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frodrigues55
04-16-2014, 11:30 AM
Hello, guys!

Round I is over and Damascus was chosen Assassin's Creed I's best city! Here's the results:


Damascus - 19 votes
Jerusalem - 10 votes
Acre - 8 votes
Masyaf - 3 votes
Kingdom - No vote

What's interesting is that almost everyone's second favorite is Acre, but the most voted favorites were either Jerusalem or Damascus. Another interesting point was that even though Jerusalem came second, almost no one commented explaining why, like most people who voted for the others did! Anyway, here's Round II, Assassins's Creed 2!

Vote on the poll and comment your choices below!

Voting closes saturday morning.

Options are...


Florence
http://i61.tinypic.com/ifpruo.jpg

Venice
http://i58.tinypic.com/2cnv615.jpg

Monteriggioni
http://i60.tinypic.com/vsmngh.jpg

Apennine Mountains
http://i58.tinypic.com/51o606.jpg

San Gimignano
http://i57.tinypic.com/2s94108.jpg

Forli
http://i57.tinypic.com/21ay161.jpg

frodrigues55
04-16-2014, 11:39 AM
I'll begin!

I basically like the game's main two cities - the other ones, no so much - especially Forli. They have good ambience, but their colors are... off, somehow. Is Forli supposed to be grey all the time?

I chose FLORENCE because of its warm colors and overall density. Developers did an amazing job, the city felt like HOME to me. Everytime we went back there, I had the urge to walk near the Auditore's house just to check how was it. There was a sense of comfort and familiarity walking those streets. Plus, the parkour was just great.

Venice also has its own special touches, I was torn between the two. The carnival and the overall architecture, those gorgeous landmarks... they nailed it. I wanted to vote for it, but didn't for two reasons: the water channels bugged me and got in my way at times, and the filter was just wrong. They should be away from filters... always.

oliacr
04-16-2014, 12:07 PM
This is a tough one Firenze, Venice and San Gimignano. Can't decide now.

Farlander1991
04-16-2014, 01:14 PM
I'm going to vote for Monteriggioni. Doesn't mean that I don't like other cities, or the atmosphere in them, or the music. Everything's awesome. But the reason why I choose Monteriggioni is the managing mechanic.

Economy in AC2 is broken. And villa management mechanically speaking is a joke. BUT. Atmospherically speaking. Arriving at the villa in the state where everything's destroyed and overgrown with t***** vines, and then as you rebuild it it gets brighter, more populated and more beautiful just made me fall in love with the location. Not to mention that the banking limit mechanic kind of nudged to return to it even when there was no story purpose to, and it felt nice to just roam there around. And the music is great too. There's hints of both mystery and sadness to it, which I think fit Ezio very well. It's funny that different people consider different cities home, because to me, Monteriggioni was home rather than Florence.

I was so attached to Monteriggioni that when I saw Brotherhood E3 presentation where all our work gets mercilessly destroyed in a siege really hurt me (but I think it's awesome that it did).

EDIT: Seriously, t***** is filtered? It's not like adjective of horn is applied only to non-safe-for-work uses >_< (The word I used was Thorn + y)

Farlander1991
04-16-2014, 01:20 PM
BTW, what about using this screens for Venice? More panoramic.

http://assassins-creed.ru/uploads/images/ac2/screenshot/ac2_loc (14).jpg

Also this is a cool Forli shot, although most of the city itself is in fog.
http://xboxlivemedia.ign.com/xboxlive/image/article/106/1063799/assassins-creed-2-battle-of-forli-screens-20100126024429297.jpg

frodrigues55
04-16-2014, 04:34 PM
^ Gonna see if I can change them later. I really like that pic of Venice though, I think it captures the overall feeling so well :p


Economy in AC2 is broken. And villa management mechanically speaking is a joke. BUT. Atmospherically speaking. Arriving at the villa in the state where everything's destroyed and overgrown with t***** vines, and then as you rebuild it it gets brighter, more populated and more beautiful just made me fall in love with the location. Not to mention that the banking limit mechanic kind of nudged to return to it even when there was no story purpose to, and it felt nice to just roam there around. And the music is great too. There's hints of both mystery and sadness to it, which I think fit Ezio very well. It's funny that different people consider different cities home, because to me, Monteriggioni was home rather than Florence.

