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Wilhelm_Hartas
03-14-2004, 08:08 AM
Looking at getting some 3D glasses for the comp, these ones are pretty cheap and seems to have a high average review across the net:

http://www.edimensional.com/products/edglasses.htm

Are 3D-glasses worth it or is it just best to stick with a monitor.

NB - Mostly be playing IL2:FB and FPSes

Thanks Hartas.

Wilhelm_Hartas
03-14-2004, 08:08 AM
Looking at getting some 3D glasses for the comp, these ones are pretty cheap and seems to have a high average review across the net:

http://www.edimensional.com/products/edglasses.htm

Are 3D-glasses worth it or is it just best to stick with a monitor.

NB - Mostly be playing IL2:FB and FPSes

Thanks Hartas.

Punik
03-14-2004, 08:25 AM
Well... The 3D Glasses have their pros and cons... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Cons are: Lousy Stereo3D support from nVidia, Problematic installation particulary in IL2 Sturmovik. I personally have been trying thousand times to get it running, sometimes I have been successful. Beware that you will have to use VERY old Detonators, if you wanna see anything. I think the correct version for stereo3D is 42.xx. If you are going to buy that, be ready to be patient. Or pacient. Whatever way you feel. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Pros: You will experience someting which can't be told, described or otherwise passed. The 3D view is absolutely astonishing, especially when you get used to 3D and can handle a bigger stereo separation. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif If you will fly externals then, you will see your plane come out of the screen for about 15 - 30 cm. Flying and targeting also gets a whole new perspective, as you see the 3D cockpit "moving around you", you suddently notice how is the cockpit MEANT to look like. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Conclusion: If you want to enrich your gaming experience buy it, but be prepared to suffer before it runs smoothly (especially in IL2 series)... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Hope this helps, salut!

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Gadje
03-14-2004, 08:44 AM
And they are totally crap with ATI cards, even with your resolution @ 100hz you only see the screen at 50hz, Yuk!

I'm keeping mine in hope though as they emailed to say they are working on the ATI res problem and new drivers out soon. Won't hold my breath http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

p1ngu666
03-14-2004, 09:08 AM
eyestrain city :|

http://www.pingu666.modded.me.uk/mysig3.jpg

Gadje
03-14-2004, 09:20 AM
Indeed- 2 hours with a frozen bag of peas, 2 cucumber slices and a handful of asprin and everything was fine. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Blubble
03-14-2004, 10:08 PM
My buddy bought a pair. I think they were E-Dimensional, but I think they are all essentially the same. We tried them with F1-2002(racing game) and they were very hard to get tuned. They quickly give you a headache and have generally bad picture quality.

Punik
03-15-2004, 12:57 AM
Regarding the eyestrain - that is true. It is imperative to tune the glasses correctly and start at lower stereo separation at first. Also, very important thing to the glasses is: the better monitor you have, the better. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I have an EIZO 21" baby, able to run at 1280x1024@100Hz and let me tell you - 100 Hz refresh rate is the MINIMUM for safe play. If you can push the temp0 up to 160 or even 200 Hz, you will experience very smooth and long lasting play... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Also you will notice, that with these goggles you won't need resolution as much as refresh rate speed. That means, that you can easily play the games at 800x600 or 1024x768, because you won't recognize single-pixel-grapic in 3D anyway. Expect some blur. The blur and "ghosting effect" is also very much dependent on the quality of your monitor, especially the CRT falloff time. If you have something decent (it doesn't have to be EIZO http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ), then these "ghosts" will add to the scene blur, so it looks like a full screen anti-aliasing. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Also, regarding the FPS games - there is one thing wich might seem strange. You will see everyting in 3D, BUT - often you will see your HUD is the closest thing to you, which looks great BUT - the closest thing will be CROSSHAIR TOO. So optically, you will be aiming at your enemies at distance with crosshair glued 30 cm ahead of you. But one can get used to it and if not, then there is a generic workaround with crosshairs supplied from nVidia.
Also please note, I have all the experience with nVidia card, so I have no idea how the ATI handles this.
And finally, regarding the setup of the glasses - don't get discouraged by the challenge. Unfortunately consumer Stereo3D is not the mainstream yet, so there is relatively little effort put to it. You have to work it out yourself, but the experience is really rewarding. And once you get used to it, the eyestrain and headaches will be gone and you will be playing a true 3D even today, while the whining masses will watch holograms in Star Trek in 2D. Fighters always win, because they won over their lazy self... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

PS: If you want to see razor sharp 3D with optional head gyro, there is a little gadget out there for you: http://www.nvisinc.com/literature/nvisor-sx_brochure.pdf
But - the price is... More pricey... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/784.gif 23 900,- USD. Now you choose which way you wanna go... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
When I will be rich (and I surely will be http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif) I will go for the NVIS system. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif That much I am confident in 3D technologies... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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