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crazyivan1970
01-13-2004, 06:50 PM
When you get tired of Yak3s, K4s, A9s and other late war wonders please feel free to join my brand spanking new battle of Moscow, Summer 1941.

I am seriously starting to wonder if it really worth efforts and time creating those maps when 1944-1945 setup can fill out server in no time... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Keep in mind that it takes 3-5 hours to create a somewhat decent DF map with ground and test it...

V!
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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

crazyivan1970
01-13-2004, 06:50 PM
When you get tired of Yak3s, K4s, A9s and other late war wonders please feel free to join my brand spanking new battle of Moscow, Summer 1941.

I am seriously starting to wonder if it really worth efforts and time creating those maps when 1944-1945 setup can fill out server in no time... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Keep in mind that it takes 3-5 hours to create a somewhat decent DF map with ground and test it...

V!
Regards,

VFC*Crazyivan aka VFC*HOST

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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

FW190fan
01-13-2004, 07:06 PM
Yep, it definitely takes 3-5 hours at least to make a really good, immersive map. And that's if you are experienced using FMB.

1941 is a damn fun year to fly in as well.

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BaldieJr
01-13-2004, 07:13 PM
Early war is where its at. FB's engine is just better suited for it really.

I guess if the high-alt modelling was better, and the horizon didn't look funny, the late-war scenarios would be ok, but early planes just feel at home in the FB world.

Thanks for all your efforts Ivan. I've always enjoyed your server, your maps, and the talented pilots who visit your server.

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+----/ ____)(_(_(/_(_(__(__(/____/__/ (__--------,' /---+
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|(_/ ..-""``"'-._ (_/ __,' 42 _/ |
+-.-"" "-..,____________/7,.--"" __]-----+

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pourshot
01-13-2004, 07:18 PM
The early war planes take more skill to use well thats why your server is so empty in 41.I have never liked the late planes but I realy dont know why.Maybe it will change for me when I get the spitfire.

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VW-IceFire
01-13-2004, 07:45 PM
Ummm...early war planes take a different kind of skill and not more skill. I tend to fly late war myself but going back to early war is always a treat and its certainly a different experience. There is more emphasis on quick manuvers while late war tends to be based more on using speed and having massive tactical advantage to win. The early war planes also tend to have some kind of vices (like the negative G problem on the I-16 and the Hurri's).

The Spitfire Mark V we're getting in the expansion is a 1941 plane essentially so you'll still be liking early war http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Infact I plan to have some fun making some Spitfire V against FW190A-4's in some missions. Should be a blast.

- IceFire
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T_O_A_D
01-13-2004, 08:11 PM
I like no cannon servers. It's much more fun to struggle with an opponant with guns only.IMO

Maybey its because I can't hit with a cannon LOL

Have you checked your Private Topics recently? (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=ugtpc&s=400102)
131st_Toad's Squad link (http://www.geocities.com/vfw_131st/index.htm)
My TrackIR fix, Read the whole thread (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?q=Y&a=tpc&s=400102&f=49310655&m=15310285&p=1)
2.11 drivers (http://home.mchsi.com/~131st-vfw/NaturalPoint_trackIR_2_11.exe)
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crazyivan1970
01-13-2004, 09:29 PM
Gave it another try...no go. 4 hours up, only AKD joined...that`s that. Shutting it down... oh well

V!
Regards,

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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

GR142_Astro
01-13-2004, 10:08 PM
I too enjoy your server, Ivan and thanks for hosting.

I think one of the few ways to get folks to at least try the early war scenarios out is to have a map rotation as found on GreaterGreen.

We may be flying 44-45 map that ends and goes into a '41 map. Many people stay and sometimes we have a server with 25+ flying the old birds.

I am guilty myself of not joining early war servers in the past, but now I look forward to I-16s vs 109F4s, etc.

JG53_Gutted
01-13-2004, 10:11 PM
i like 42 better, because i can fly a fw190a4

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ElAurens
01-13-2004, 10:28 PM
Could not fly tonight Ivan, as I'm not at home... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I prefer early year as well, so I'll be in next time...

S! er....... V!

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JZG_Waltrip
01-13-2004, 10:29 PM
I like 1941 servers because the 109F2 and F4 totally outclass everything the Russians can muster.

T_O_A_D
01-13-2004, 10:33 PM
Yeh I'm at work Ivan http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Or I'd of got on to. Was on slammin's the other night only a couple others joined other than my squad. I don't know why its so hard to draw guys into a sound server.

Have you checked your Private Topics recently? (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=ugtpc&s=400102)
131st_Toad's Squad link (http://www.geocities.com/vfw_131st/index.htm)
My TrackIR fix, Read the whole thread (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?q=Y&a=tpc&s=400102&f=49310655&m=15310285&p=1)
2.11 drivers (http://home.mchsi.com/~131st-vfw/NaturalPoint_trackIR_2_11.exe)
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jazman777
01-13-2004, 10:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
When you get tired of Yak3s, K4s, A9s and other late war wonders please feel free to join my brand spanking new battle of Moscow, Summer 1941.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I salute you. You are the man. Keep up the good work. Sorry couldn't join tonight.

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A.K.Davis
01-13-2004, 10:57 PM
Don't know Ivan. Your server was full running the '41 map a few days ago (Sunday maybe?). The more realistic, limited planeset servers seem to be more popular on the weekends and during the day on weekdays sometimes (euros I guess?)