The fact that they managed to make people feel at home, regardless of the city (Florence for me, Monteriggioni for you) is amazing in itself, isn't it? It show hows they managed to hook players inside that world and really connect to it, it blows me away. That first few missions with Ezio are a bit stupid if you think about it, but they were so important to make you familiar with the ambience.

I agree with everything you said about Monteriggioni too, although I can't pick it as my favorite. The destruction at the begining of ACB is probably one of my absolute favorite moments of the entire series - from the moment you go return to the town to the second you have to leave it in such a chaotic way. They seriously nailed that part (although that akward sex scene could really see some work).

Going back to it on present day was also some kind of genious.

oliacr
04-16-2014, 05:13 PM
Finally, I placed my vote on Venice - the overall feeling was the best there I really liked it, especially the carneval.

Firenze is the close runner-up.

DumbGamerTag94
04-16-2014, 05:21 PM
I picked monterrigioni just because you can literally build it from the ground up. And the villa was amazing after full upgrades and all the paintings. It went from a run down ghost town with vines and boarded windows to a thriving small city. The aesthetic of it changes. And you see the population density change. Just for this very good detail work on the city I choose it over the others. Forli is ugly. Sangimingino was ok. Florence was my close second. And Venice is very overrated IMO. Everything has that horrible blue grey tint and the canals are practically useless. The only great landmark is the tower and cathedral and that doesn't compare to il duomo in Florence IMO

Bastiaen
04-16-2014, 07:00 PM
I chose Florence because I think it had the best built for parkour, really better than in any AC game. I do like the bright colors in this instance. I feel like Florence and Rome have really similar parkour.

Sushiglutton
04-16-2014, 07:11 PM
Venice for me. It's kind of an obvious crowd pleaser, but hey I'm one of the crowd and I was pleased. Had some cool iconic buildings and I enjoyed platforming on the outside of the city with the Mediterranean as far as the eye could see. I also liked to parkour close to canals and when you finished a run with a nice dive. Cool atmosphere during the carnivale.

My second pick is probably San Gimignano because it really had that warm Tuscany feel and I enjoyed climbing around the towers.

I-Like-Pie45
04-16-2014, 07:26 PM
Florence is cool
So is San Gimignano
Monteriggioni is also cool

Venice was cool for the first ten minutes cuz boats n flying machine stuff then it got boring
Forli was just dull
The Mountains were just filler

Kaschra
04-16-2014, 08:32 PM
Oh, this is hard, Florence or Venice, Florence or Venice...
I love both cities equally :/

Eh... okay, I choose Florence.

LoyalACFan
04-16-2014, 08:34 PM
Weird blue filter aside, Venice is amazing. And the ambient score is just absolutely breathtaking. It's my only real option, tbh. I still consider it the definitive AC city, though Constantinople gives it a run for its money and I'm sure Paris will too if the score is anywhere near as good (come back Jesper :().

Not to say that the others didn't have their own distinct high points as well. Upgrading Monteriggioni still holds a certain charm even after replaying the game a few times, Florence was always so bright and warm, and San Gimignano's towers were nothing short of beastly. I didn't really care for the dim and dreary Forli that much, but the tomb was cool. And the Appenine Mountain map was just a road :p

GunnerGalactico
04-16-2014, 08:41 PM
I choose Venice as my first choice because it is very picturesque and I like the canals.

My second choice is Florence because I like its streets and architecture.

lothario-da-be
04-16-2014, 08:49 PM
Florence is amazing and indeed feels like "home" as others have said.
Vince would maybe have won if that damm filter wasn't there.
San Gimignano is cool, but compared too Florence its nothing.

Rugterwyper32
04-16-2014, 09:04 PM
Venice. Only real issue for me is the filter, which is the one instance where I'm not a fan of the use of a color filter. Beyond that, it's just a fantastic city with a very recognizable architectural style and interesting to navigate. I also spend a lot of time just walking around the many wonderful landmarks. It's great.
Frankly, when I first saw this city it's when I first had the idea of a game set during the Dutch Revolt and Amsterdam being a main city. It's still one of those things that I'd really love to see.

