't have to worry about people demanding sequels. :rolleyes:

frodrigues55
07-28-2014, 04:39 PM
She looks gorgeous, on that backstage video I was blown away the second she appeared. I gotta stop reading now, I'm already spoiling myself and the game has been barely promoted so far.

Sushiglutton
07-28-2014, 04:40 PM
Maybe they both get guillotined so Ubi doesn't have to worry about people demanding sequels. :rolleyes:

I hope the whole cast gets guillotined and then they can tap dance, with their heads in their hands, as the credits roll.

Xstantin
07-28-2014, 04:46 PM
So theories were correct :). Now we just need to find out if Robespierre is one of the Templars too.

I-Like-Pie45
07-28-2014, 04:48 PM
if only she was his biological sister

JustPlainQuirky
07-28-2014, 04:48 PM
I hope he is neither templar nor assassin.

SpiritOfNevaeh
07-28-2014, 04:52 PM
I hope he is neither templar nor assassin.

It's too obvious with that cross. She has "Templar" written all over her :p

aL_____eX
07-28-2014, 04:54 PM
I hope he is neither templar nor assassin.
Like Edward was for most of the time in Black Flag? I wouldn't like that, he should be one side. But I would like to have a character who questions the 'Creed' if necessary.

edit: Did you mean he or she? :p If it's about Elise, I want her to be a true Templar. But please no Ezio-like love story. This was just way too much...
edit2: I see, you neither meant Arno nor Elise...


I hope the whole cast gets guillotined and then they can tap dance, with their heads in their hands, as the credits roll.
Haha, just picturing this very scene right now. ;)

Kaschra
07-28-2014, 04:55 PM
It's too obvious with that cross. She has "Templar" written all over her :p
Mayrice was talking about Robespierre :P

SpiritOfNevaeh
07-28-2014, 04:57 PM
Mayrice was talking about Robespierre :P

Ah, my bad. Cant read properly xD

Well, I think he is a Templar, wanting to overthrow the leader and wanting to take control himself, yeah.

Xstantin
07-28-2014, 05:01 PM
Ah, my bad. Cant read properly xD

Happened to me this morning. I saw this 'Rogue' rumor, and was like 'Rouge?' What is it Templars in Moulin Rouge? Another redhead?" I should've gotten coffee first.

SpiritOfNevaeh
07-28-2014, 05:03 PM
Happened to me this morning. I saw this 'Rogue' rumor, and was like 'Rouge?' What is it Templars in Moulin Rouge? Another redhead?" I should've gotten coffee first.

Hilarious xD

.... TBH, I would love to see that :D

ze_topazio
07-28-2014, 05:08 PM
I'm surprised nobody misread it as "Elise: The Fairy Templar".

aL_____eX
07-28-2014, 05:11 PM
I'm surprised nobody misread it as "Elise: The Fairy Templar".
Plot twist confirmed.

ACfan443
07-28-2014, 05:14 PM
****ing LOL. They sculpted it so you can see her arse through her coat. Slow clap.

I laughed harder than I should have.

I-Like-Pie45
07-28-2014, 05:47 PM
Elise, you're all that I wanted of a girl
You're all that I need in the world
I'm your child
Make me blush, drive me wild
Elise, you're all that I wanted

When I met you I was all alone
Cold and hungry cryin' on the phone
You baked me crepes and said "don't you cry"
And gave me the coat off your back

Elise, you're all that I wanted of a girl
You're all that I need in the world
I'm your child
Make me blush, drive me wild
Elise, you're all that I wanted

Even Napoleon, Lafayette and Citizen Robespierre
When I call you put them all on hold
And say to me that you'd do anything
and all I can do is say that
I haven't much I can give you in return
Only my heart and a promise not to turn
But I'll sing to you every day and every night
Elise, I'm your man

Elise, you're all that I wanted of a girl
You're all that I need in the world
I'm your child
Make me blush, drive me wild
Elise, you're all that I wanted
Of a girl
YEAH!

aL_____eX
07-28-2014, 05:56 PM
Btw, you can now pre-order the life size version of Arno on Uplay.

http://drh1.img.digitalriver.com/DRHM/Storefront/Company/ubi/images/hero/Life-size-arno_hero_613x331.jpg (http://shop.ubi.com/store/ubiemea/pd/ThemeID.8605700/productID.305787300/Arno_Life_Size.html)

SHADOWGARVIN
07-28-2014, 05:58 PM
Ubisoft be like

http://38.media.tumblr.com/c5334ee34d3a7a8a2cc434aa915ed84b/tumblr_n8l7undEwp1trcl8mo1_400.gif
That gif is so awesome!!

m4r-k7
07-28-2014, 05:59 PM
I know right, cracks me up everytime

SHADOWGARVIN
07-28-2014, 06:02 PM
I know right, cracks me up everytime

Yeah, me too.

GunnerGalactico
07-28-2014, 06:29 PM
http://38.media.tumblr.com/0e188e500913c5be1932f0ba5dd97966/tumblr_n9e0epqjKn1rrr05co1_1280.jpg

http://33.media.tumblr.com/f13a1d16ca95e12d4bfea79eef794cba/tumblr_n9e0epqjKn1rrr05co2_1280.jpg

http://37.media.tumblr.com/f4ef8278c891146252876a6c6c61dc70/tumblr_n9e0epqjKn1rrr05co5_1280.jpg

http://37.media.tumblr.com/b139cf0941077860a9ced2e934b9496f/tumblr_n9e0epqjKn1rrr05co3_1280.jpg

http://38.media.tumblr.com/696d636de6552e3098c7b9ee352babff/tumblr_n9e0epqjKn1rrr05co6_1280.jpg

http://miss-dorian.tumblr.com/

I'm liking Elise already, she might be the most exciting female character yet :)

SpiritOfNevaeh
07-28-2014, 06:49 PM
Maybe Arno has to choose between the Assassins or her :p

pirate1802
07-28-2014, 06:58 PM
Nevertheless having a lady templar is good for cosplay :o

Not enough boobs for that to qualify for cosplays.

GunnerGalactico
07-28-2014, 06:59 PM
Maybe Arno has to choose between the Assassins or her :p

I hope the plot doesn't heavily revolve around that. :p

ze_topazio
07-28-2014, 07:04 PM
What is Rino doing on Twitter instead of being here?

jayjay275
07-28-2014, 07:13 PM
Maybe Connor will come and steal Elise from Arno, and he has to defeat Connor in order to get her back... That'd be quite a twist. It'd certainly give Connor freedom to express his strong desire for women.

Ureh
07-28-2014, 07:18 PM
Yeah this is a good thing cause they didn't really explore the Rhona+Hilary relationship all that much. So this is great.

As for the statue, it doesn't seem to measure up to the quality/detail of the Fearless Arno statue. Also her eyes seem to be missing the mascara.

SpiritOfNevaeh
07-28-2014, 07:26 PM
Maybe Connor will come and steal Elise from Arno, and he has to defeat Connor in order to get her back... That'd be quite a twist. It'd certainly give Connor freedom to express his strong desire for women.

Had to lol hard at this xD

m4r-k7
07-28-2014, 07:31 PM
Maybe Connor is Elise... he had a sex change after the events of AC 3... now that would be a twist

SpiritOfNevaeh
07-28-2014, 07:36 PM
Maybe Connor is Elise... he had a sex change after the events of AC 3... now that would be a twist

http://www.gifsoup.com/view2/1156151/shocked-spit-out-drink-o.gif

jayjay275
07-28-2014, 07:39 PM
Isn't odd how the only characters we know of in Unity as of now, are Arno and Elise?
Side note: Is it me, or does Niccolo Machiavelli look like Novak Djokovic.

rickprog
07-28-2014, 07:44 PM
We know Louis XVII, Marie Antoinette, Robespierre and Napoleon as well, although we lack detail on those and have only formerly seen Napoleon. Also the Templar woman that appeared on the first IGN video.