There are certainly days when your server is full regardless of the map, so I wouldn't worry about it. Some days are just slow, I guess. I always try to join and wait around a bit to see if anyone shows up (or just go do something else for a bit so the server doesn't "look" as empty http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ). One problem with the '41 Moscow scenario is that the distances make it a bit rough getting started with just a few people, but once the server fills up it's a great map.

Don't give in to the darkside of late-war. We all know the real air war was '40-'43.

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adlabs6
01-13-2004, 11:18 PM
Sorry to have missed it, I'll try to catch it next time. Sounds great, if I'm going to DF, I'd rather DF in early war planes.

And yes, it does matter that you make maps Ivan. Sadly, I'm not able to play much FB online now, so I'm not in a clear position to say anything with authority. But I've yet to find a map boring on your servers. And even when the players thin abit, the added ground objects keep me there moving mud, where I'm happiest. http://www.geocities.com/adlabs6/B/bin/1/happy.gif

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Henkie_
01-14-2004, 01:56 AM
Early war is the best.

Late war is boring. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

cu http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Erbriac
01-14-2004, 03:53 AM
I was on your server quite a few times. It's great, really. But it mainly stays on when I'm at work and closes when I get to play. The early war planeset is my preference, btw. What about adding online stats like on GG or F16_dedicated? So ppl can build a "career" without resorting to fly VEF etc. That way you will gather more regulars, I think. I for myself am quite interested in comparing my crappy skills with others http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Maybe add a map rotation with different planes to spice it up...

We need more servers like GG or F16, and yours can easily be. Well known, stable and with honest and great players (when I was there).

S! for your work.

Bull-Dog.
01-14-2004, 04:54 AM
If I can fly my P40E I will be there. It will be good not to be fighting 1944 superior a/c all the time.

Bartsimpson-
01-14-2004, 05:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
Ummm...early war planes take a different kind of skill and not more skill. I tend to fly late war myself but going back to early war is always a treat and its certainly a different experience. There is more emphasis on quick manuvers while late war tends to be based more on using speed and having massive tactical advantage to win. The early war planes also tend to have some kind of vices (like the negative G problem on the I-16 and the Hurri's).

The Spitfire Mark V we're getting in the expansion is a 1941 plane essentially so you'll still be liking early war http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Infact I plan to have some fun making some Spitfire V against FW190A-4's in some missions. Should be a blast.

- IceFire
http://home.cogeco.ca/~cczerneda/sigs/spit-sig.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> ]

Could this be the end of the cowardly 'BNZ/chicken run' lets wait and see

Bart

bazzaah2
01-14-2004, 05:17 AM
Me and the boys often fly early war and I quite like the challenge. Will keep an eye open for your server so don't give up just yet!

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Diablo_777_AVG
01-14-2004, 06:15 AM
Ivan..I love your server but I hate the early planeset for the VVS. When I fly early servers like this I tend to go Blue. The Red planes are so outclassed. If you had a rotating map and time frame it wouldn't be so bad.

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crazyivan1970
01-14-2004, 09:46 AM
Great, thanks for the words of encuragement. Maybe you right, during a week it is
kind of slow. As far as third party software goes, such as FBD and Stats proggies
i rather not to run it. My main goal is to have a lag/stutter free environment acceptable for everyone and anything that increases lag/stutter it is not an option, no matter how good it is. VFC*HOST is pretty powerfull machine (XP3200 with PC3200 DDR 400) and there is no lack in computer power... but even then i encountered some micro-stutter using FBD.
But map rotating is something that i will include very soon. Just have to finalize couple of maps and either write couple of scripts or get a proggie from B man.
I never tought of changing a map automatically becuase not everybody likes it. A lot of people preferto get familiar with the map and have their thing going and sudden map reloading.
Could be unpleasent surprize.. sometimes. I am usually around and check on the server quiet frequently and map reload usually happens with everyones agreement.
In the same time, automatic reload is an option, maybe 2-3 hours and new map with
10 min warning before reload will take place. That i can do, no biggie.

Well, i`ll hold off on 1941 till Friday night then... tonight will run Kuban 1943 instead.

Once again, thanks for your replies http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

V!
Regards,

VFC*Crazyivan aka VFC*HOST

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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

BpGemini
01-14-2004, 10:11 AM
Sorry Ivan, No P-39 = No Gemini.

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BaldieJr
01-14-2004, 10:37 AM
Kuban '43 is good stuff. I was planning to make this exact mission tonight!

Scripting does seem to cause stuttering, or maybe the scripted servers just attract more low-resource players (1 bad apple can spoil the bunch, as they say).

I'd guess that you'd see more interest if you meet the following two criteria:

Server up around the clock. I always enjoy your serve, but rarely see it, and often have prior gaming engangements when it is online. Others probably have this issue.

Rotating missions. Personally, I like the idea of using the same map, but moving things around a bit.

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">
______ _____
(, / ) /) /) , (, /
/---( _ // _(/ _ / __ ,""""]
+----/ ____)(_(_(/_(_(__(__(/____/__/ (__--------,' /---+
| / ( / ,' NR / |
|(_/ ..-""``"'-._ (_/ __,' 42 _/ |
+-.-"" "-..,____________/7,.--"" __]-----+

</pre>

GoodKn1ght
01-14-2004, 11:00 AM
good server, i just wish it wasn't empty so much. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

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carguy_
01-14-2004, 11:03 AM
Heheh bad idea cuz reds only fly UFOs with 30mm armor.What`s more da I16 isn`t a tank no more.

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