Florence comes in second. Pretty homely and nice, but I just prefer staying around Venice.

adventurewomen
04-16-2014, 11:17 PM
Venice was stunning :)

ACfan443
04-16-2014, 11:35 PM
Venice.
The carnevale and flight over Venice secured it a place in my top 3 most memorable locations in AC. The carnevale in particular was a testament to AC2's fantastic art direction.


http://youtu.be/W8Qz9ah8cKQ

Incredible atmosphere, excellent music and overall top notch presentation. One of my favourite assassination sequences in the game. (I realise the E3 demo above plays out slightly differently to the actual mission, but it's a close enough representation of the atmosphere in the game).

The city also boasts some of the most impressive landmarks in the series. Owing to its scale and extraordinary level of detail in its facade, Basilica di San Marco is one of my favourites. My main gripe which I evidently share with many others, is the blue filter. Venice looked so much better in the unadulterated screenshots.

Florence comes a close second, mainly because of that 'homely' feeling. I tend to end my free roam playthroughs by fast travelling back to Florence.

frodrigues55
04-17-2014, 02:50 AM
Jesus Christ, people - reading everyone's opinions is giving me an urgent urge to play AC2 again :nonchalance: I'm still on the middle of my AC1 playthrough but I can already hear AC2's ambience music playing in my head while I walk around in Venice.

Man, this game is awesome.

king-hailz
04-17-2014, 03:05 AM
Ok this is probably going to be the hardest one for me. Venice or Firenze! I really love Florence because of all that went down there... i mean i so have some sort of connection with that place, but Venice was just technically better in my opinion... from the architecture to the parkour and most of all the ambient music in that city was just to die for, this is probably my favorite city ever in the assassin's creed franchise!!

Assassin_M
04-17-2014, 04:27 AM
BTW, what about using this screens for Venice? More panoramic.

http://assassins-creed.ru/uploads/images/ac2/screenshot/ac2_loc (14).jpg


that would be just a tiny bit misleading, though..because of the filter, i mean...this is absolutely beautiful...because there's no filter but that's not how the city looks like unfortunately..

I-Like-Pie45
04-17-2014, 04:56 AM
why'd they put on that ugly filter anyways

Assassin_M
04-17-2014, 05:36 AM
why'd they put on that ugly filter anyways
to reflect the "wetness"
seriously, that's what they said...

They felt like all the humongous amount of canals wouldn't do the job, so they added a friggin filter -_-

http://www.cgsociety.org/index.php/CGSFeatures/CGSFeatureSpecial/assassins_creed_21

http://i.gyazo.com/b12710e2afbd2949ccc8a027d37a3709.png

I-Like-Pie45
04-17-2014, 06:19 AM
it just makes Venice seems pretty lifeless which is a pity because the filter turned me off of what was pretty much a well-designed city (that, and the guards + padding sequences)

Assassin_M
04-17-2014, 06:26 AM
it just makes Venice seems pretty lifeless which is a pity because the filter turned me off of what was pretty much a well-designed city (that, and the guards + padding sequences)
Agreed, i just felt that the life in Venice was reflected in the amount of color. The red bricks, the crimson roof tiles, the different paints on buildings, the colorful dresses and noble garments, all of that reflected in the beautiful and unique canals...with that filter i felt that ALL the color was drained and replaced with only one AND the uniqueness of the canals was gone.

Farlander1991
04-17-2014, 07:36 AM
Feels like I'm one of the few people who wasn't bothered by Venice filter.

SixKeys
04-17-2014, 07:40 AM
San Gimignano, no contest. I love the warmth and condensed feel of San Gimignano, and the beautiful countryside. It's kind of like a mini-playground like Masyaf or Monteriggioni.

I don't get why Venice is so popular among fans, it's my least favorite city in AC2 (although still enjoyable).

LoyalACFan
04-17-2014, 09:54 AM
I don't get why Venice is so popular among fans, it's my least favorite city in AC2 (although still enjoyable).

