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Wolfmeister1010
04-25-2014, 02:16 PM
Combat Music.

If you are like me, then music in a game is almost as important as graphics, story, and gameplay when it comes to rating a game. The music in AC has always been wonderful, but I feel like one aspect has kinda been lagging lately.

AC3 combat music was great in the frontier, and the city combat music was decent..but that was IT. There were no enough combat themes. It kinda sucked..cuz there were a bunch of themes in the AC3 soundtrack that would have are for excellent combat themes, such as "Trouble in Town". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2P8L_5zKko

In AC4..wow was I disappointed. The boarding themes were epic, such as "take what is ours" and "Lay aboard lads", and the naval combat music was AMAZING, with "Pyrates Beware" being one of my all time favorite tracks in AC history. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYwuf24HBW8

However..the land/city combat music was just..awful. One of them was "A Pirate's Life" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaRwVnXAFmk This piece is more suited as a goddam stealth ambience. The part at 0:58 is very very good..but other than that..damn was it boring.

Theme 2 was a generic combat track not even included in the OST, no climax or anything lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmU70dskphk

And the 3rd one, "Confrontation" was decent at best. At least it had a little bit of action to it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwQrS_48kqA

It frustrates me so much because there are TONS of pieces that could have been used for combat, such as this theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2fS_RP_KbM was AWESOME, and was only used like TWICE during scripted parts of the campaign.

Even the multiplayer had better "combat" music. This piece: "Tampa Bay" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kZbwjLFfes at 1:06 and onward is awesome.

Then there is the issue of there not being any sort of "escape" music in the game at all, lol.

All mechanics and difficulty and whatnot put aside..I seriously believe that the quality of the combat music can help make or break a combat experience, and in AC Unity we really need to have some GOOD combat music.

If we are gonna go back to AC1 feel in Unity lol..then can we PLEASE have some AWESOME combat tracks like in that game as well???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oApJmfvoqY 0:40

Aphex_Tim
04-25-2014, 02:20 PM
I've actually started to dislike the combat music in every AC game. Since you just hear it a bazillion times per playthrough!

SpiritOfNevaeh
04-25-2014, 02:49 PM
I thought the AC3 combat music was awesome. My and my brother love it <3

Rugterwyper32
04-25-2014, 03:22 PM
I'll go with AC1, mostly because Access the Animus is there and it plays during combat with an assassination target/right after. And frankly, no track in the series has even gotten remotely close to as tense and amazing as that one was.

SixKeys
04-25-2014, 03:22 PM
AC2 wins just for this track alone, which was practically a hidden track, since you had to meet certain conditions to hear it:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC-lprWBEhY

AC2 also had several different combat themes depending on the city you were in.

Forlí: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVAmHAz5zos

Venice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5CiqFCgGmY

Florence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BES_FHjEIm8

jayjay275
04-25-2014, 04:03 PM
AC2 wins just for this track alone, which was practically a hidden track, since you had to meet certain conditions to hear it:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC-lprWBEhY

AC2 also had several different combat themes depending on the city you were in.


Why haven't I heard this track before!?

Anyway, if we are to have escape themes, then the chases need to actually be a challenge. Not only that, but there needs to be more than just one THEME, because repetitive themes will soon start to bore players.

pirate1802
04-25-2014, 04:10 PM
As fa as escape themes go, I doubt anything would be able to top Access the Animus. Speaking of combat music, AC2 wins hands down by the variety of tracks, as SixKeys says, by the location you're fighting in.

SixKeys
04-25-2014, 04:14 PM
Why haven't I heard this track before!?


You can only hear it in the game if in the final mission you make it to Rodrigo Borgia without becoming fully notorious. This is the track that plays when you fight him.

pirate1802
04-25-2014, 04:22 PM
Ah so this is the "bonus" track I heard about.

Locopells
04-25-2014, 05:09 PM
Well that's me buggered, I always do that final section in the Auditore cape

jayjay275
04-25-2014, 05:34 PM
Will remember that when I play through it again. :P

AherasSTRG
04-25-2014, 06:48 PM
AC2 hands down for me.

Assassin_M
04-25-2014, 07:14 PM
What's wrong with "each one"? or "every Combat theme"? or just adding the ability to vote for all? do I have to like JUST one? -_-

Wolf, you disappoint me

SpiritOfNevaeh
04-25-2014, 07:26 PM
What's wrong with "each one"? or "every Combat theme"? or just adding the ability to vote for all? do I have to like JUST one? -_-

Wolf, you disappoint me

Lol, he's just asking for a favorite even if you like all of it I guess.

