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XyZspineZyX
10-13-2003, 08:29 AM
My Gf 4600 has met its match. Playing with Track IR the game settings had to be turned down to way less than perfect. I know the 4600 is getting long in the tooth. Well, I got a lot of use out of it and I am not complaining. While playing tracks I can still make the game look incredible with this card. However playing is a different story.
So here is my question. My friend is a computer expert but he has no knowledge of FB. He sugests getting the ATI 9800. I am aprehensive as I have allways been a Ge force user. What is your opinion? Also I would like to hear from TIR users. What are your game settings.
My setup is a 533 FSB Asus mobo with a 2.66 P4. I have 2 Ghz of Pc 3500 Ram and I play on a 21" Phillips monitor.
Please give me suggestions on this high end setup. Please dont turn this thread into a who is better than who. I would like your opinion as a USER. Help me make a well informed decision. Gf 5900 or ATI 9800?

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XyZspineZyX
10-13-2003, 08:29 AM
My Gf 4600 has met its match. Playing with Track IR the game settings had to be turned down to way less than perfect. I know the 4600 is getting long in the tooth. Well, I got a lot of use out of it and I am not complaining. While playing tracks I can still make the game look incredible with this card. However playing is a different story.
So here is my question. My friend is a computer expert but he has no knowledge of FB. He sugests getting the ATI 9800. I am aprehensive as I have allways been a Ge force user. What is your opinion? Also I would like to hear from TIR users. What are your game settings.
My setup is a 533 FSB Asus mobo with a 2.66 P4. I have 2 Ghz of Pc 3500 Ram and I play on a 21" Phillips monitor.
Please give me suggestions on this high end setup. Please dont turn this thread into a who is better than who. I would like your opinion as a USER. Help me make a well informed decision. Gf 5900 or ATI 9800?

Kaptain Maico
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Trng Officer

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XyZspineZyX
10-13-2003, 10:35 AM
Well definiatly go ATI. Cheaper and faster and got higher image quality currently. The 5900 ULTRA is a choice if you only play IL 2 FB but otherwise if I am going to play dx 9 games I would stay far away from it. Even in dx 8 games they are only second best currently. It´s really expensive too for what it gives.

But if you only play IL 2 FB and feel good buying nVidia there aren´t any disaster. It will be a huge improvement over your ti-4600 still...

The only reason not to get the 9800 he mentions is that some encounters problems in perfect mode and that they don´t have native support for stereo3d glasses.

XyZspineZyX
10-13-2003, 12:42 PM
The 9800 pro is what I have now and I'am happy with it.Most of the problems people had ( me included )were with the first revision 9700 's

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XyZspineZyX
10-13-2003, 12:50 PM
I had several nvidia cards through the past few years. The last one was ASUS ti 4200.
I upgraded to ati 9800 non pro made by Sapphire. I was a little sceptic about it after all those ati vs nvidia biatch'n and moanin all over the internet.
But ow i realize what were ppl talkin about. Man i love this new card its awesome. I have similar setup as you-P4 2.4@2.8 1 Gig of DDR.
I say go for it man!



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XyZspineZyX
10-13-2003, 01:52 PM
I suggest buying the ATI.

Its not like there is much of a difference in performance between the high-end cards, and either NVidia or ATI will net a performance gain over your 4600, but my logic says: Get the ATI.

Owning ATI will allow you the luxury of bragging rights.
Owning ATI will help you learn more about computers since you must retweak your games after every driver update.
Owning ATI will give you a peek at the worst customer service ever.

After dealing with ATI, you'll appreciate your next NVidia product fully.

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XyZspineZyX
10-13-2003, 03:48 PM
BaldieJr wrote:
- I suggest buying the ATI.
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- Its not like there is much of a difference in
- performance between the high-end cards, and either
- NVidia or ATI will net a performance gain over your
- 4600, but my logic says: Get the ATI.
-
- Owning ATI will allow you the luxury of bragging
- rights.
- Owning ATI will help you learn more about computers
- since you must retweak your games after every driver
- update.
- Owning ATI will give you a peek at the worst
- customer service ever.
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- After dealing with ATI, you'll appreciate your next
- NVidia product fully.
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I have used ATI for years, and have not had the problems of which many speak. I have never been the first on my block to change drivers the instant they come out, I wait to see what others experience before making that decision, such as what just happened with the 3.8 change. 3.7 works nicely on my 9700pro, so no reason to change. My 7200 on my server comp works best with drivers that are now probably 2 years old, 'bout old as the card. I've had one Nvidia card, a T3-500, and did'nt care for it, but this would not prevent me from trying another, depends on the reviews it gets, and whats on top at purchase time. This seems to me to be the most sensible approach to this issue. Anyone who would refuse to consider all the possibilities when spending $300-500 is a fool IMHO, and this goes for ANY component in a gamer comp.
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XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 02:29 AM
I agree with baldiejr,nvidia is not pushing up daisies yet! all of the high end cards have great graphics,the thing I want in a graphics card is stability ,it has to be stable or it is not worth a crap no matter how great the graphics are,some stores like best buy will let you return a card if you dont like it within 30 days(check the store policy on this first tho it may have changed).

Thoramir
10-16-2003, 02:44 AM
BaldieJr wrote:
- I suggest buying the ATI.
-
- Its not like there is much of a difference in
- performance between the high-end cards, and either
- NVidia or ATI will net a performance gain over your
- 4600, but my logic says: Get the ATI.
-
- Owning ATI will allow you the luxury of bragging
- rights.
- Owning ATI will help you learn more about computers
- since you must retweak your games after every driver
- update.
- Owning ATI will give you a peek at the worst
- customer service ever.

Funny, that sounds like my experience with the last Nvidia card I bought. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 03:01 AM
ATI no questions asked or needed.

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Buzz_25th
10-16-2003, 03:11 AM
By all means get the 9800. Then you can brag how well it plays games that arn't released yet../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 03:18 AM
I just ordered my 9800 Pro yesterday. After looking at all of the cards available it was the obvious choice. I have owned both types of cards and I simply prefer ATI. Still, I would buy the best card out there after becoming informed about it, even if it was made by Mattel. Right now I just think the ATI is better priced, has better image quality, and performs better. I don't see that changing in the near future. Nvidia's cards are traditionally priced a little higher and its problems with DX9 are known. I plan on keeping this card for awhile so the latter is a consideration for me. I would say go ATI but get whatever you are comfortable with, both ATI's and Nvidia's latest offerings will be a significant improvement.

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Message Edited on 10/16/0302:21AM by kyrule2