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Magister__Ludi
02-11-2004, 09:53 AM

Magister__Ludi
02-11-2004, 09:53 AM

VonShlagnoff
02-11-2004, 09:59 AM
see the cockpit thread for a partial solution

mr_Decent
02-11-2004, 10:12 AM
I´d buy it

BP_caocao
02-11-2004, 10:56 AM
If it had an Fw-189 I'd pay 100 bucks for it.

LEXX_Luthor
02-11-2004, 11:26 AM
Two engines

Two wings

The more the better

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VF-17_WOODMAN
02-11-2004, 11:48 AM
Oh yes please I would pay just for a JU88 and a B-25 OH and a Pe-2 of course

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Bearcat99
02-11-2004, 02:10 PM
I would buy any and every add on for FB as long as it was made by Oleg & 1C, or someone whom they OK like Luthier's upcoming stuff sight unseen the day it was released.

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VW-IceFire
02-11-2004, 02:50 PM
Lets be clear...I wouldn't support a specifically "twin engined" addon pack to Forgotten battles. Thats economic, marketing, and common sense suicide by my guesses.

We're getting more two engined aircraft and the possibility of more on the way. The B-25 series looks nearly ready...the Pe-2 is now being modeled, we now have a 39 and a 110...someone is doing a 410.

If we get these then I'll be VERY happy because they are interesting aircraft, they are new flyables, they add new dimension to FB, and because its fun. Not because they have two engines. Its a bigger deal than I think it needs to be...yes the game needs more twin engined flyables but they are in the works and I hope we'll get them soon in a nice package (patch or otherwise), historically modeled, skinned, and armed. I'm hoping maybe more Western front maps, the remaining Spits, Tempests, Typhoons, and the whole works come out a bit later in some fashion or another.

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RAAFVirt75th
02-11-2004, 05:10 PM
Ludi,

How about the Hudson bomber, many shipped to and used by Russians in WW2. Also used extensively by RAAF and RAF in Europe, Africa, Middle East, Greece etc and importantly Pacific Theater.

Although I am really hanging for the PBY to become flyable - Gibbage is working on a project at moment - the Hudson bomber seems to have been largely forgotten but extensively used.

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RAAFVirt75th
02-11-2004, 05:11 PM
Oh yeah the Supermarine Walrus and Avro Anson would be cool as well.

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VF-17_WOODMAN
02-11-2004, 05:18 PM
The flyable PBN is a very nice idea and all but wouldn`t it
be better as a PBY-5a (as in having some wheels ) or is there a map with a good harbour?

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crazyivan1970
02-11-2004, 05:22 PM
I`d buy any addons that contain aircraft that is not present in the game yet... bombers, fighters...

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RAAF_Axxe_
02-11-2004, 07:11 PM
I'd buy an add on but I'd prefer a free one, and yes a couple more twins would be nice.

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RAAF_Mako
02-11-2004, 09:55 PM
Even a single twin engine bomber be nice for vvs side of things.

woofiedog
02-11-2004, 10:28 PM
Twin engines aircraft would give a totaly new aspect to the game. Having the fire power to attack naval convoys would be a Blast!
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lbhskier37
02-12-2004, 12:18 AM
Icefire would get on our side if they added a Warwick, Wellington, or a Handley-Page Hampden(those look especially fun.

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269GA-Veltro
02-12-2004, 01:20 AM
Good pool!

Totally agree and i'll buy it for sure.

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LEXX_Luthor
02-12-2004, 02:34 AM
And Veltro it must include anything with name that begins with "2" http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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Magister__Ludi
02-12-2004, 04:33 AM
It seems that a lot of people are interested in multi engine planes, some even very interested http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif . Keep it comming!

DeerHunterUK
02-12-2004, 05:19 AM
Yes, I'd certainly pay for it.The skill, time & effort required to get a twin engined aircraft (especially if you're going to add crew stations) is enormous.Having a Mossie, Beaufighter or Wimpy in the game would just be too much for me not to rush out and buy the pack. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

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Therr_
02-12-2004, 06:41 AM
2 engines... oh sure i'll be paid http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

i'll be paid too for add-onhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif he he, it will be cool to be able to fly Bf-110G and attack ground or the same with P-38

bombers ... i like to fly bombers, he-111 in the night and in the future ju-88, do-17 and pe-2 and B-25

and do not forget... fly on P-61 Black Widow and hunt for bombers over Pacific.....

JorBR
02-12-2004, 06:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bearcat99:
I would buy any and every add on for FB as long as it was made by Oleg & 1C, or someone whom they OK like Luthier's upcoming stuff sight unseen the day it was released.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

My words exactly.

