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XyZspineZyX
07-25-2003, 05:45 PM
I tired it for the first time on line few nights ago. I think it was 3x20 La7 And i gotta tell ya...NOT IMPRESSED. Sluggish, dull and engine dies from the puff of air /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif ...nothing uber at all. Then i took Yak3 for the spin... my god that plane can sing. Even with little ammo it can take 3-4 planes down in the same flight. Needless to say that it can absorb more 30mm rounds then IL2 /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif . As long as you stay below 3000m you can fly all night without being killed. Good thing that quiet a few LW guys are preferring turnfight with Yak3 instead of going vertical and draggin it where it doesn`t belong /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

After trying like 5-6 planes i came to conclusion that P-39q10 is da bird to fly on russian side. I mean Yak3 will bury it.. but that plane is simply unfair IMO. By the way the most memorable accounts i`v had online were.. me in G14 vs Gem and his damn P-39. Oh yeah...and Baron Von Giro in his Lagg /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif



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XyZspineZyX
07-25-2003, 05:45 PM
I tired it for the first time on line few nights ago. I think it was 3x20 La7 And i gotta tell ya...NOT IMPRESSED. Sluggish, dull and engine dies from the puff of air /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif ...nothing uber at all. Then i took Yak3 for the spin... my god that plane can sing. Even with little ammo it can take 3-4 planes down in the same flight. Needless to say that it can absorb more 30mm rounds then IL2 /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif . As long as you stay below 3000m you can fly all night without being killed. Good thing that quiet a few LW guys are preferring turnfight with Yak3 instead of going vertical and draggin it where it doesn`t belong /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

After trying like 5-6 planes i came to conclusion that P-39q10 is da bird to fly on russian side. I mean Yak3 will bury it.. but that plane is simply unfair IMO. By the way the most memorable accounts i`v had online were.. me in G14 vs Gem and his damn P-39. Oh yeah...and Baron Von Giro in his Lagg /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif



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XyZspineZyX
07-25-2003, 06:15 PM
I've been saying all along the Yak3 is better than the La7. I'm glad you agree.

btw..The two cannon La7 is not as sluggish.

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XyZspineZyX
07-25-2003, 06:24 PM
Oh, next time i`ll try 2 cannon one, tnx Buzz /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-25-2003, 06:44 PM
I don't know Ivan. I flew the La7 against late G's and 190s in a COOP once. Was like shootin' fish in a barrel. Of course, the German a/c were forced to stay low by the mission parameters.

XyZspineZyX
07-25-2003, 07:37 PM
Hmmm, I'm another LW guy who's flown the LA5-7 a few times. I can engage/disengage at will. No one can touch me if I'm smart. In the 109g-k La7s can touch me, squeeze me, and make me feel like a woman /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif .

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XyZspineZyX
07-25-2003, 07:44 PM
Guys, i`m not saying that LA`s are bad planes... all i am saying that i take K4 over it any day /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif ... maybe 3 gun version as Buzz said is not as good as 2 cannon one.
BTW properly flown 109 could be untouchable as well.. but still...Yak3 is something else...man

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XyZspineZyX
07-25-2003, 08:12 PM
Ivan,

I agree the K4 is untouchable if flown right. If flown wrong, than the La7/Yak3 will own you.

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XyZspineZyX
07-25-2003, 08:28 PM
Ya Yak3, My favorite AC to KILL, altho it takes 4 108 shells & laughs in my face.

Its very challanging to shoot down, especialy if your flying a FW190A9 mind you im not trying to turn with it /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Normaly what happens is I pound the crap out of it with my FW & then some rat fink in a Yak or LA7 comes along while im over the top & finishes the Limping Yak for me, wich realy chaps my hide, especialy since it took some fair amount of work to get the bandit Yak into a Limping state.


Yak3 Made of Ultra light weight Titanum, Imperviouse to blackout, Lead absorbing skin, Armament with laser like accuracy. (Olegs ride of choice ?)

Im not whining Im just stating the facts /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Dont get me wrong I will fly this devil bird when certain conditions are met, but for the most part I dont fly the Noob AC.



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XyZspineZyX
07-25-2003, 08:46 PM
Oleg's ride of choice is a BF109-K4 or G6-AS if I recall correctly.

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XyZspineZyX
07-25-2003, 09:43 PM
Yeah, I have always liked the Yak-3 alot better. You can down 2 or 3 planes in a sortie now, but if people start switching to the 190 after the patch then you will be lucky to get one, as a 190 will often eat your entire ammo load.

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XyZspineZyX
07-25-2003, 09:48 PM
kyrule2

Huh? I think the Fw190 is easier to knock out in the patch.