The actual content of the Venice section (barring the Carnevale) was actually kind of lame and filler-y IMO, but I loved the city itself. I could run around in it all day.

oliacr
04-17-2014, 10:52 AM
Feels like I'm one of the few people who wasn't bothered by Venice filter.

Not the only one. It wasn't a problem for me either.

frodrigues55
04-17-2014, 11:36 AM
The actual content of the Venice section (barring the Carnevale) was actually kind of lame and filler-y IMO, but I loved the city itself. I could run around in it all day.

Yeah, the city is gorgeous. Sure, the filters have made it a little dull, but everything else is spot on IMO. The canals bug the hell out of me, but that's my problem lol.

Wolfmeister1010
04-17-2014, 03:45 PM
I didn't mind the filter. Still my favorite AC city of all time. Just like how Acre had a deep blueish washed out filter and it was my favorite AC1 city by far. It was a little weird how bright the water was at night however.

I hope that we can get the AC2 system of cities where each city is truly unique in Unity. Paris should be damp, dark, and chaotic, while Versailles should be rocky, Mediterranean, much more of a port city feel.

I have a feeling that Unity will be all about returning to core AC, with the huge amount of NPCs reflecting that, perhaps a return to focus on social stealth. After such a light hearted game like AC4, a dark environment will be totally welcomed by me at least.

Assassin_M
04-17-2014, 05:04 PM
Feels like I'm one of the few people who wasn't bothered by Venice filter.
I'm only bothered by it because i fell in love with the Pre-E3 screenshots. Those had no filter and Venice looked beautiful to me.
Same way I hate the fact that Ubisoft changed Ezio's outfit...I loved the glove and larger, leather shoulder pad

Sushiglutton
04-17-2014, 05:08 PM
First time I played AC2 I had no clue there was even a thing like color filters, so it didn't bother me at all (ignorance is bliss). Now it does annoy me somewhat. The water is also pretty bad. It looks like they have poured milk into it.

Assassin_M
04-17-2014, 05:25 PM
First time I played AC2 I had no clue there was even a thing like color filters, so it didn't bother me at all (ignorance is bliss). Now it does annoy me somewhat. The water is also pretty bad. It looks like they have poured milk into it.
http://i.gyazo.com/6af224676862ec6c7e5207d69de4ae0b.png
http://i.gyazo.com/322dce3d880b965454f14f677297907c.png


http://i.gyazo.com/aeffa08d9617d34a4f6625288d13feb2.png
http://images.wikia.com/assassinscreed/images/f/f7/PonteRialtoDB.png

http://i.gyazo.com/aa33fd875479e4b68b51b46120d936c9.png

oliacr
04-17-2014, 05:27 PM
I'm only bothered by it because i fell in love with the Pre-E3 screenshots. Those had no filter and Venice looked beautiful to me.
Same way I hate the fact that Ubisoft changed Ezio's outfit...I loved the glove and larger, leather shoulder pad

Please show me that screenshot and Ezio's outfit, I would like to see that.

Assassin_M
04-17-2014, 05:31 PM
Please show me that screenshot and Ezio's outfit, I would like to see that.

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2009/06/AC2_S_012.jpg

http://0.tqn.com/d/compactiongames/1/0/b/j/1/assassins_creed_2_scr025.jpg

http://egmr.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/acnew1.jpg

oliacr
04-17-2014, 05:35 PM
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2009/06/AC2_S_012.jpg

http://0.tqn.com/d/compactiongames/1/0/b/j/1/assassins_creed_2_scr025.jpg

http://egmr.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/acnew1.jpg
Thank you!
The second picture without the filter looks amazing. There should have been an option for the filter :)

Farlander1991
04-17-2014, 05:58 PM
Aren't shoulder pads the same in both Ezio's? I like the glove design-wise, however a blade without a vambrace looks very funky to me.

On a funny note, Venice without filters kinda looks like New York :D But that aside, I actually can't say I prefer with 100% certainty the non-filtered variant. Though I also can't say the same regarding the filtered variant.

roostersrule2
04-17-2014, 05:58 PM
Firenze is my equal favourite city of the series, I love the music, the landscape, the colour, the buildings and the moments the city held within it.