It seems there will be a rather interesting plot this time around. I do hope they focus on Arno's story like they're saying the game does. There's the redemption aspect, the huge attitude chance through the game, the Assassin/Templar love conflict and a lot more, most likely.

m4r-k7
07-28-2014, 07:45 PM
http://www.gifsoup.com/view2/1156151/shocked-spit-out-drink-o.gif

See look Connor and Elise's face morphed look similar. Definitely a sex change.

http://img.morphthing.com/i/81429136/2/0/3183e659/images-jpg--blH4iUA-png.jpeg

GunnerGalactico
07-28-2014, 07:52 PM
http://www.gifsoup.com/view2/1156151/shocked-spit-out-drink-o.gif

That would be my exact reaction :p

jeordievera
07-28-2014, 07:57 PM
See look Connor and Elise's face morphed look similar. Definitely a sex change.

http://img.morphthing.com/i/81429136/2/0/3183e659/images-jpg--blH4iUA-png.jpeg

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx8yru7XAc1qcq4to.gif

SpiritOfNevaeh
07-28-2014, 08:15 PM
See look Connor and Elise's face morphed look similar. Definitely a sex change.

http://img.morphthing.com/i/81429136/2/0/3183e659/images-jpg--blH4iUA-png.jpeg

Good Lord, what have you done? xD

m4r-k7
07-28-2014, 08:23 PM
Good Lord, what have you done? xD

I couldn't help myself haha

GunnerGalactico
07-28-2014, 08:23 PM
See look Connor and Elise's face morphed look similar. Definitely a sex change.

http://img.morphthing.com/i/81429136/2/0/3183e659/images-jpg--blH4iUA-png.jpeg

Aarrgghh! That's Robespierre! I knew there was a conspiracy going on here :eek:

Xstantin
07-28-2014, 08:24 PM
You guys got it wrong. Lafayette was the one who liked women clothing.

jeordievera
07-28-2014, 08:30 PM
You guys got it wrong. Lafayette was the one who liked women clothing.

But Connor replied something like that he would do the same if it was for greater good.. ;)

SpiritOfNevaeh
07-28-2014, 08:34 PM
Omg I remember him saying that. It all makes sense now!!! O___O;

m4r-k7
07-28-2014, 08:36 PM
Aarrgghh! That's Robespierre! I knew there was a conspiracy going on here :eek:

Wait wait wait, so Connor and Elise is Robespierre - he just switches between them! Guys, we have finally cracked Ubisofts conspiracy!

Xstantin
07-28-2014, 08:39 PM
Seriously though, Elise needs to get her own trailer. People seem to like her already.

m4r-k7
07-28-2014, 08:40 PM
Yea Elise / Connor definitely need their own trailer xD

Xstantin
07-28-2014, 08:43 PM
I wonder if she's the same woman who was fighting alongside Arno according to ComicCon trailer write-up. If she is the plot gets interesting.

Megas_Doux
07-28-2014, 08:55 PM
Another thread that went downhill....

In regards this girl being a love interest and a templar, it was kinda predictable given the fact games are released annually and the writers are running out of plots, see how it fares.....


In 2015/2016 we are going to have siblings, one templar and the other assassin. That is the other story left to use.

Kakuzu745
07-28-2014, 09:04 PM
Another thread that went downhill....

In regards this girl being a love interest and a templar, it was kinda predictable given the fact games are released annually and the writers are running out of plots, see how it fares.....


In 2015/2016 we are going to have siblings, one templar and the other assassin. That is the other story left to use.

Ya, this is one of my biggest fears when it comes to one or more games being released annually...I mean at some point the storytelling and the plot will probably start to suck unless they get REALLY creative :S

JustPlainQuirky
07-28-2014, 09:18 PM
A thread going off topic without me?

Sacrilege!

Jexx21
07-28-2014, 09:55 PM
hot

Locopells
07-28-2014, 10:03 PM
I give up...if they're just gonna hand out plot details like that...

Then again, I'm guessing it's not a big spoiler to the story.

I-Like-Pie45
07-28-2014, 10:04 PM
hey jexx n loco

want some french coffee?

JustPlainQuirky
07-28-2014, 10:07 PM
Next time they'll be like:

Arno's biological father was actually an assassin!
Arno and/or his close pal Elise get guillotined in the end!
The pocket watch is a piece of eden!

Jexx21
07-28-2014, 10:07 PM
maybe it's just me, but I don't see this as a large spoiler...

They don't ever really reveal the large stuff that actually matters (see Haytham being a Templar and not an Assassin, the stuff about the Sage in ACr).

Jexx21
07-28-2014, 10:20 PM
Next time they'll be like:

Arno's biological father was actually an assassin!
Arno and/or his close pal Elise get guillotined in the end!
The pocket watch is a piece of eden!
#1 would be fine and makes sense
I hope #2 and #3 don't happen. I actually find it unlikely that one of them will die by guillotine as well. Dying in the end? yes, I think that might happen, but I don't think it'll be by guillotine. That'll probably be his father(s).

rickprog
07-28-2014, 11:54 PM
It's a very relevant element of the story, so it's something that had to be mentioned in order to give a clearer idea of how the plot goes. We didn't know, for example, that Yusuf would die on ACR, or anything about Haytham's existence at all on AC3. I believe Ubisoft has been quite good at handling what to show or not before the game is released, and they wouldn't miss a step on this case. I do believe we'll get an Arno/Elise trailer sometime.

JustPlainQuirky
07-28-2014, 11:58 PM
Pretty sure the comic con trailer was the Arno/Elise trailer.

I-Like-Pie45
07-28-2014, 11:59 PM
what a tweest

rickprog
07-29-2014, 12:04 AM
@Mayrice I meant one showing some cutscenes and drama of the actual game.

Xstantin
07-29-2014, 12:18 AM
We still don't know about this lady, unless it's Elise, but to me they don't look similar. The trailer description didn't specify on her looks.

http://i.imgur.com/g8NJYtG.png

JustPlainQuirky
07-29-2014, 12:20 AM
to be fair final arno looks nothing like that one

I-Like-Pie45
07-29-2014, 12:22 AM
so you no longer want to give arno a smoochy, mayrice

JustPlainQuirky
07-29-2014, 12:31 AM
Nah not really.

I-Like-Pie45
07-29-2014, 12:33 AM
hoody woomun is probs charlotte corday and shell probs be dis ganes mary

Jexx21
07-29-2014, 12:39 AM
to be fair final arno looks nothing like that one
what are you talking about. comparing that concept art and Kevt's signature and avatar, they have the same exact facial structure and the lips are the same

JustPlainQuirky
07-29-2014, 12:43 AM
They don't look the same to me. That one looks like Alex Mercer. Official Arno does not. :p

Jexx21
07-29-2014, 12:51 AM
:rolleyes:

Xstantin
07-29-2014, 01:11 AM
Ubi's probably gonna change him even more anyway (ahem, Connor, Edward, Pierce). Nothing unusual :)

LoyalACFan
07-29-2014, 01:14 AM
to be fair final arno looks nothing like that one

His face is slightly different but the outfit is practically the exact same. I doubt Elise evolved from a hooded Assassin-looking figure to the "fiery Templar" in the time since that concept art was drawn.