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XyZspineZyX
07-25-2003, 11:18 PM
You guys maybe know much about the planes in game,but you don`t have experience like it was in RL.Maybe K4 owns every La but everything depends on the situation.You guys fight in endless furballs,and all you have to do to return to the fight is respawning.


Even Maj_Death(or Major Pedro) won`t do much when after downing IL2 he`s stuck at 3000m with a La on his tail.

Bear in mind that it isn`t very useful to climb to 8000m and try to spot a bomber formation at 3000m.In order to escort/recon/S&D LW must stay at max 6000m.That`s where climb ability doesn`t count.La/Yak3/P39 will be there,at 6000m,because it had time to get there.Unless LW pilot is a true Ace,he won`t win a equal-alt fight.

What I`m trying to say is that there are many missions where B&Z isn`t an option.

DF servers don`t include this.

Really guys.Don`t tell me that a plane,when flown right,can do wonders.It`s plain BS.Summing it up into one sentence is BS.

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XyZspineZyX
07-25-2003, 11:20 PM
kyrule2 wrote:
- Yeah, I have always liked the Yak-3 alot better. You
- can down 2 or 3 planes in a sortie now, but if
- people start switching to the 190 after the patch
- then you will be lucky to get one, as a 190 will
- often eat your entire ammo load.

Actually 190 is not that hard to bring down... engine dies quickly after couple of 20mm rounds fried from Yak3`s lazer gun /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif ... And MG rounds ruin controls with equal success on any planes lol.

Actually if you can bring A9 with dual MK108`s on the firing position and line up say 200m behind Yak3....or any other plane...except P-47 and TB3 ... you can kiss your opponent good bye /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-25-2003, 11:22 PM
Nah.. LA7 is the best http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I like the 2 cannon one more because it has more ammo. LA7 is strafing better than Yak3 even if it seems to have difficulty. That's what I think. Yak3 is more stable but it seems like there is a limit in the turns. However LA7 with the right controls can turn much faster than YAK3 I think.

XyZspineZyX
07-25-2003, 11:24 PM
I`m sorry mate...but Yak3 will outurn...and outclimb LA7...at least that is my impression

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XyZspineZyX
07-25-2003, 11:37 PM
The only La i like is the Lagg3 IT.
Can't stand the La5 or La7.
There crap... flew in a coop against some G6s and got my assed handed to me on a plater... the 109G6s were TURNING with my La5s... and they won,, i got shot to pieces no idea how. I kept expecting them to zoom away.. but then it turned into a turn fight and i lost.
Yak3 is to easy to kill people, no fun.
Yak 9K and Yak9T are much more fun, esp when you hit someone with the K... BOOM!
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XyZspineZyX
07-25-2003, 11:40 PM
La-7s, don't like 'em - you dive and you tear the darn wings off, you turn and insta blackout. Yak3s - don't like them either. Insta turn, you black out quickly, and most of all I overshoot with it a lot!

I'll stick with the P-47.

XyZspineZyX
07-26-2003, 12:05 AM
crazyivan1970 wrote:
- By the way the most memorable accounts
- i`v had online were.. me in G14 vs Gem and his damn
- P-39. Oh yeah...and Baron Von Giro in his Lagg.

Gem in his P39? I ownz him (almost) everytime in my 1B /i/smilies/16x16_robot-tongue.gif

With Yak 3 vs K4, if K4 has the slightest speed/alt advantage before merge, yak 3 is condemned IMO. If not....

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XyZspineZyX
07-26-2003, 12:18 AM
Just one note:

It's not a good idea to go vertical against a Yak. at least with a Fw190D. If you climb too steeply the yak will catch up. A shallow climb will be better, or even better to dive.

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XyZspineZyX
07-26-2003, 03:02 AM
Buzz, I posted in another thread that I agree with what most people say about 08 patch, but to me the damage model didn't seem any different. The planes that were immune to small mg's still are. if that is any indication. No doubt the Mk-108 got a major rework, much more accurate and no "duds". The .50's seem to have MAYBE a little more punch, possibly due to less recoil/spread. I agree P-47 has more punch than the P-40 now. I've always thought the .50's were decent, just not against certain planes.

But I can still dump most of my Yak or P-47 ammo into a 190 without bringing it down. It still seems to have spots that are extremely vulnerable, like rear fuesalage/tail junction but it still eats an insane amount of ammo at times. If you are flying the 190 it is a different story, much more vulnerable. 190's may be SLIGHTLY more vulnerable in 08, but not much if they are. Yaks toughness didn't seemed changed either so who knows.

Oh, and I agree. 190A-9 with twin Mk-108's is deadly as hell and is my favorite axis bird.


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Tully__
07-26-2003, 01:10 PM
I tend to prefer the Lavochkin's to the Yak's. Never really liked the Yak's for some reason.

