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Flydutch
08-04-2004, 04:33 AM
With carrier operations we are in desperate need of of a extra cominucation command/menu

What if your shot, low on fuel or your original carrier is gone and there is six a/c in front of you for the landing cirquits down wind leg?

you : "This is number One asking imidiate clearance for emergency landing!"

response : Number two, wave off!..... Number One you are cleared to land follow the LSO's instructions!"

In case a aircraft has crashed on the flightdeck or a other a/c emergency has been given clearance, the response would be
Number One, that's a negative, hold your patern or ditch your a/c"

you: "I am ditching my aircraft!"
response:
"The follow DD will pick you up, Good luck!"

In case of a landbased airbase:
"I am deathsticking inn!" (Landing a/c with out engine power)
or: "I am bellying inn!" (Wheels up landing)

response: "Number One, belly inn on the grass strip next to 24" (grass strip along runway 24)

Of course when a AI or coop a/c is in emergency you could be waved off too!

as flightleader it would be satifiyng to be able to command a damaged AI to make a emergency landing in stead of fliyng on untill it crashes.

I think PF would become more interesting and practical when fliyng campaigns with features like this.
Ofcourse this isjust sugesting I am not a adept to US Navy WWII radio termenoligy so please if you are suggest otherwise!

Could you improve the existing callsigns, in WWII you could be courtmartialled for using incomplete callsigns like 'Number One' all the pilots with that number on your side could be mistaken!

Flydutch
08-04-2004, 04:33 AM
With carrier operations we are in desperate need of of a extra cominucation command/menu

What if your shot, low on fuel or your original carrier is gone and there is six a/c in front of you for the landing cirquits down wind leg?

you : "This is number One asking imidiate clearance for emergency landing!"

response : Number two, wave off!..... Number One you are cleared to land follow the LSO's instructions!"

In case a aircraft has crashed on the flightdeck or a other a/c emergency has been given clearance, the response would be
Number One, that's a negative, hold your patern or ditch your a/c"

you: "I am ditching my aircraft!"
response:
"The follow DD will pick you up, Good luck!"

In case of a landbased airbase:
"I am deathsticking inn!" (Landing a/c with out engine power)
or: "I am bellying inn!" (Wheels up landing)

response: "Number One, belly inn on the grass strip next to 24" (grass strip along runway 24)

Of course when a AI or coop a/c is in emergency you could be waved off too!

as flightleader it would be satifiyng to be able to command a damaged AI to make a emergency landing in stead of fliyng on untill it crashes.

I think PF would become more interesting and practical when fliyng campaigns with features like this.
Ofcourse this isjust sugesting I am not a adept to US Navy WWII radio termenoligy so please if you are suggest otherwise!

Could you improve the existing callsigns, in WWII you could be courtmartialled for using incomplete callsigns like 'Number One' all the pilots with that number on your side could be mistaken!

Texas LongHorn
08-04-2004, 06:55 AM
Hey Dutch, good post. One thing though bothers me, at the end of your post you mention Courts-Marshall for a radio offense <ggg.> Sorry bud, radio dicipline (spelling?) went out the window when the furball started. I've heard the actual tapes (burned to CD) of the Midway and Wake Island transmissions, those guys are going nuts on the radio! If you watch the movie "Midway" they mention the radio problems with incomplete reports, etc. All the best, LongHorn

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Yellonet
08-04-2004, 08:59 AM
Yeah, that's some very good ideas.. We could really use more extensive radio commands.

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olaleier
08-04-2004, 09:14 AM
And please please:

"This is Group one. Fighters two o'clock!"

Instead of never having a clue who is saying what.

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SKULLS_Exec01
08-04-2004, 10:33 AM
Yep, I totally agree!!
We must have this radio stuff setup more for the PTO, but i'm sure they are working on it...(I hope).

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Tater-SW-
08-04-2004, 12:15 PM
Also a flight (FMB) property for if the flight even has a radio. That brings up an interesting question, were the zeros tested by the US equipped with radios? If so, were they japanese, or american radios (what was the weight difference).

tater

WereSnowleopard
08-04-2004, 01:21 PM
Oh That one I already post before about allow heavy damaged bomber to landing first even may use emergency landing strip. Good post!

Cheers
Snowleopard

Ak9779
08-04-2004, 04:21 PM
Please god yes to we need flight callsigns! I'm developing neck problems from whipping around everytime I get a "Check 6" from a flight that's in combat 16 kilometers away...

I can't believe they didn't include that right off the bat. I suppose in IRL you could recognize the voice you your flight leader/wingies, but it'd still be damn nice to have in this game.

Later,
Ak

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MACHINE GUN : JAMMED
FUEL TANK: LEAK
ENGINE: ON FIRE
PILOT: WOUNDED
...Yeah, it's gonna be one of those days...

Tater-SW-
08-04-2004, 04:28 PM
Actually, that is far far far more realistic than plane specific calls. In RL, I think they had 4 channel radios, and I've read many accounts where they said someone would yell "break" and every plane around broke hard. The system WarBirds had where you could click on a friendly and send a 6 call was absurd. If you aren't close enough to read the number on the plane, you shouldn't be giving a specific warning, period.

tater

Tater-SW-
08-04-2004, 04:32 PM
as for recognizing a voice, yeah (isn't your number 2 the lame voice in AEP... "congratulations!" <G>?) Aside from your wingman (who should be watching your 6, lol), no one else is likely close enough or paying enough attention to ID your specific plane at any distance during combat.

tater

-HH-Dubbo
08-04-2004, 04:37 PM
It would actually be good to order individual damaged aircraft under your command to RTB. As it is now you cannot. Only whole flights

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Tater-SW-
08-04-2004, 11:20 PM
Oh, that'd be fine, you'd have to fly up to them and check out the damage anyway. I would, anyway, I've never once turned icons on in il-2/FB/AEP <G>.

tater

-HH-Dubbo
08-05-2004, 12:56 AM
Or maybe they can inform you they are RTB, if they lose bits or start to smoke..you know. As it stands now, you get a unidentified voice telling someone to RTB either after he's already smacked into the ground or seconds before he does. Even on fire your flight tends to hang around. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Flydutch
08-06-2004, 07:23 AM
That gives mea other idea!

Command:

"Number 2 please check my aircraft for damage"

And you wing man will fly underneat behind you and come up the other side giving you report of the damage to your A/C

This was done in real live.
Also often on carriers and airbases there would be a low fly-by where a officer on the ground would check if the landing gear was locked down before giving landing clearance.