Anyway, I'm very surprised they're making no secret of the fact that she's a Templar.

Xstantin
07-29-2014, 01:17 AM
Anyway, I'm very surprised they're making no secret of the fact that she's a Templar.

Possibly because there's another secret Templar/Sage/First-Civ-Loon.

I-Like-Pie45
07-29-2014, 01:19 AM
elise will probs bc assassin cuz her desire to bone arno overpowers desire to kill arno

JustPlainQuirky
07-29-2014, 04:13 AM
welcome to the forums :o

Namikaze_17
07-29-2014, 04:17 AM
I'm surprised anyone has seen/made the Comparison of Arno/Elise to Altair/ Maria.

Altair/Arno = Assassin
Elise/Maria = Templar
Coincidence Much?

And for all we know, Arno might Convert Elise......or vice versa.
( Good Twist Btw) or Elise....
( Like Maria) could leave on her own free will.

Besides, I think it's a strong possibility that she will die very by Arno or during some riot Arno can't save her from. But here's food for Thought.....

Does anyone think ARNO is gonna walk out of this alive?

I don't.

Namikaze_17
07-29-2014, 04:20 AM
Whatever Elise is, I just hope Ubisoft gives us a good show and a run for my money because Black flag was a letdown in the story department.

Also, I just pray to lord that the plot isn't Romeo/Juliet driven. There is so many stories/movies/tv series/etc. that are romance out there, I can't even-. So, it's Assassin's Creed; let's keep it meaningful and with feels. An Ezio/Christina would be perfect for me (maybe without the whole dying this time around, but hey it's Ubisoft.)

And Ezio/Christina wasn't AT ALL like Romeo & Juliet?

Ureh
07-29-2014, 04:29 AM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-EIjON7BlQ8w/U9ZginrsVkI/AAAAAAAABfY/4EHMvvg16jk/s1600/Elise_Figure_3.jpg

Must be a wip. There's no Templar cross yet.

JustPlainQuirky
07-29-2014, 04:31 AM
She could easily just be wearing a templar ring.

Jexx21
07-29-2014, 05:08 AM
Does anyone think ARNO is gonna walk out of this alive?

I don't.

Yes. Unless we see Arno die through his child's eyes.

SixKeys
07-29-2014, 06:32 AM
And Ezio/Christina wasn't AT ALL like Romeo & Juliet?

Not really. Only one of them died in the end and there was no huge feud between their families.

Jexx21
07-29-2014, 06:39 AM
I also don't think that Elise and Arno will be exactly like Romeo and Juliet considering that I think that they're step-siblings.

Namikaze_17
07-29-2014, 07:00 AM
Not really. Only one of them died in the end and there was no huge feud between their families.

That may be.....but alot of the moments were over-the-top "I LOVED YOU!" romeo and Juliet kind of stuff.

Namikaze_17
07-29-2014, 07:04 AM
I also don't think that Elise and Arno will be exactly like Romeo and Juliet considering that I think that they're step-siblings.

Elise looks like she's on the rich noble side of things......it could be a "Highly rich girl falls in love with a peasant." Cliche.
( Kinda like Edward and Caroline)

However, I don't think Arno's a peasant either, just not rich.

Jexx21
07-29-2014, 07:04 AM
So apparently this statue (Elise The Fiery Templar) is supposed to be paired with the statue "Arno The Fearless Assassin."
http://oi62.tinypic.com/2a5f4lg.jpg

Maybe what happens is that Arno and Elise decide to infiltrate the two orders in the beginning to find out what actually happened to their father, and these two statues are supposed to be from a time before Arno gains his Master Assassin gear (what we see in the current promotional art), and maybe the Comi-Con trailer shows them working together because they're step-siblings/lovers that are slowly drawn further and further apart as they advance in the separate orders.

http://drh1.img.digitalriver.com/DRHM/Storefront/Company/ubi/images/screenshots//E3reveal/ONRA428_S_1.jpghttp://drh2.img.digitalriver.com/DRHM/Storefront/Company/ubi/images/screenshots//E3reveal/ONRA428_S_6.jpg


Elise looks like she's on the rich noble side of things......it could be a "Highly rich girl falls in love with a peasant." Cliche.
( Kinda like Edward and Caroline)

However, I don't think Arno's a peasant either, just not rich.
It's pretty much confirmed that Arno grew up in nobility, pretty sure anyway. I'm betting that Arno and Elise are step siblings.

Xstantin
07-29-2014, 07:19 AM
It's pretty much confirmed that Arno grew up in nobility, pretty sure anyway. I'm betting that Arno and Elise are step siblings.

I'll put a spoiler just in case but
If Arno's stepfather was a Templar Grandmaster, I'm sure he was well off.

Namikaze_17
07-29-2014, 07:27 AM
@Jexx. Hmm....you're theory sounds intriguing......but also awkward if you think about it.

Arno in love with his stepsister?

Not weird, just awkward.....

Namikaze_17
07-29-2014, 07:33 AM
@Kev. I'm starting to get that assumption too......maybe it was him that killed Arno's Parents.

Xstantin
07-29-2014, 07:35 AM
It's been confirmed in Making of video anyway :) and my guess is that gives some weight to step-siblings theory.

Locopells
07-29-2014, 07:44 AM
I'll put a spoiler just in case but
If Arno's stepfather was a Templar Grandmaster, I'm sure he was well off.

I'll tag the whole thread just to be on the safe side.

Xstantin
07-29-2014, 07:50 AM
Great, thanks :D i tried to tag it but it was still showing up. Dunno why i messed up the tag.

Jexx21
07-29-2014, 07:54 AM
After realizing that I totally want this Elise statue and the Fearless Assassin Arno statue, I also realized that I've been wanting the "Connor the Hunter" statue ever since AC3 came out.

Ughhh money though

Legendz54
07-29-2014, 08:03 AM
I dont know what this is... Releasing major plot points to get people interested in the story and buy AC Unity, Or a reply to those who said Ubisoft are sexist..

Jexx21
07-29-2014, 08:05 AM
probably neither

This is more like something that would be on the summary of a book. it's like how we knew that Ezio's family was going to die before we played AC2 or how we knew Connor's mother would die.

Xstantin
07-29-2014, 08:10 AM
@Mani, now that you mention it I skimmed through Kotaku and Polygon (two places that posted several stories on the whole sexism thing) and Elise news is nowhere to be seen. Ironic in a way. I'll wait to see if Tumblr gets to it, but moral uproar is always more noble :rolleyes:

jeordievera
07-29-2014, 08:16 AM
Maybe what happens is that Arno and Elise decide to infiltrate the two orders in the beginning to find out what actually happened to their father, and these two statues are supposed to be from a time before Arno gains his Master Assassin gear (what we see in the current promotional art), and maybe the Comi-Con trailer shows them working together because they're step-siblings/lovers that are slowly drawn further and further apart as they advance in the separate orders.

It's pretty much confirmed that Arno grew up in nobility, pretty sure anyway. I'm betting that Arno and Elise are step siblings.

This is an interesting theory. They could be sibilings and Arno's love interest might be someone else..

Locopells
07-29-2014, 08:17 AM
Great, thanks :D i tried to tag it but it was still showing up. Dunno why i messed up the tag.

No probs. I dunno what they're playing at either. Even if it's revealed in the first five seconds, there's still people who won't want to know beforehand...

Legendz54
07-29-2014, 08:20 AM
This is an interesting theory. They could be sibilings and Arno's love interest might be someone else..

I thought it was a sibling but Ubisoft stated "Arno will have an interesting Love story" so Im almost sure its his Lover.