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XyZspineZyX
07-26-2003, 06:32 PM
NN_Veverka wrote:
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- crazyivan1970 wrote:
-- By the way the most memorable accounts
-- i`v had online were.. me in G14 vs Gem and his damn
-- P-39. Oh yeah...and Baron Von Giro in his Lagg.
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- Gem in his P39? I ownz him (almost) everytime in my
- 1B

LOL Vev...why don`t you take 109 and try to ownz him again /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-26-2003, 09:40 PM
why does no one recognize that the yak-9K is one of the most deadly planes in the game if flown right ( read: if pilot has good aim)


I've only seen one single engine a/c take more than one hits to down, and that was the famous ironsides IL-2 . . and after two hits it was gone.

and the 9K can take a respectable amount of damage before it gives up . . in fact, i've only had my engine rendered useless a few times, mostly my deaths are due to getting too close to enemy fighter and shearing a wing off my plane (I like to be close with the 9K, I don't have verymuch cannon ammo . . . . )

imho, yak-9K can be the deadliest aircraft of Il-2, and here is why; no matter you outmatched in speed and maneuverability, no matter how slow and low you are and no matter how high and fast your enemy is . . . if you can muster the energy to face him for a little second on his initial pass . . . at that moment the fight is equal. You only need to hit him once. If your aim is good, you can do it easy. No plane is immune to this. i've seen a Pe-8 go down with one hit (a well placed one, though) and I've seen a 109 disentegrate as the result of a wingtip or mid fuselage hit. It doesn't matter if he can zoom off or outturn you because all you need is that one chance and then all advantages he has are rendered irrelevant.

XyZspineZyX
07-26-2003, 09:49 PM
Because it's to noobish, to lame, to easy, and no challenge. Need more reasons?

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XyZspineZyX
07-26-2003, 11:00 PM
LOL Buzz. With that 109 as your sig you almost sound believable. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-26-2003, 11:09 PM
I like LA5-7 because of it's very basic and straight forward construction and just the way it looks. Yak3, though, is a better plane, its quicker, turns better, and climbs better. Damage wise, La5 I think is better, except for weird engine shot-ups.

Yak3 and its small armament though, make it hard for me to fly, since I'm not a very good shot.

Also, la5-7, is more survivable during online fights, when you dont see bullets flying even close to you, but u find your fuel tank leaking. Crappy....lag/netcode, whatever u wona call it.

XyZspineZyX
07-27-2003, 12:55 AM
La-7,Yak-3 are untouchable if flown right.Can eat alive anything without any problems.Do not care if they are newbie-friendly.La-7,Yak-3 won the air war on Eastern front or should I say in world war 2.Weather we like it or not.Really like both of them.

XyZspineZyX
07-27-2003, 05:26 AM
Gustoy wrote:
- La-7,Yak-3 are untouchable if flown right.Can eat
- alive anything without any problems.Do not care if
- they are newbie-friendly.La-7,Yak-3 won the air war
- on Eastern front or should I say in world war
- 2.Weather we like it or not.Really like both of
- them.

Yes, yes, yes and had the war continued and the Great Mother Russia crushed the other allies the Yak-3 would've been the nemesis of the P-51 and Spitfires...... ehm, oh sorry, just got carried away...../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-27-2003, 06:21 AM
Your answers have been ridiculous lately and you sound more than 'funny'.It looks like somebody hurt you.Get some rest dude.

XyZspineZyX
07-27-2003, 08:20 AM
Basically the late 109s are all too fast, La-5FNs and Yak-3 maneuver too well, and the La-7s are too slow.

Therefore, people who were used to how La-5FNs maneuverd in IL-2 feel awkward towards the La-7, since the improved energy retention of the German planes in FB make it a tougher challenge for La5FNs than it used to be in IL-2. So, people who used to do certain things in IL-2, with great effect, can't do those things in FB with a La-7.

The Yak-3 is a plane which offers one of the best balanced performance between maneuverability and speed, and since the La-7 isn't that significantly faster than the Yak-3, no reason to fly it.

Also, almost all the late 109s out-run the La-7. The G-6/AS. G-10, G-14 and the K-4 are all average 20~30km/h faster in FB, than actual records indicate, while the La-7 in FB records about 20km/h slower than suggested.

So, in other words, the La-7 is undermodelled.

Imagine that all the late 109s do only about 590~600km/h as they should, and the La-7 does close to what our current K-4 would do, near the 610~620km/h range(my test results were 627km/h for the K-4. It is actually very conservative, as there are other test reports from IL-2 players indicating even up to 635km/h)

In that case, I would, without hesitation, say the plane with the best balance between speed and maneuverability, not to mention one of the fastest planes on deck alts, is definately the La-7.


