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Venom079
04-29-2004, 03:30 PM
Some of you may have already heard or seen of this but I found this to be amazing and thought that the one's who haven't seen it might like too. Here is a brief description, but you can see more here (http://www.coffeedrome.com/glacier.html)

From The Daily Beacon
October 28, 2002

MIDD*****RO, Ky. - Hibernation is officially over for Glacier Girl.

After spending a half-century in the heart of a Greenland glacier, the World War II fighter plane flew Saturday for the first time since it was pulled piece by piece from beneath 268 feet of ice and snow.

With propellers whirling and 1,275-horsepower twin engines humming, test pilot Steve Hinton raced the P-38 Lightning down the runway and lifted it into a gray sky for a 30-minute flight before an estimated 20,000 spectators in this small eastern Kentucky town.

"Seeing that plane lift off was just thrilling," said Brad McManus, who had piloted one of the P-38s that crash-landed with the recovered plane on July 15, 1942. "It's a moment in time, a very special moment."

The plane, one of the war's fastest, was among six fighters and two bombers forced by foul weather and low fuel to crash-land on the frigid glacier. It took rescuers on dog sleds 10 days to reach the 25 crew members, but all of them got out safely.

The warplanes were left behind to be slowly buried in snow and ice. They might have been forgotten except for people including Midd*****ro businessman Roy Shoffner, who had become enamored with the piston-engined, propeller-driven P-38s as a youngster.

Shoffner, too young for the war, imagined flying one of the planes, which could reach 405 mph at altitudes of up to 35,000 feet. The United States built 10,113 P-38s, but just 24 survive and only a few are still flying.

The restaurateur, former banker and 1950s Air Force fighter pilot recovered one of the P-38s in the summer of 1992.

By the time he got to Greenland, some 25 stories of snow and ice had squashed the plane flat, fuselage, wings and all.

Crews used streams of hot water to melt a 48-inch-wide tunnel down to the plane and opened a cavern around it. Disassembling and retrieving the aircraft took about four months and cost some $638,000, said Bob Cardin, director of the restoration effort.

Shoffner, 74, had a crew working for 10 years to restore the plane, dubbed Glacier Girl, to like-new condition, tooling parts to replace those destroyed by the weight of the ice. Some 3,500 people a month have been coming to Midd*****ro to watch the restoration, which cost at least $3 million.

One could see the appreciation in the tear-clouded eyes of Henry Miller, 83, of Mount Juliet, Tenn. The former P-38 pilot relies on oxygen tanks to fuel his breathing when he walks even short distances.

"That plane means something to me, because it has had it as tough as I have," Miller said. "We've both survived."

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Venom079
04-29-2004, 03:30 PM
Some of you may have already heard or seen of this but I found this to be amazing and thought that the one's who haven't seen it might like too. Here is a brief description, but you can see more here (http://www.coffeedrome.com/glacier.html)

From The Daily Beacon
October 28, 2002

MIDD*****RO, Ky. - Hibernation is officially over for Glacier Girl.

After spending a half-century in the heart of a Greenland glacier, the World War II fighter plane flew Saturday for the first time since it was pulled piece by piece from beneath 268 feet of ice and snow.

With propellers whirling and 1,275-horsepower twin engines humming, test pilot Steve Hinton raced the P-38 Lightning down the runway and lifted it into a gray sky for a 30-minute flight before an estimated 20,000 spectators in this small eastern Kentucky town.

"Seeing that plane lift off was just thrilling," said Brad McManus, who had piloted one of the P-38s that crash-landed with the recovered plane on July 15, 1942. "It's a moment in time, a very special moment."

The plane, one of the war's fastest, was among six fighters and two bombers forced by foul weather and low fuel to crash-land on the frigid glacier. It took rescuers on dog sleds 10 days to reach the 25 crew members, but all of them got out safely.

The warplanes were left behind to be slowly buried in snow and ice. They might have been forgotten except for people including Midd*****ro businessman Roy Shoffner, who had become enamored with the piston-engined, propeller-driven P-38s as a youngster.

Shoffner, too young for the war, imagined flying one of the planes, which could reach 405 mph at altitudes of up to 35,000 feet. The United States built 10,113 P-38s, but just 24 survive and only a few are still flying.

The restaurateur, former banker and 1950s Air Force fighter pilot recovered one of the P-38s in the summer of 1992.

By the time he got to Greenland, some 25 stories of snow and ice had squashed the plane flat, fuselage, wings and all.

Crews used streams of hot water to melt a 48-inch-wide tunnel down to the plane and opened a cavern around it. Disassembling and retrieving the aircraft took about four months and cost some $638,000, said Bob Cardin, director of the restoration effort.

Shoffner, 74, had a crew working for 10 years to restore the plane, dubbed Glacier Girl, to like-new condition, tooling parts to replace those destroyed by the weight of the ice. Some 3,500 people a month have been coming to Midd*****ro to watch the restoration, which cost at least $3 million.

One could see the appreciation in the tear-clouded eyes of Henry Miller, 83, of Mount Juliet, Tenn. The former P-38 pilot relies on oxygen tanks to fuel his breathing when he walks even short distances.

"That plane means something to me, because it has had it as tough as I have," Miller said. "We've both survived."

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NTESLA
04-29-2004, 04:17 PM
Yes! I remembered her! They had a complete hour special on Discovery Channel in regards to how the complete story from the lost to the lifting and restoration and first flight! Great thing !

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MssrSchmidt
04-29-2004, 04:32 PM
She'll be at the annual air show here in Columbia, Mo., Memorial Day weekend. Will post pix, if you like. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Venom079
04-29-2004, 04:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MssrSchmidt:
She'll be at the annual air show here in Columbia, Mo., Memorial Day weekend. Will post pix, if you like. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why thank you sir MssrSchmidt!http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Very nice of you to offer, that would be great!

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JRJacobs
04-29-2004, 04:56 PM
columbia mo... school? any jacobs arounde there are kin

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Spectre-63
04-29-2004, 05:00 PM
I, too, watched in awe as they first excavated and then rebuilt that beautiful P-38. I'd love to see those pics. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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MssrSchmidt
04-29-2004, 05:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JRJacobs:
columbia mo... school? any jacobs arounde there are kin<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not school. That was a cuple decades ago. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Some folks here named Jacobs (Steve and Lana). Peaceniks who protest the airshow every year. Too much 'war mongering,' they say.

Fellow named Jacob. (Ken). State senator.

Wanna claim either of those? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Bearcat99
04-29-2004, 06:43 PM
I have the issue of Flight Journal with the write up. Good stuff..

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310th Falcon
04-29-2004, 07:16 PM
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SKULLS Virga
04-29-2004, 08:35 PM
S! Falcon

Bet they wish that GPS was mounted there in 1942 (and the satellites were operational as well).

Dash_C.
04-29-2004, 08:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MssrSchmidt:
She'll be at the annual air show here in Columbia, Mo., Memorial Day weekend. Will post pix, if you like. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Cool. I used to live there. I miss the airshow every year. Some of my earliest memories of planes...

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Venom079
04-29-2004, 09:03 PM
Hey, nice cockpit shot Falcon! and the xtra linkshttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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04-29-2004, 09:37 PM
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mortoma
05-01-2004, 12:06 PM
Cool, they use the exact same portable GPS unit I use to fly rental planes!!!! I love my Garmin GPS 295...............Looks a little out of place since a gunsight there would be more authentic though, hehe.