Jexx21
07-29-2014, 08:41 AM
I still say that they're step siblings and lovers.

I'm fairly certain that back in those times, male and female noble siblings didn't really interact much, so they wouldn't really form a "sibling" bond per se. Especially if Arno was adopted at an age that isn't very young (I'm thinking anywhere from 9-14).

jayjay275
07-29-2014, 09:34 AM
Romeo and Juliet story like Mayrice mentioned? :p

Lowly Assassin
07-29-2014, 09:47 AM
probably neither

This is more like something that would be on the summary of a book. it's like how we knew that Ezio's family was going to die before we played AC2 or how we knew Connor's mother would die.

What???
We knew all these people would die?
I had no clue these things would happen

Jexx21
07-29-2014, 09:54 AM
it was in the pre-release marketing

LoyalACFan
07-29-2014, 12:57 PM
Maybe what happens is that Arno and Elise decide to infiltrate the two orders in the beginning to find out what actually happened to their father, and these two statues are supposed to be from a time before Arno gains his Master Assassin gear (what we see in the current promotional art), and maybe the Comi-Con trailer shows them working together because they're step-siblings/lovers that are slowly drawn further and further apart as they advance in the separate orders.

The outfit in the statue is a ULC bonus for buying it. It comes with a redeemable code. to get that outfit in the game.

m4r-k7
07-29-2014, 12:59 PM
His outfit isn't his master assassin robes. He will probably become a master assassin at the end of the game. His current outfit is just his assassin robes.

D.I.D.
07-29-2014, 01:09 PM
@Mani, now that you mention it I skimmed through Kotaku and Polygon (two places that posted several stories on the whole sexism thing) and Elise news is nowhere to be seen. Ironic in a way. I'll wait to see if Tumblr gets to it, but moral uproar is always more noble :rolleyes:

Why should they? Is it somehow anti-sexist to put a woman into a game as an NPC? Why should they write a celebratory article about another pretty white woman in a game?

We don't know anything about her yet. She might be nothing more than an accessory for the male hero, as usual, or someone whose death is used as fuel for some fumbling attempt at character development (as Ubisoft has done many times and continues to do).

Gin0r
07-29-2014, 03:24 PM
Why should they? Is it somehow anti-sexist to put a woman into a game as an NPC? Why should they write a celebratory article about another pretty white woman in a game?

We don't know anything about her yet. She might be nothing more than an accessory for the male hero, as usual, or someone whose death is used as fuel for some fumbling attempt at character development (as Ubisoft has done many times and continues to do).

Watch_Dogs Spoilers ahead!!
Seconded, I’m so tired of the Women in Refrigerators trope... especially if it’s executed as badly as in Watch_Dogs (seriously? first his niece and then Clara? I was almost surprised Aiden’s sister survived the game), although the writing in this game was pretty bad all over imo

Hassassiyin
07-29-2014, 03:43 PM
Can anyone explain to me how they know her name is Elise?
How they know she's a Templar?
was there a Comic Con trailer? If so, what was shown?
What else do we know about her at this point?
If someone could provide link as sources, that would be great thanks.

D.I.D.
07-29-2014, 03:44 PM
Watch_Dogs Spoilers ahead!!
Seconded, I’m so tired of the Women in Refrigerators trope... especially if it’s executed as badly as in Watch_Dogs (seriously? first his niece and then Clara? I was almost surprised Aiden’s sister survived the game), although the writing in this game was pretty bad all over imo

Exactly what I was thinking of.

It could have been something like this instead:

... Aiden speeds to the cemetery, admitting to himself along the way that he's beyond redemption at this point - that everything he'd done to correct a wrong had resulted in the deaths of many more people, affecting many more families, and that in no way could this be seen to be about grief anymore. He'd allowed something to become personal, and used his niece's death as carte blanche to indulge his ego in the "Vigiliante" persona. He runs into the graveyard at the exact moment that the gang appears. The gang's leader changes the orders, and all turn their guns on Aiden. The Focus thing happens as before, the player thins out the numbers of gunmen as much as possible, but Aiden's death is inevitable.

Player camera moves from behind Aiden to Clara. The player realises they are in charge of Clara now. She's unarmed, so you need to use the cover of the gravestones to get to Aiden's body and pick up his guns (or just escape, if you want). From then until the end of the story, you'd be in Clara's shoes, figuring out how to get revenge against Quinn and Brenks for what he'd done to both of them, which would add real impetus to the game's end.

This switch would be a genuinely dramatic moment. The player would have just witnessed the death of the last person they'd expect to see die, and in circumstances that would be genuinely disorientating at first, making that moment in the graveyard feel properly chaotic.

Instead we had a story that made Clara's very minor "crime" of selling out Aiden before she ever knew him into an act punishable by death, even though Aiden had been doing awful things throughout the game and often for Fixers he'd never seen against people whose guilt was unclear. I enjoyed the game moment-by-moment, but because I never cared about or was interested in Aiden, I had no interest in the overarching plot and the last quarter of the game held no sting for me at all.

Gin0r
07-29-2014, 03:50 PM
Exactly what I was thinking of.

It could have been something like this instead:

... Aiden sped to the cemetery, admitting to himself along the way that he's beyond redemption at this point - that everything he'd done to correct a wrong had resulted in the deaths of many more people, affecting many more families, and that in no way could this be seen to be about grief anymore. He'd allowed something to become personal, and used his niece's death as carte blanche to indulge his ego in the "Vigiliante" persona. He runs into the graveyard at the exact moment that the gang appears. The gang's leader changes the orders, and all turn their guns on Aiden. The Focus thing happens as before, the player thins out the numbers of gunmen as much as possible, but Aiden's death is inevitable.

Player camera moves from behind Aiden to Clara. The player realises they are in charge of Clara now. She's unarmed, so you need to use the cover of the gravestones to get to Aiden's body and pick up his guns (or just escape, if you want). From then until the end of the story, you'd be in Clara's shoes, figuring out how to get revenge against Quinn and Brenks for what he'd done to both of them, and add real impetus to the game's end.

This switch would be a genuinely dramatic moment. The player would have just witnessed the death of the last person they'd expect to see die, and in circumstances that would be genuinely disorientating at first, making that moment in the graveyard feel properly chaotic.

Instead we had a story that made Clara's very minor "crime" of selling out Aiden before she ever knew him into an act punishable by death, even though Aiden had been doing awful things throughout the game and often for Fixers he'd never seen against people whose guilt was unclear, and left Aiden as the winner. I enjoyed the game moment by moment, but because I never cared about or was interested in Aiden, I had no interest in the overarching plot and the last quarter of the game held no sting for me at all.

Great read! That would’ve been awesome!

ze_topazio
07-29-2014, 03:58 PM
After realizing that I totally want this Elise statue and the Fearless Assassin Arno statue, I also realized that I've been wanting the "Connor the Hunter" statue ever since AC3 came out.

Ughhh money though

I've been wanting an Altair statue since 2007, I still don't have it. http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/4717/sanjiicon.png

lothario-da-be
07-29-2014, 04:05 PM
Every year, around October for some reason I don't have any money left...

Jexx21
07-29-2014, 08:10 PM
I've been wanting an Altair statue since 2007, I still don't have it. http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/4717/sanjiicon.png
there's one coming out sometime soon
"Altair The Legendary Assassin"

just google it

http://drh2.img.digitalriver.com/DRHM/Storefront/Company/ubi/images/screenshots/ALTAIR_S3.jpg

Dome500
07-29-2014, 08:13 PM
She reminds me of Anne Bonny, minus the cleavage :D
I have no idea what's with Ubi and redheads..

