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Kejotikk
07-13-2004, 07:04 AM
I really hope this will be well made since it is crucial to the success of a sub sim.

One thing I would really like implemented is a chance for an escort to sit dead in the water with engines off waiting for you to surface. In AOD they did this sometimes and if you were reckless thinking nothing is close and surfaced without checking with the periscope you'd sometimes be in for a nasty surprise.

Kejotikk
07-13-2004, 07:04 AM
I really hope this will be well made since it is crucial to the success of a sub sim.

One thing I would really like implemented is a chance for an escort to sit dead in the water with engines off waiting for you to surface. In AOD they did this sometimes and if you were reckless thinking nothing is close and surfaced without checking with the periscope you'd sometimes be in for a nasty surprise.

TASKFORCE1x1
07-13-2004, 08:46 AM
Funny you mention this because in SHII the AI DD & DE's were a disaster. The escorts would ram their own ships if you showed yourself in the middle of a convoy. (was good for me because I used it to slow down some ships that were just too fast for me or to buy me time for reloads) I hope collision is down to a minimum. If there is a collision I want to see damage this time on both AI vessels. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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bertgang
07-13-2004, 08:48 AM
I agree with Kejotikk.
Same needing for merchant AI; our targets should do their best to avoid our attacks and survive (and avoid collisions too).

zambet
07-13-2004, 09:38 AM
I really hope that the dev. team will implement escort manoeuvres as realistic as possible. Here is a very good link(I don't know if anyone of you is aware of this link) which deals with the escort tactics followed by the British and American destroyers and corvettes once they spotted a U-boat:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/war/wwtwo/launch_gms_battle_atlantic.shtml

Of course these tactics weren't employed right from the beginning of the war and not all of them proved to be 100% successful. It will be really amazing to see if the dev team will model the escort's AI accordingly.
Cheers!

Joe the Killerman
07-13-2004, 02:47 PM
In SH, enemy convoys used to disasemble and regroup to avoid torpedoes. Even merchants tried to ram me!

Das Panzerkunst!

Redwine
07-13-2004, 04:31 PM
This is a good point, I near to not remember the AOD AI, this sim do not works in my computer from many time ago...........

But DD AI in SH1 is just wonderfull............

Basically there are some main behaviors in DDs,

1]

Attack you, force you to dive depth, attempt to destroy in few pass, and back to escort convoy......... puting it out your reaching capabilities.........


2]

Attack you, attempt to destoy, if not,stay on you up to you waste all your oxigen and batteries.......

Would be good to have this both behaviors........


3]

In SH1, part of the escorts attack you when detected, and some ones maintain escort of the capital ship or carrier, and quickly start up a scape far away from you while the rest of escorts prey on you...........


4]

Attempt to ram you is another real behavior, in that way dies the Kapitan Schepke........


5]

Another interesting behavior, a trap was the DDs stops his engines, and wait the sub to go out of the silent runing...............

This behavior was described by Kapitans Spiess (WW1) and Kretschmer (WW2).


6]

In SH1 DDs shoot your periscope if it is posible............. I had seen it in the videos of SH3 too, very good..............

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[This message was edited by Redwine on Tue July 13 2004 at 03:43 PM.]