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XyZspineZyX
07-27-2003, 10:54 AM
I've always been a Yak advocate but currently the Lavochkin is my ride of choice. Like the Tempest, it has alot of the qualities I would want in a "real-life" aircraft. Plus it has alot more character and is just plain cooler than the Yak series.





Message Edited on 07/27/03 10:30AM by kyrule2

Message Edited on 07/28/0308:44AM by kyrule2

XyZspineZyX
07-27-2003, 04:35 PM
kyrule2

I see you gave up picking planes that give you a challenge to win in?

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XyZspineZyX
07-27-2003, 08:19 PM
BuzzU wrote:
- kyrule2
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- I see you gave up picking planes that give you a
- challenge to win in?

Buzz, since I still have 08 I'm only playing offline right now. When the official patch is released then I'll make my decision. When a Spitfire or the Tempest is released then nothing else will matter. It sucks waiting for your favorite plane, and nothing in FB grabs me. I don't fly LW anymore because of the whining. Btw Buzz, you have a 109 as your sig, if that is what you are flying then you have forgone the challenge more so than I (except in '43).

109's and Yaks are better than Lavochkins (except in '43) IMHO. After patch maybe the P-39 (already is in '42) and Dora (in '44) as well. Don't tell me you have bought into the whole "noob plane" concept?



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XyZspineZyX
07-27-2003, 08:27 PM
The true challenge of fighting in the La series is not in the killing, but rather in staying alive (insert BeeGees song here).

The La series is highly prone to:

Pilot kills

Elevator control damage

Plus it provide a massive profile for easy hits by Mk108



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XyZspineZyX
07-27-2003, 09:29 PM
kyrule2

Yes, i'm flying the 109, but it's the F4 only. Try it against La7/Yak3. It's a bit of a challenge.

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XyZspineZyX
07-27-2003, 10:15 PM
BuzzU wrote:
- kyrule2
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- Yes, i'm flying the 109, but it's the F4 only. Try
- it against La7/Yak3. It's a bit of a challenge.

Well, thats different, and yes that would be a challenge. The F-4 is a great "all around plane" like the P-39, glad you found one to settle on. Damn, Spit/Tempest can't get here soon enough.



Message Edited on 07/28/0308:46AM by kyrule2

XyZspineZyX
07-28-2003, 09:43 AM
On second thought its back to the FW-190 for me, I can't let the Luftwhining keep me out of my favorite crate in FB. While doing extensive reading and while playing FB it is the only plane that has given me an extra burst of adrenaline. It will be great training for the Tempest (and hopefully Typhoon someday). They both use hit & run tactics, have similar armament, and even the forward cockpit bars are alot alike. I don't care if I get waxed flying the 190, I'll have fun doing it. I love fighter/bomber hit and run stuff (see Typhoon/Tempest), and the 190 does it well. This is it, until the Tempest/Typhoon, or Spitfire are released I'll be in my Focke-Wulf. Thanks for listening. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-28-2003, 10:03 AM
You mean to tell me that other fighters in FB besides the FW190 are flyable?

It never occured to me to try any of the other fighters.

Why would anyone want to do that? That's so ghey!


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07-28-2003, 02:10 PM
Long live the 190! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-29-2003, 02:21 PM
kyrule2 wrote:
- On second thought its back to the FW-190 for me, I
- can't let the Luftwhining keep me out of my favorite
- crate in FB. While doing extensive reading and while
- playing FB it is the only plane that has given me an
- extra burst of adrenaline. It will be great training
- for the Tempest

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another one lost to the dark side!!

No Kyrule say it aint so! Friends don't let friends fly Hun ya know....

I know it's just A top secret project to find the weakneses of the FW & report back to our Tempest units in training....

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XyZspineZyX
07-29-2003, 03:56 PM
Saburo,

Shhhh! They are watching. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


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XyZspineZyX
07-29-2003, 07:07 PM
GR142_Astro wrote:
- The true challenge of fighting in the La series is
- not in the killing, but rather in staying alive
- (insert BeeGees song here).
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- The La series is highly prone to:
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- Pilot kills
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- Elevator control damage
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- Plus it provide a massive profile for easy hits by
- Mk108
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I have to disagree.. not only LA-5 sustain a lot of MK108 hits, (sometimes up to 8 hits!!), Pilot kills are very very very rare.. All the flying I have done I only managed to get a couple of LA-5 PKs..

And ´never controls damaged.. certainly not in the way with BF109.. and LA5 takes a lot of punishment from the MG131 too..

La5 simpy owns at 42/43.. and so does the Yaks.. Call me a luftwhiner, but there are dozens of small things like this making the overall balance to favour VVS.. That is why I fly LW.. because of the challenge.. (and other reasons too, yes ).. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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