The first couple hours of AC2 are some of my favourite gaming moments, and they're all contained in Florence.

Assassin_M
04-17-2014, 06:06 PM
Aren't shoulder pads the same in both Ezio's? I like the glove design-wise, however a blade without a vambrace looks very funky to me.
http://th02.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2010/193/f/7/Ezio_Auditore_18_by_wolverine_x_23.jpg
not really, the new one is thinner and less....noble looking imo. Heh, they went ahead and had it in Brotherhood anyway. a gauntlet-less glove :|

Farlander1991
04-17-2014, 07:40 PM
not really, the new one is thinner and less....noble looking imo.

Oh. I guess I was just comparing it with this screen where it's pretty much the same, but I suppose it's part of an armor set then:
http://assassins-creed.ru/uploads/images/ac2/screenshot/ac2_loc (117).jpg

Same thing with boots, btw, they're not actually the default ones in promo material, but the first set that you buy in the store tutorial mission at the villa IIRC.


Heh, they went ahead and had it in Brotherhood anyway. a gauntlet-less glove :|

Yeah, even if I went armor-less I would still buy a vambrace so it wouldn't be gauntless if I got a second blade.

Wolfmeister1010
04-17-2014, 07:53 PM
Parkour in Florence was kinda annoying to me. The buildings were too far apart for my taste. Although not nearly as bad as Rome. I do agree that, although I do not mind the filter that much, Venice looked much better without it.

SixKeys
04-18-2014, 01:29 AM
Honestly, I don't mind the Venice filter. The non-filtered screenshots don't raise my opinion of the city. The filter makes me think of Venice as cold and regal, like silver, whereas the non-filtered screenshots make it look slightly muddy and dusty. I guess if you were expecting a different look from the E3 marketing, you could be disappointed, but I didn't know anything about AC2 before I got it so I had no expectations. My first impression of Venice is the one that stuck.

Even though I generally like the "warmer" AC cities more, even the unfiltered Venice may just be too big and grand for my tastes. I prefer narrow streets, creaky houses, structures that are falling apart etc. Venice is full of tall, wide archways, large gaps for canals and grandiose architecture. Even Forlí, damp and colorless though it may be, has a more mysterious air to it with its cruddy buildings and murky streets.

thewhitestig
04-18-2014, 01:34 AM
Venice is hands down the best. Especially the soundtrack in Venice was just so awesome.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvZHAT7xHO4

Farlander1991
04-18-2014, 07:51 AM
Speaking of E3. Doesn't directly relate with how the city itself looks like, but flying through it during the Carnevale like in the E3 demo is so much more beautiful than with a clear sky.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8Qz9ah8cKQ

Dev_Anj
04-18-2014, 09:47 AM
Well, I don't know. I kind of liked running around Florence, it felt like a flourishing city with so many buildings coming up, painters at nearly every corner and such. San Gimignano, I did like the scenery from the top of the towers, but the actual city was small, and most of the surrounding area were just hills with nothing to freerun on. Monteriggioni did have a nice progression to it as you renovated more buildings and repaired its economy, but again there wasn't much to the actual city, and the surroundings were more or less plain land. Apennine Mountains was more or less a linear path with the occasional structure to climb. Forli again had a damp, decadant atmosphere but again, the actual city was too short, and on top of that, navigating some of the swamps got annoying. Venice has bright colours, a variety of locations, noticeable landmarks and such, but the canals seemed to get in the way of freerunning, and some building blocks felt too spaced out.

So yeah, I probably liked Florence the most, Venice the second most, and Monteriggioni the third most.

yankeegamergirl
04-18-2014, 05:03 PM
Op why do you make me make these choices.....very difficult. :) I loved all the cities for different reasons. Florence was stunning in itself, the free-running so fun, The Duomo, and the music just added to the city's atmosphere. I also loved (in the words of Lorenzo 'la bella Venezia') especially the palazzo de San Marco and the Dorsodoro district and as someone already mentioned the score of Venice was amazing. :) San Gimignano was lovely with its beautiful green fields and tall towers. I even liked Forli...I felt like I could smell the dank waters and marshy fields. Cleaning up Monterrigionni was a nice touch and here we got to see our money at work and as for the Mountains I loved them too even though they were a 'filler' it was a nice one with pleasant quiet music and I got to escort Leonardo down the road in a fun mission :) Aaahh AC II. I guess I will give my vote to Florence but I'm not quite sure yet. Glad Damascus won the first round btw.