I think it would've been better if the poll allowed multiple selections. :p

Assassin_M
04-25-2014, 07:29 PM
Lol, he's just asking for a favorite even if you like all of it I guess.

I think it would've been better if the poll allowed multiple selections. :p
What if I have no favorites? I like them all equally, it happens

yes, that

Shahkulu101
04-25-2014, 07:30 PM
You know what really grinds my gears? The fact that ACIV's main theme is hardly played throughout the game - I think I only heard it during the credits. Which is ashame because it's a really great track. Upbeat, piratey, catchy - it has it all. But nay, it is left underused. Real shame.

SpiritOfNevaeh
04-25-2014, 07:37 PM
What if I have no favorites? I like them all equally, it happens

yes, that

http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.608039877427792569&pid=1.7

Then don't vote and just say which ones you like in the posts :)

Oh wait, you already did lol ^_^


You know what really grinds my gears? The fact that ACIV's main theme is hardly played throughout the game - I think I only heard it during the credits. Which is ashame because it's a really great track. Upbeat, piratey, catchy - it has it all. But nay, it is left underused. Real shame.

True

Assassin_M
04-25-2014, 07:40 PM
http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.608039877427792569&pid=1.7

Then don't vote and say which ones you like in the posts :)
Looks like a Hookah
http://www.southsmoke.com/prod_images_blowup/Flying-Dragon-Hookah-3.jpg

but i want to vote...i feel like such an outcast

Shahkulu101
04-25-2014, 07:42 PM
What's the difference between a hookah and a shisha? I tried the latter, with fruit tobacco - quite the thing actually...

Assassin_M
04-25-2014, 07:58 PM
What's the difference between a hookah and a shisha? I tried the latter, with fruit tobacco - quite the thing actually...
Hookah is the pipe itself, Shisha is the tobacco

SpiritOfNevaeh
04-25-2014, 08:08 PM
Looks like a Hookah
http://www.southsmoke.com/prod_images_blowup/Flying-Dragon-Hookah-3.jpg

but i want to vote...i feel like such an outcast

You are not an outcast - We all love you here <3

Nice hookah lol... but I wouldn't start smoking just to own that ^_^

GunnerGalactico
04-25-2014, 08:26 PM
I'm also kind of undecided about this... I don't have a specific favourite :nonchalance:

But I'm gonna be unbiased about my decision, I'll have to go with AC2 because the soundtrack is intense.

I also liked AC3 and AC4 combat music.

Wolfmeister1010
04-25-2014, 08:37 PM
What's wrong with "each one"? or "every Combat theme"? or just adding the ability to vote for all? do I have to like JUST one? -_-

Wolf, you disappoint me

uh..

Maximum of ten options in poll..six games to choose from. at least 15-20 combat themes. That is the decision I ended up with. Maybe read the poll too. It says which one is the BEST..i.e., just because you pick one doesn't mean all the other ones are bad.

The poll is designed for in general..just added for fun. Defeats the purpose of the poll if you can vote for multiple. I ask which game in general you think has the best combat music. The thread is where you post specifics.

Quite an obtuse and insulting post. That is, unless you are trolling (I imagine you are, you are far too smart to post something like that) in which case ha ha

oliacr
04-25-2014, 09:37 PM
Not really a combat them but in my eyes it associated with assassinations so I consider it to a combat theme :) this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI7snsG00ps) So I vote on ACR, though I really liked all games but ACR has the best soundtrack.

DavidPage
04-25-2014, 09:44 PM
Not combat music related but AC music related. Where do we actually hear Fife and Drum tunes in ACIII? I only know of the single (annoying now) drum beat the coward soldiers have.

Assassin_M
04-25-2014, 09:50 PM
uh..
Maximum of ten options in poll..six games to choose from. at least 15-20 combat themes. That is the decision I ended up with. Maybe read the poll too. It says which one is the BEST..i.e., just because you pick one doesn't mean all the other ones are bad.
Yeah, maximum of 10, so you had 4 more options..


The poll is designed for in general..just added for fun. Defeats the purpose of the poll if you can vote for multiple. I ask which game in general you think has the best combat music. The thread is where you post specifics.
How does it defeat the purpose?


Quite an obtuse and insulting post. That is, unless you are trolling (I imagine you are, you are far too smart to post something like that) in which case ha ha
Not trolling, i'm serious and I didnt insult you anywhere...I even added the "wolf, i'm disappointed" to lighten up the aura of my post so it wouldn't seem aggressive or attacking

ACfan443
04-25-2014, 10:30 PM
Venice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5CiqFCgGmY

I can't quite recall where in the game that variation of Venice's combat theme is used, but I believe this is the correct one

http://youtu.be/R3hgfliowxE

Anyway, my vote goes to AC1, simply because 'Access the Animus' is one of the most (if not the most) excellently composed, thrilling, heartbeat-raising, adrenaline rush-inducing chase/combat themes in the entire series. I also loved the variety in the style of music AC1's combat themes had to offer.