See, that's what I like about Ubi, they have the same taste in women I have ;)


As for the character, is it too much to hope that she won't be an utterly cheap emotional device like Clara in Watch Dogs?

100% agreed. I don't know but women in Ubi games are always just a way to create an emotional plot-twist.....

Xstantin
07-29-2014, 08:14 PM
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140729185843/assassinscreed/images/4/48/Unity_novel.jpg

Not a quality pic, but I guess it makes sense to post it here.

LoyalACFan
07-29-2014, 08:18 PM
Exactly what I was thinking of.

It could have been something like this instead:

... Aiden speeds to the cemetery, admitting to himself along the way that he's beyond redemption at this point - that everything he'd done to correct a wrong had resulted in the deaths of many more people, affecting many more families, and that in no way could this be seen to be about grief anymore. He'd allowed something to become personal, and used his niece's death as carte blanche to indulge his ego in the "Vigiliante" persona. He runs into the graveyard at the exact moment that the gang appears. The gang's leader changes the orders, and all turn their guns on Aiden. The Focus thing happens as before, the player thins out the numbers of gunmen as much as possible, but Aiden's death is inevitable.

Player camera moves from behind Aiden to Clara. The player realises they are in charge of Clara now. She's unarmed, so you need to use the cover of the gravestones to get to Aiden's body and pick up his guns (or just escape, if you want). From then until the end of the story, you'd be in Clara's shoes, figuring out how to get revenge against Quinn and Brenks for what he'd done to both of them, which would add real impetus to the game's end.

This switch would be a genuinely dramatic moment. The player would have just witnessed the death of the last person they'd expect to see die, and in circumstances that would be genuinely disorientating at first, making that moment in the graveyard feel properly chaotic.

Instead we had a story that made Clara's very minor "crime" of selling out Aiden before she ever knew him into an act punishable by death, even though Aiden had been doing awful things throughout the game and often for Fixers he'd never seen against people whose guilt was unclear. I enjoyed the game moment-by-moment, but because I never cared about or was interested in Aiden, I had no interest in the overarching plot and the last quarter of the game held no sting for me at all.

It's a little too Red Dead for me :p but I agree that Clara's death was senselessly added just for the sake of "feels". I don't even really have a problem with her dying if it would have been done differently, but the way it was done was just so clumsy and stupidly convenient.

Xstantin
07-29-2014, 08:26 PM
Why should they? Is it somehow anti-sexist to put a woman into a game as an NPC? Why should they write a celebratory article about another pretty white woman in a game?

We don't know anything about her yet. She might be nothing more than an accessory for the male hero, as usual, or someone whose death is used as fuel for some fumbling attempt at character development (as Ubisoft has done many times and continues to do).

Just went back and read this bit, sorry. Still, do you really think it makes sense to churn several articles based solely on some superficial info without later clarification?

LoyalACFan
07-29-2014, 08:33 PM
Just went back and read this bit, sorry. Still, do you really think it makes sense to churn several articles based solely on some superficial info without later clarification?

I think it was right to call them out when it was believed that there were four white male protagonists, but once it was clarified that they were all Arno that should have been the end of it.

Nic727
07-29-2014, 08:34 PM
Where can we buy this figurine?

Dome500
07-29-2014, 08:35 PM
Btw. do we know Elises family name?
Because I found something interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89lise_la_Flotte


I'm surprised anyone has seen/made the Comparison of Arno/Elise to Altair/ Maria.


Yeah me too.

There are seriously so many signs showing Unity as spiritual successor of AC1 that I can't ignore them all.


I also don't think that Elise and Arno will be exactly like Romeo and Juliet considering that I think that they're step-siblings.

Tough the one thing contradicting this would be that the Ubisoft twitter account posted there will be a complicated love story in ACU.


It's been confirmed in Making of video anyway and my guess is that gives some weight to step-siblings theory.

Seriously where is your source for that step-siblings theory?
I mean it's not akward IMO as long as they are not blood related. And it's also nothing that never happened before.
Also it might make sense, after all Arno has an adoptive father after his biological father died....

But is there any indication that they are step-siblings ?

D.I.D.
07-29-2014, 08:35 PM
Just went back and read this bit, sorry. Still, do you really think it makes sense to churn several articles based solely on some superficial info without later clarification?

I don't know what that means. They made a lot of fuss out of the developers' own statements, and I think they were right to do so. I want to see change in this industry, and I don't think Ubisoft deserves a pat on the back every time they throw in a member of 51% of the world's population - that's what they're supposed to do, when representing humanity. Elise's existence actually flies in the face of the CD's claims that creating animations would take a lot of time, so this might pose more questions than it answers.

Kotaku did cover her role, anyway http://kotaku.com/looks-like-theres-a-female-assassin-in-the-newest-ac-u-1608659281

Nic727
07-29-2014, 08:38 PM
Hi,

I know they mentionned a lot of time that they will not put female character in the game because it require more work. But now with the new trailer, we know that Elise will be a character in AC Unity, but what about making it playable in some coop mission? They already have the texture, movement, etc.

what do you think?

JustPlainQuirky
07-29-2014, 08:40 PM
You always play as Arno in co-op

but maybe she'll be playable in DLC.

Xstantin
07-29-2014, 08:40 PM
Oh, ok. I didn't see it yesterday by the time I wrote that.

Jexx21
07-29-2014, 08:46 PM
Kevt I love your new signature. Can you link me to where you got that Arno render?

rprkjj
07-29-2014, 08:49 PM
I don't know what that means. They made a lot of fuss out of the developers' own statements, and I think they were right to do so. I want to see change in this industry, and I don't think Ubisoft deserves a pat on the back every time they throw in a member of 51% of the world's population - that's what they're supposed to do, when representing humanity. Elise's existence actually flies in the face of the CD's claims that creating animations would take a lot of time, so this might pose more questions than it answers.

Kotaku did cover her role, anyway http://kotaku.com/looks-like-theres-a-female-assassin-in-the-newest-ac-u-1608659281

They weren't representing humanity, they were making a game.

SHADOWGARVIN
07-29-2014, 08:53 PM
Hi,

I know they mentionned a lot of time that they will not put female character in the game because it require more work. But now with the new trailer, we know that Elise will be a character in AC Unity, but what about making it playable in some coop mission? They already have the texture, movement, etc.

what do you think?

They have explained this many times.

Xstantin
07-29-2014, 08:53 PM
@jexx, sure. Just let me look it up. And thanks :)

Fatal-Feit
07-29-2014, 08:55 PM
but maybe she'll be playable in DLC.

I'd buy the season pass for that.

AherasSTRG
07-29-2014, 08:55 PM
Maybe she will be in a DLC. I wish that happens.

However, I am well aware of the *****ing that will follow such an announcement. "Οοooh, Greedy Ubisoft, need to pay for Season Pass to play as female" #sogreedy #hipster #lovemileycyrus

XxDaRthXR3DxX
07-29-2014, 08:58 PM
Hi,

I know they mentionned a lot of time that they will not put female character in the game because it require more work. But now with the new trailer, we know that Elise will be a character in AC Unity, but what about making it playable in some coop mission? They already have the texture, movement, etc.

what do you think?

Yea I think she will be playable but I think that she will have her own campaign like adewale from assassins creed black flag and T-bone from watchdogs.

Jexx21
07-29-2014, 08:59 PM
Elise is getting Unity's book.

"oh no, Arno is another Connor!"