inferno33222
04-18-2014, 09:11 PM
Florence is just so beautiful, set up so brilliantly, and with that music it just feels like home :)

Also, I prefer the filters. They make each city unique, while being subtle enough not to bother me.

frodrigues55
04-18-2014, 09:45 PM
Also, I prefer the filters. They make each city unique, while being subtle enough not to bother me.

My main problem with the filters is that they make the cities look washed out. I'm sure they can find a way to make them unique without sucking color variety out of it :p

Dev_Anj and yankeegamergirl, perfectly said! :o

Shahkulu101
04-18-2014, 09:49 PM
Appenine mountains. Best architecture by far. Seriously though, the ambient music there is beautiful - I think it's from AC1. It creates the chilliest of atmosphere and gives you that sense of haunting nostalgia - and like so many other tracks - reminds you how much you love the series.

But nah, that's not my choice. I love Florence. It was the first thing I seen in AC. That beautiful cathedral. Discovering the Parkour elements. Man, I ****ing love Assassins Creed.

SixKeys
04-18-2014, 11:34 PM
Appenine mountains. Best architecture by far. Seriously though, the ambient music there is beautiful - I think it's from AC1. It creates the chilliest of atmosphere and gives you that sense of haunting nostalgia - and like so many other tracks - reminds you how much you love the series.

But nah, that's not my choice. I love Florence. It was the first thing I seen in AC. That beautiful cathedral. Discovering the Parkour elements. Man, I ****ing love Assassins Creed.

Yay, someone else who loves the Apennine Mountains! I like to go there just to chill out on top of that random fort, and take badass screenshots of riding my horse through the countryside. :)

Shahkulu101
04-18-2014, 11:47 PM
Yay, someone else who loves the Apennine Mountains! I like to go there just to chill out on top of that random fort, and take badass screenshots of riding my horse through the countryside. :)

Haha, good stuff. :D I went back to check it out on my second play through having not realized it was even a location - then I remembered it from the carriage chase and was like ohhh. Then the piano from the ambient music creeped in and I felt implored to explore it. It's really relaxing just prodding along on my horse, looking at the view, inspecting the few buildings (one of these days I'll find an Easter Egg!) When I go to Forli or Vencie I almost never fast travel.

I hope people know I was kidding about the architecture lol - it being basically non-existent and all.

Locopells
04-19-2014, 01:17 AM
Venice for me. Carnevale is my favorite sequence, and I love the real-life city, so a no-brainer here...

Shahkulu101
04-19-2014, 01:19 AM
Venice for me. Carnevale is my favorite sequence, and I love the real-life city, so a no-brainer here...

What do you make of the sickly blue filter doh?

Megas_Doux
04-19-2014, 02:17 AM
Venice would be THE city in the franchise- along with Constantinople- had it not been for the awful blueish tone. I like it A LOT nonetheless, my vote was for Florence, by the way.

Locopells
04-19-2014, 03:01 AM
What do you make of the sickly blue filter doh?

Say what now? Call me blind, but...

Shahkulu101
04-19-2014, 03:05 AM
Say what now? Call me blind, but...

Venice has a Cyan color filter to reflect the 'wetness' - it makes everything look a washed out, and the canals don't stand out because of it. There are a'plenty of pictures of Venice without the colour filter that have been posted in this thread - check them out. Much better.

frodrigues55
04-19-2014, 01:47 PM
Guys, just to let you know this round is over. You can keep on commenting, but no votes count from now on, ok?

Locopells
04-20-2014, 12:03 AM
Venice has a Cyan color filter to reflect the 'wetness' - it makes everything look a washed out, and the canals don't stand out because of it. There are a'plenty of pictures of Venice without the colour filter that have been posted in this thread - check them out. Much better.

Oh, right. Never really bothered me like the white on in ACB, so never noticed it...