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Waldo.Pepper
07-07-2004, 04:35 PM
However the LSO is modeled in this sim I think it would be a great idea if it could be activated for a training mission on a land based runway. So that a squad can organize a training night safe on dry land... then after a hour or two you can transition to the "real" simulated thing.

Waldo.Pepper
07-07-2004, 04:35 PM
However the LSO is modeled in this sim I think it would be a great idea if it could be activated for a training mission on a land based runway. So that a squad can organize a training night safe on dry land... then after a hour or two you can transition to the "real" simulated thing.

Yellonet
07-07-2004, 05:01 PM
Why not train on the carrier from the beginning?
Are there even going to be LSOs?


- Yellonet

Waldo.Pepper
07-07-2004, 05:12 PM
Two reasons I think.

1. That's the way it is done in real training.

and

2. If the Carrier is damaged it will delay the training.

Merlin (FZG_Immel)
07-07-2004, 06:12 PM
well.. Landing on a strip is much diff.

it is not moving, and it is not 30ft high than the ground.

I guess the LSO wont be usefull.

the only usefull task for the LSO would be to indicate us when to IDLE the engine, that yes. hope it will be implemented.

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-HH- Beebop
07-07-2004, 06:12 PM
Well the LSO in CFS2 was in an inset box. not very realistic but given the constraints of a computer screen, a reasonable accommodation.
I've heard that the Japanese used lights on the aft beam of the carrier. How about using an animated figure but the paddles are "lit". Given that in FB navagation lights can be seen for miles and miles it could work. Again unrealistic but given the constraints..........etc.
BTW, how did planes land in the evening? Were there no night operations? And what about the pilot that limps back slowly and arrives just after sunset? How did they see the LSO's signals?

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Flydutch
07-07-2004, 09:08 PM
The Japanese used a signal officer as wel with diffrent signals used by the USN. As i remember fliyng CFS2 the signal officer (Shown in a silly picture in picture screen) used the Imperial Japanese Navy signals for both sides!

To me landing the aircraft back at the pitching Flight deck will be probaly the most exciting part of the mission especialy in the "widow maker" Corsair!
A lot of lesser skilled allied pilots lost their lives in the F4u wich was dificult to fly, Corsair pilots tyed to aproach as close as possible fliyng in the opposed direction of the landing aproach Gear, flaps and tailhook down (Port side away from the Island)turn banking the port wing down enabling to see and keep an eye on the LSO Canopy slided back for better view and emergency escape when crashing, and while glued to his signals turn into the groove cut the engine nose would come up if the hook catched the cable he would give power inorder not to be catapulted back where he came from!
Carriers have deck-landinglights just like landing strips do!
But you can imagine that the captain did not want too be a lightbeacon for al to see so only for the landing aproach itself it would be used. Just like nightfighter-Bases did

Waldo.Pepper
07-07-2004, 09:56 PM
I'm looking forward to landing a crippled plane with a wounded pilot in a gale at night. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Maybe under attack also!

BSS_Vidar
07-08-2004, 01:34 AM
The Blacksheep are all ready doing FCLP's (Field Carrier Landing Practice) in IL-2FB/AEP. We have a mission that has the flight deck shaped out on a runway with buildings and bonfires on the end of the runway to immulate the arresting gear. Bonfires are also placed all over the field to indicate the proper possion in the landing pattern after excecuting a Carrier Brake.

As of now, there is a standing order to all BSS pilots to excecute a carrier brake over their field in any game unless they are shot up, or bogeys are hovering over the field. This also allows for entering the base's airspace at the speed-of-heat and use the carrier brake to bleed off speed for landing. We're gonna be ready for PF when it comes out. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif Even our newest members are eattin' it up!

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