CoachAssassin
07-29-2014, 08:59 PM
I know they do this with more characters but the fact that they don't drop her last name makes me have this gut-feeling that she is related to someone important in the game. Everybody seems to draw the conclusion that she's a love interest of Arno but with the possibility of her being related to an important person in the game - could it be his stepsister perhaps? Seems rather logical, Assassin born kid grows up with templars, becomes tight with his stepsister, stepdad dies and both go their own way, but still having this tight relationship. They could be the connecting factors in a unity on a larger scale between temps and assassins. I hear a lot of people say that this has been done in AC3 already, but not really if I remember. Haytham is basically eyeing Connor and looking if he is able to recruit him to the templars, stating stuff about their ideals. Sure, it created a grey area, but this game might very well give Templars a victory to remove the entire definition of good and bad in the game, Just my thoughts.


Also I don't know if this has been discussed before but the fact that they put heavy emphasis on the fact that he is half Austrian half French could be an important plot detail :)!

SHADOWGARVIN
07-29-2014, 09:01 PM
Maybe she will be in a DLC. I wish that happens.

However, I am well aware of the *****ing that will follow such an announcement. "Οοooh, Greedy Ubisoft, need to pay for Season Pass to play as female" #sogreedy #hipster #lovemileycyrus

Hahaha. You made me laugh!! #mileycyrus

rprkjj
07-29-2014, 09:03 PM
I know they do this with more characters but the fact that they don't drop her last name makes me have this gut-feeling that she is related to someone important in the game. Everybody seems to draw the conclusion that she's a love interest of Arno but with the possibility of her being related to an important person in the game - could it be his stepsister perhaps? Seems rather logical, Assassin born kid grows up with templars, becomes tight with his stepsister, stepdad dies and both go their own way, but still having this tight relationship. They could be the connecting factors in a unity on a larger scale between temps and assassins. I hear a lot of people say that this has been done in AC3 already, but not really if I remember. Haytham is basically eyeing Connor and looking if he is able to recruit him to the templars, stating stuff about their ideals. Sure, it created a grey area, but this game might very well give Templars a victory to remove the entire definition of good and bad in the game, Just my thoughts.


Also I don't know if this has been discussed before but the fact that they put heavy emphasis on the fact that he is half Austrian half French could be an important plot detail :)!

I thought that as well. Also I think this is an entirely different thing then Haytham and Connor. Templar dad does not equal Templar adopted dad and Templar love interest, so I have no issue with that.

Fatal-Feit
07-29-2014, 09:05 PM
Well... I guess not all Assassins have to save a girl because of their wankers.

Jexx21
07-29-2014, 09:05 PM
Yea, Elise being Arno's step-sister is a popular theory around here.

I think that when their (step)father dies, they find some information and realize that they're connected to the Templars and the Assassins. So they decide to join the groups to find out more about what's going on and either get revenge or redeem their father(s), or the orders and unite them or something (maybe Arno's real father (Assassin) and his step-father (Templar) were trying to unite the two orders and they didn't want that so both were killed), and Arno joins the Assassins and Elise the Templars because I'm pretty sure that both families have deep roots in those orders (Arno's with the Assassins and Elise's with the Templars).

CoachAssassin
07-29-2014, 09:07 PM
Yea, Elise being Arno's step-sister is a popular theory around here.

I think that when their (step)father dies, they find some information and realize that they're connected to the Templars and the Assassins. So they decide to join the groups to find out more about what's going on and either get revenge or redeem their father(s), or the orders and unite them or something (maybe Arno's real father (Assassin) and his step-father (Templar) were trying to unite the two orders and they didn't want that so both were killed), and Arno joins the Assassins and Elise the Templars because I'm pretty sure that both families have deep roots in those orders (Arno's with the Assassins and Elise's with the Templars).


This would actually be a great story from writers perspective, bravo!

SHADOWGARVIN
07-29-2014, 09:08 PM
Yea, Elise being Arno's step-sister is a popular theory around here.

I think that when their (step)father dies, they find some information and realize that they're connected to the Templars and the Assassins. So they decide to join the groups to find out more about what's going on and either get revenge or redeem their father(s), or the orders and unite them or something (maybe Arno's real father (Assassin) and his step-father (Templar) were trying to unite the two orders and they didn't want that so both were killed), and Arno joins the Assassins and Elise the Templars because I'm pretty sure that both families have deep roots in those orders (Arno's with the Assassins and Elise's with the Templars).

This could very well be what's going to happen.

rprkjj
07-29-2014, 09:11 PM
Yea, Elise being Arno's step-sister is a popular theory around here.

I think that when their (step)father dies, they find some information and realize that they're connected to the Templars and the Assassins. So they decide to join the groups to find out more about what's going on and either get revenge or redeem their father(s), or the orders and unite them or something (maybe Arno's real father (Assassin) and his step-father (Templar) were trying to unite the two orders and they didn't want that so both were killed), and Arno joins the Assassins and Elise the Templars because I'm pretty sure that both families have deep roots in those orders (Arno's with the Assassins and Elise's with the Templars).

That would be very interesting. Although it'd be pretty odd for Arno to join the assassins just to get information.

Megas_Doux
07-29-2014, 09:11 PM
Yep!

I am also thinking Elise might be Arno´s step sister and, why not, Desmond´s ancestor.......

Jexx21
07-29-2014, 09:18 PM
I doubt it, because if Elise and Arno get together that would mean Arno would be an ancestor of Desmond, and that was already said to not be the case. I think they're unconnected to Desmond other than being in the Assassin/Templar conflict.

JustPlainQuirky
07-29-2014, 09:21 PM
Well... I guess not all Assassins have to save a girl because of their wankers.

Oh god, lol.

Megas_Doux
07-29-2014, 09:27 PM
I doubt it, because if Elise and Arno get together that would mean Arno would be an ancestor of Desmond, and that was already said to not be the case. I think they're unconnected to Desmond other than being in the Assassin/Templar conflict.

Why???????

My niece would NOT being able to access my memories using the regular animus, only my sister´s and her father, and my father, and my mother, but NOT mine´s......So there is NO problem if Elise is his Stepsister.

Desmond had an ancestor in the French Revolution, I know is "too convinient", but it could be Elise.

Xstantin
07-29-2014, 09:32 PM
^New Animus, new rules :p

Jexx21
07-29-2014, 09:37 PM
Why???????

My niece would NOT being able to access my memories using the regular animus, only my sister´s and her father, and my father, and my mother, but NOT mine´s......So there is NO problem if Elise is his Stepsister.

Desmond had an ancestor in the French Revolution, I know is "too convinient", but it could be Elise.

Because Elise and Arno would be together? If Elise and Arno had a child together, that child would have both Elise's and Arno's memories.

AherasSTRG
07-29-2014, 09:39 PM
What if we are trying to find Desmond's ancestor throughout the whole game? You know, instead of a PoE, this time, we are after a man or a woman...

Megas_Doux
07-29-2014, 09:42 PM
Because Elise and Arno would be together? If Elise and Arno had a child together, that child would have both Elise's and Arno's memories.


EW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Incest would be just TOOO awkward! My theory is, same as the OP, them being step siblings NOOOOOOOOOOOOT lovers.

AherasSTRG
07-29-2014, 09:46 PM
EW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Incest would be just TOOO awkward! My theory is, same as the OP, them being step siblings NOOOOOOOOOOOOT lovers.

Why not both?

If his stepfather kept him apart from his daughter, then it would work fine.

Jexx21
07-29-2014, 09:46 PM
It's not incest if they're step-siblings.. They aren't related by blood.

aL_____eX
07-29-2014, 09:46 PM
Yea, Elise being Arno's step-sister is a popular theory around here.