Damascus and Acre's combat themes are also fantastic at making a rampantly violent situation feel fast paced and tense, there's this sense of urgency and danger you feel when they begin playing. AC2's combat themes follow closely second (although I wasn't much of a fan of Florence's - a little too peppy, cheerful and upbeat, not really what characterises combat music imo).

Ureh
04-25-2014, 11:59 PM
I'm kinda numb to the combat music. They're all good, especially if you listen to them a handful of times. But after killing tens of thousands of guards I start to forget most of them.

But AC1 fight tracks are the most unique to me. Sound like some kind of club music.

Wolfmeister1010
04-26-2014, 12:49 AM
Yeah, maximum of 10, so you had 4 more options..


How does it defeat the purpose?


Not trolling, i'm serious and I didnt insult you anywhere...I even added the "wolf, i'm disappointed" to lighten up the aura of my post so it wouldn't seem aggressive or attacking

1. So pleease educate me on how I can fit 15+ poll options for each combat theme into a ten option max poll! Can you not understand why I can't do what you want?? There are few I could do in theory. 1. Based on game in general, of based on each individual theme. One of the options is the only one to fit the poll quota of maximum options. I picked that one.

2.it defeats the purpose, because I made the poll to be "which game has the best overall" as in..maybe AC3 has one bad piece and one awesome piece..but AC2 has two okay pieces. So end up choosing one or the other. It is MY poll, and that is how I decided to arrange it:) if you choose two, that defeats the purpose of each participant having to decide between them all.

3. I do not think you are being aggressive. I think you are being irrational, with all due respect.

Assassin_M
04-26-2014, 07:35 PM
1. So pleease educate me on how I can fit 15+ poll options for each combat theme into a ten option max poll! Can you not understand why I can't do what you want?? There are few I could do in theory. 1. Based on game in general, of based on each individual theme. One of the options is the only one to fit the poll quota of maximum options. I picked that one.
I didn't say each combat theme...i just wanted one more options that says "I have no preference" or "undecided" or "I think they're all the best"


2.it defeats the purpose, because I made the poll to be "which game has the best overall" as in..maybe AC3 has one bad piece and one awesome piece..but AC2 has two okay pieces. So end up choosing one or the other. It is MY poll, and that is how I decided to arrange it:) if you choose two, that defeats the purpose of each participant having to decide between them all.
I love how you capitalized "MY" "this is MY poll...MINE"


3. I do not think you are being aggressive. I think you are being irrational, with all due respect.
you're being too touchy, wolf...you lash out at anything and anyone who's remotely "insulting" towards you. I don't know what's wrong with you but yeah, to avoid this getting out of hand, i'll just ignore any thread made by you from now on

jayjay275
04-26-2014, 07:53 PM
Please people, can we not turn a constructive thread into a destructive one? Enough derailment, if you're going to argue, take it to private messages please. I don't mean to be rude, but it isn't something the rest of the forum need to see. :)

Shahkulu101
04-26-2014, 07:54 PM
shut up zoidberg nobody cares what you have to say

jayjay275
04-26-2014, 08:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSJ9IiaEQ9g

Seriously though, I think AC2 and AC4's combat music are the best. AC3's was great, but it got very repetitive.

jayjay275
04-27-2014, 12:40 PM
As far as chase themes go, I think this one is one of the best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qjjqh2-LOo

Ureh
04-27-2014, 04:34 PM
@jayjay275 The Forum of the Ox them goes great with the freerunning! Although I always thought it was more of a chase theme.

jayjay275
04-27-2014, 05:29 PM
@jayjay275 The Forum of the Ox them goes great with the freerunning! Although I always thought it was more of a chase theme.

I know. :(

oliacr
04-27-2014, 06:59 PM
As far as chase themes go, I think this one is one of the best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qjjqh2-LOo

Best chase theme.

RinoTheBouncer
04-27-2014, 09:25 PM
The Brotherhood Escapes track is phenomenal. Though not really a combat track, more like combat-related. But it’s the best.

GunnerGalactico
04-27-2014, 09:31 PM
The Brotherhood Escapes track is phenomenal. Though not really a combat track, more like combat-related. But it’s the best.

That one is also one of my favourites.

I also kinda like the chase theme in AC4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zAHL6ECAiEE#t=4