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porcupine1
03-15-2004, 01:34 PM
WOW ive drivin trucks with flat tires that stear beter then this, is this a bug? Ive seen video of this plane turning much sharper than it does in the game. It is almost impossable to use online because of this! ??

porcupine1
03-15-2004, 01:34 PM
WOW ive drivin trucks with flat tires that stear beter then this, is this a bug? Ive seen video of this plane turning much sharper than it does in the game. It is almost impossable to use online because of this! ??

BlitzPig_DDT
03-15-2004, 01:57 PM
Where have you seen video of this plane? Can you provide a link? I'd very much like to see it. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Dr.Oktylizer
03-15-2004, 01:58 PM
its a problem with almost all front wheel equipped planes in FB. Try using brakes. i hope it will be fixed sometime

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porcupine1
03-16-2004, 02:55 AM
the video was on the history channel thats about all the info i can give I think the plane was a captured 162 in british colors. it turned fairly quickly but not super fast, but the FB method of turning is insane. traveling down the taxiway i couldnt hit the runway. I couldent even make the oppisite taxiway. I know i need to use the brakes but wow!

DeerHunterUK
03-16-2004, 06:26 AM
Just out of interest, what speed were you travelling at when you were trying to turn?

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AirBot
03-16-2004, 07:01 AM
Yeah the He162 apparently has nosewheel steering. You can see the nosewheel from inside the cockpit and watch it turn in response to your rudder inputs.
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to correspond to any actual steering of the aircraft.

Tully__
03-16-2004, 07:08 AM
Apply brakes & rudder together to get differential braking.

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3.JG51_Stecher
03-16-2004, 07:46 AM
I don't think how to steer the 162 is what's being questioned here. It's the fact that it hardly does. The 262 steers well enough, but is not even close to accurate ground handling with differential braking. The 162 is by far worse. At any speed, it is pretty much impossible to stay on the taxi roads in a turn with differential braking.

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03-16-2004, 07:48 AM
b1 is horrible :\

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AirBot
03-16-2004, 11:28 AM
Can anyone answer me though:

The He162 apparently has nose-wheel steering. Why doesn't it work then?

Spinne_3.-JG51
03-16-2004, 12:28 PM
Probably a game engine limitation.

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mortoma
03-16-2004, 03:27 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Spinne_3.-JG51:
Probably a game engine limitation.

I think you are right, that would explain why the 262 is so hard to steer on the ground too. The 162 is terrible. Maybe the game was set up more for tail-wheel planes with props and this had an effect on nose wheel steering w/o props?? I think they set it up to use a lot of prop wash on those rudders. May explain why the P-39 and King Cobra both steer reasonalby well, they at least have prop wash against those rudders, even though they have nose wheels. Unfortunately IL2 and FB have a lot of "game engine limitations". Apparently they never thought ahead. Still a great sim though.

tfu_iain1
03-16-2004, 04:46 PM
in fairness, i think il2 worked out a lot more successful than 1c expected... so no, they didnt plan ahead, because they never expected to have to stretch the game engine this far. unlike with MS, who expect large modding markets for their games, build them inefficient, but adaptable.

but ill take game speed over versatility any day. id rather have a game that runs well within limits than one than delivers the world at 7 fps