I think that when their (step)father dies, they find some information and realize that they're connected to the Templars and the Assassins. So they decide to join the groups to find out more about what's going on and either get revenge or redeem their father(s), or the orders and unite them or something (maybe Arno's real father (Assassin) and his step-father (Templar) were trying to unite the two orders and they didn't want that so both were killed), and Arno joins the Assassins and Elise the Templars because I'm pretty sure that both families have deep roots in those orders (Arno's with the Assassins and Elise's with the Templars).
Well, that would be an awesome story!

Every man's dream, to have a hot step-sister who is also a member of the opposite order. :rolleyes:

JustPlainQuirky
07-29-2014, 09:47 PM
EW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Incest would be just TOOO awkward! My theory is, same as the OP, them being step siblings NOOOOOOOOOOOOT lovers.

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Sounds progressive if you ask me.

JustPlainQuirky
07-29-2014, 09:52 PM
Got somethin' against being progressive, Megas? A japanese friend of mine is married to her cousin legally in japan. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Xstantin
07-29-2014, 09:53 PM
Back at that time lots of nobles were practically marrying their cousins.

Jexx21
07-29-2014, 09:53 PM
And incestuous relationships were common in nobility back then...

Megas_Doux
07-29-2014, 09:53 PM
It's not incest if they're step-siblings.. They aren't related by blood.

It is still considered Incest

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incest

Incest is sexual activity between family members or close relatives.[1][2] This typically includes sexual activity between people in a consanguineous relationship (blood relations), and sometimes those related by affinity, such as members of the same household, step relatives, those related by adoption or marriage, or members of the same clan or lineage.[3]

GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!


( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Sounds progressive if you ask me.



Too much Tumblr........

JustPlainQuirky
07-29-2014, 09:58 PM
We are entering a new age of social acceptance I tell you

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/148983/3848143-3080709775-tumbl.gif

What, I'm not weird.

But being serious, I don't think there's any evidence of Elise being Arno's step-sister.

Xstantin
07-29-2014, 10:01 PM
Oh come on, step siblings in love is relatively tame, compared to other things you see in fiction today. One thing is certain, if that theory is true, Arno will certainly leave an impression, I'd expect more pitchforks.

AherasSTRG
07-29-2014, 10:01 PM
She must be. And the game will be renamed to Assassin's Creed Fifty Shades of White....

The number of levels in which what I just said makes no sense is so damn high!

JustPlainQuirky
07-29-2014, 10:02 PM
Yeah EliseXArno aint nearly as bad as ConHayth

amiright? *snort*

Edit: Someone deleted a post and now it looks like I double posted hnghh

Xstantin
07-29-2014, 10:07 PM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lykwd0ymc61qfhcak.png

Fatal-Feit
07-29-2014, 10:08 PM
desuincestdesu

http://i62.tinypic.com/9bdmch.jpg

I-Like-Pie45
07-29-2014, 10:12 PM
Siblings actually would make ideal lovers, when you think about it.

Besides yourself, who knows you as well as a sibling?

GoldenBoy9999
07-29-2014, 10:41 PM
So apparently "You may not post attachments".It won't show the little image and video icon :(

Anyway, Groundbreaking Revelation Guys! Arno and Elise's statues connect!

I'll try... https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aMODR7bJyYU/U9fxOZQaUyI/AAAAAAAAHsg/GpHvb5QrIgc/s460/Untitled.jpg
Here's another... https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aMODR7bJyYU/U9fxOZQaUyI/AAAAAAAAHsg/GpHvb5QrIgc/s460/Untitled.jpg

Text to read while viewing image:the front (where Arno's sword is pointing) and where Arno is looking
connects to the front (where Elise's gun is pointing) and where she is looking

So Arno is pointing his sword at Elise and Elise has her gun pulled on Arno. They have a pretty complicated relationship. Check the images of Elise's base. There's a discolored strip where they go together. I'm happy I could help!

Edit: it worked but the little toolbar above the text box isn't there...

JustPlainQuirky
07-29-2014, 10:43 PM
oh god they're pointing the weapons AT each other? I thought they were DEFENDING each other!

OOOOOH NOOOOOES :eek:

Edit: imma wait to see them together for real first tho.

Jexx21
07-29-2014, 10:47 PM
We already knew that those statues were a pair that were supposed to be combined.

m4r-k7
07-29-2014, 10:48 PM
I don't think they are meant to be fighting. They are working side by side.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtvdvZqIEAEXlFv.jpg

aL_____eX
07-29-2014, 10:49 PM
I don't think they point their weapons at each other. If the figures stand in the right angle, they will point them past each other.

JustPlainQuirky
07-29-2014, 10:51 PM
Goooooooooooooooooooooood.

Those two remind me of triss and geralt. they need to stay together. oh god i ship them already

I-Like-Pie45
07-29-2014, 10:51 PM
This is going to end in tra-gee-dee, Mayrice

You know it.

Now give me a bone.

JustPlainQuirky
07-29-2014, 10:53 PM
Yeah Elise is prolly going to die.

Especially since she has her own book. :rolleyes:

her or arno. or both. :p

would be mildly surprised if both survived

m4r-k7
07-29-2014, 10:53 PM
Now give me a bone.

that means 2 things

masterfenix2009
07-29-2014, 10:54 PM
I doubt Elise is Desmond's ancestor, but didn't they say in AC4 in one of the emails that Desmond had a female ancestor in the French Revolution. Since Abstergo Entertainment were looking for fun actiony things for people to buy, could that ancestor play an important role?

m4r-k7
07-29-2014, 10:55 PM
Arno will die I reckon then they will rewind time and let us free roam

I-Like-Pie45
07-29-2014, 10:56 PM
what if arno dies and we play as elise lyk jack marston after credits in free woam

m4r-k7
07-29-2014, 10:57 PM
RIP John Marston

I-Like-Pie45
07-29-2014, 10:58 PM
jack is better marston than john

m4r-k7
07-29-2014, 10:58 PM
how.....how dare u

sem1rek
07-29-2014, 11:02 PM
They said he has ancestor from French revolution in matrilineal line, not female ancestor.

I-Like-Pie45
07-29-2014, 11:02 PM
John is basically just an errand boy who does everything everyone tells him to, like Connor. See - it all starts when FBI is like hey John arrest these people for me. Then Bonny is like hey John herd these cows for me. Then the Marshal is like hey John arrest these people for me. Then Nigel West ****ens is like hey John scam these people for me. Then Seth is like hey John help find treasure for me. Then Irish is like hey John help me be a badly written character. Then in Mexico Colonel Allende is like hey John help kill rebels for me. Then the Rebels are like no way hey John help us overthrow Allende. Then afterwards Dutch is like hey John the FBI is only going to to turn on you but John is like no way I have to save my family! Then the FBI are like hey John your free. Then John's wife and Uncle are like hey John help farm for us. Then Bonny comes back and is like hey John help me herd some more cows. Then Jack is like hey daddy I just want to do what I want to do. But John is like no you idiot you got pwned by a grizzly bear you are a disgrace that will never be anything worthwhile. Then ded.


Jack, unlike John, actually has an initiative of his own - making him a better character than John in spite of all the daddy issues

SpiritOfNevaeh
07-29-2014, 11:07 PM
From UbiBlog:

http://blog.ubi.com/assassins-creed-unity-elise-reveal-trailer/

Meet Elise, the young Templar woman seeking to make her own way in her organization in the midst of the chaotic French Revolution. Assassin’s Creed has always been rich with unique, fascinating characters – Assassins, Templars and historical figures. Amid the brutality and behind-the-scenes war raging during Assassin’s Creed Unity, Master Assassin Arno Dorian and this mysterious woman meet and form a rather unlikely bond. Get your first look at Elise in this new CG trailer.

In addition to the game, Elise will star in the next Assassin’s Creed novel by Oliver Bowden, also titled Assassin’s Creed Unity. This tale follows Elise and is told from her point of view as she and Arno are pulled into the feud between the Templars and the Assassins. Every story has multiple sides. Expand your adventure and see the world from two very different perspectives.

http://blog.ubi.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Assassins_Creed_Unity_Elise_1406641575.jpg

~~~~~

I'm thinking two things:

1. It says they just meet so they probably don't know each other closely.

2. Now the novel is in HER perspective and even may be fighting alongside him? This is really making me start to think that Ubisoft is doing all this to respond to the female controversy.

JustPlainQuirky
07-29-2014, 11:09 PM
mmmmmmm Elise is awesome so far pls dont disappoint...

SpiritOfNevaeh
07-29-2014, 11:11 PM
mmmmmmm Elise is awesome so far pls dont disappoint...

Lets hope not.

I-Like-Pie45
07-29-2014, 11:13 PM
mmmmmmm Elise is awesome so far pls dont disappoint...

Probably.

Xstantin
07-29-2014, 11:15 PM
Let's see if Oliver Bowden can pull off female POV, otherwise Elise looks awesome :D

I-Like-Pie45
07-29-2014, 11:16 PM
Oliver Bowden is a terrible writer no better than your generic fangirl on Fanfiction.net for the most part so don't get your hopes up

JustPlainQuirky
07-29-2014, 11:18 PM
Oliver Bowden's writing is fairly standard.

Not lying when I say TTW captured AC characters' personalities better.

That being said he's not a poor writer. He does enough to get the job done and deliver feels.

And to be fair I was invested while reading Forsaken, but that's primarily because I was already invested in the characters.

SpiritOfNevaeh
07-29-2014, 11:22 PM
Oliver Bowden's writing is fairly standard.

Not lying when I say TTW captured AC characters' personalities better.

That being said he's not a poor writer. He does enough to get the job done and deliver feels.

And to be fair I was invested while reading Forsaken, but that's primarily because I was already invested in the characters.

Agreed. I'm almost done with the book and I never wanted to finish a book so much, because I don't like reading, unless I was pulled into it, and Forsaken is doing just that :)

m4r-k7
07-29-2014, 11:39 PM
Elise is Connor's wife. Arno falls in love with her and Connor goes on a massive killing spree and kills Arno. The end.

I-Like-Pie45
07-29-2014, 11:40 PM
That would probs be a better story than most of Bowden's novels

Xstantin
07-29-2014, 11:40 PM
@m4r, but but we were told that Arno is 'the deadliest yet'

m4r-k7
07-29-2014, 11:42 PM
nah Arno is the most "seamless" assassin yet

Jexx21
07-29-2014, 11:43 PM
2. Now the novel is in HER perspective and even may be fighting alongside him? This is really making me start to think that Ubisoft is doing all this to respond to the female controversy.

Yea because they totally did all of this within that time period.

I doubt it, this would have had to be part of the story for a while.

I-Like-Pie45
07-29-2014, 11:44 PM
@m4r, but but we were told that Arno is 'the deadliest yet'

Keep in mind this is the french were talking about

They aren't exactly known for winning in the long run

Even Desmond could kick his tushie

LoyalACFan
07-29-2014, 11:54 PM
Yeah, I'd bet she gets her own DLC a la Freedom Cry.

m4r-k7
07-29-2014, 11:55 PM
Connor DLC

Xstantin
07-29-2014, 11:58 PM
@Pie, still he got some Austrian genes could be something
@Jexx, nice new sig there

JustPlainQuirky
07-29-2014, 11:58 PM
Connor DLC

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ErIHFtEZHhA/UB5ojUXSNaI/AAAAAAAACGU/eA0wS0AhEyA/s1600/crying-indian.gif

hamNdoritos
07-29-2014, 11:58 PM
Maybe she is Comet.

Xstantin
07-30-2014, 12:00 AM
Fiery Rogue Comet

I-Like-Pie45
07-30-2014, 12:00 AM
@Pie, still he got some Austrian genes could be something
@Jexx, nice new sig there

He will still be taken down by a union between Connor, Haytham, and Nikolai. Just like Austrian madmen always will be.

Locopells
07-30-2014, 12:01 AM
https://twitter.com/AccessTheAnimus/status/494194194798628865/photo/1

GoldenBoy9999
07-30-2014, 12:01 AM
I don't think they are meant to be fighting. They are working side by side.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtvdvZqIEAEXlFv.jpg

Alright I did a search for that image and I couldn't find it so I don't know how you got it. Also some sites have been saying the release date is October 14 for the Elise statue. I think that maybe you could combine them both ways, fighting and together because they are on warring factions. I've been looking at the bases and trying to figure out how they connect in this image you showed. I guess I should leave the news to you guys because it seems like you all already know it.

JustPlainQuirky
07-30-2014, 12:01 AM
I just noticed AC Unity is kinda technically union of assassins and templars with elise/arno.

not the union i was hoping for tho. I wanted a non-romantic non-blood related one.

oh well beggers can't be choosers. maybe another time

m4r-k7
07-30-2014, 12:03 AM
Alright I did a search for that image and I couldn't find it so I don't know how you got it. Also some sites have been saying the release date is October 14 for the Elise statue. I think that maybe you could combine them both ways, fighting and together because they are on warring factions. I've been looking at the bases and trying to figure out how they connect in this image you showed. I guess I should leave the news to you guys because it seems like you all already know it.

It was on Cript Assassins twitter page

GoldenBoy9999
07-30-2014, 12:09 AM
Alright thanks m4r-k7. I followed them. It seems like it would have popped up on Google though.

SixKeys
07-30-2014, 01:28 AM
Some people clearly have no idea what Romeo & Juliet is actually about.

I-Like-Pie45
07-30-2014, 01:29 AM
Some people clearly have no idea what Romeo & Juliet is actually about.

young people shouldn't trust their sexual impulses so much

LoyalACFan
07-30-2014, 01:34 AM
Some people clearly have no idea what Romeo & Juliet is actually about.

Lol yeah. It's like they think any game/film/play/book that has a love story is a ripoff of Romeo and Juliet, even though R+J isn't really a love story at all.

RzaRecta357
07-30-2014, 01:34 AM
Calling it now. They won't be able to unite because of this and Arno will die for her. We'll actually see our protagonist die this time perhaps.

It'd be cool if that happened then we took over as Elise like Marstons son. They said it'd be to much work but they obviously captured stuff for women already if she's in it and is gonna be fighting or something.

High wishes obviously.

LoyalACFan
07-30-2014, 01:37 AM
Calling it now. They won't be able to unite because of this and Arno will die for her. We'll actually see our protagonist die this time perhaps.

It'd be cool if that happened then we took over as Elise like Marstons son. They said it'd be to much work but they obviously captured stuff for women already if she's in it and is gonna be fighting or something.

High wishes obviously.

There's still the problem of the Animus not being able to witness an ancestor past the conception of whichever child whose lineage ends with the modern protagonist. I know they're going with a new Animus "Helix" this time, but if they remove the child conception aspect they're pretty much pissing on the established lore. Which is actually fine by me, I think the Animus is needlessly constrictive, but if they're going to remove its constraints just axe it completely instead of coming up with new bogus pseudoscience to wave away any inconsistencies.

JustPlainQuirky
07-30-2014, 01:38 AM
Seeing our protagonist Arno die is actually what i've been rooting for