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Willi_Wombat
02-12-2004, 08:21 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bearcat99:
I would buy any and every add on for FB as long as it was made by Oleg & 1C, or someone whom they OK like Luthier's upcoming stuff sight unseen the day it was released.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

My words exactly, actually, they're Bearcat's words, but if I would have gotten up earlier this morning, they would have been mine.

Bring on the twins!

WW

VOL_Mountain
02-12-2004, 11:08 AM
Yes, I'd pay twice the price for the add-on if it had 10 different twins!

One comment: Just as the IL-2 field-mod is modled with only an ai tail gunner, If some of the magnificent twin engine aircraft have pilot cocpit complete yet lack various gunner positions, release the a/c with the pilot and bombadier pits only and let the ai man the guns. This is a way to "short cut" the development process if all required internal details are not available.

Mtn.

Oleg_Maddox
02-12-2004, 11:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I know that the twin we got and the ones we'll get in the Aces add-on are also 3rd party models, but there seems to be little interest among the modellers to get into such difficult projects as the twins are.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The only one model for the last time that wasn't reworked or totally reworked or done from zero (even when listed as third party) by us is the Gladiator. This was done by a professional.
So we are like a school for third party modellers, that learn our technologies and simply learn how to make 3D model by right rules. 4 of modellers that were doing models for IL-2 have now job positions just becasue of this experience.
Also to make any model alive in a sim isn't easy. We are not Gods! All take a time and resources like human and money... So even if the third party model is done 100% correct we ourselves spend a lot of time that to program it.... Even with such good job as Bf-110 cockpit.

I future you will get B-25 flyable. 100% sure. Because it is in development of our team currently.
Also there will be more twins probably http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

But I don't promise Pe-2 or Tu-2. Pe-2 was started by third party 4 times. No one finished. It is far more complex inside than say He-111.
Ju-88 is in work by Jan already about one year. He did at first great research. So great that we are glad that he doing it... But modeling of this plane is really not easy that to make it looking really close to real inside. Say no one sim before had this plane cockpits modelled correct.

And.... There are not any scombat simulatro at the moment that has so much done inone sim. It will be AEP. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Then will be prbably much more.

Engine of FB can hangle twins easy.

woofiedog
02-12-2004, 02:26 PM
Thank's for the information Oleg and I can't wait to get strap into one of the new aircraft coming up.
It good to hear the B-25 is in the future along with some of the other twins. The twins will be a great addition for building some missions involving Naval Campaigns and Land Missions.
Good to hear from you Oleg,THANK'S!

oFZo
02-12-2004, 02:52 PM
Defenitely good to see you posting again, Oleg! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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VW-IceFire
02-12-2004, 04:36 PM
B-25's, Bf 110G's, a Ju-88...all of these do indeed make me happy. I'm still mostly a single engined fighter guy most of the time but I'm very much looking forward to a P-38 and one of the posters back on Page 1 is definately right that I'd be even more interested with something like a Halifax or a Lancaster (one flies over my house from time to time - its a fantastic thing!) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

Keep fighting the good fight Oleg...great to hear from you and its great to hear about these projects! Always appreciated!

One of the first things I want to do when AEP shows up: P-38 ground attack co-ops (and unrelated Spitfire missions http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif).

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BfHeFwMe
02-12-2004, 06:15 PM
I'd like one split axis throttles set to go with my twin please.

E_Temperament
02-12-2004, 06:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Oleg_Maddox:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I know that the twin we got and the ones we'll get in the Aces add-on are also 3rd party models, but there seems to be little interest among the modellers to get into such difficult projects as the twins are.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The only one model for the last time that wasn't reworked or totally reworked or done from zero (even when listed as third party) by us is the Gladiator. This was done by a professional.
So we are like a school for third party modellers, that learn our technologies and simply learn how to make 3D model by right rules. 4 of modellers that were doing models for IL-2 have now job positions just becasue of this experience.
Also to make any model alive in a sim isn't easy. We are not Gods! All take a time and resources like human and money... So even if the third party model is done 100% correct we ourselves spend a lot of time that to program it.... Even with such good job as Bf-110 cockpit.

I future you will get B-25 flyable. 100% sure. Because it is in development of our team currently.
Also there will be more twins probably http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

But I don't promise Pe-2 or Tu-2. Pe-2 was started by third party 4 times. No one finished. It is far more complex inside than say He-111.
Ju-88 is in work by Jan already about one year. He did at first great research. So great that we are glad that he doing it... But modeling of this plane is really not easy that to make it looking really close to real inside. Say no one sim before had this plane cockpits modelled correct.

And.... There are not any scombat simulatro at the moment that has so much done inone sim. It will be AEP. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Then will be prbably much more.

Engine of FB can hangle twins easy.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

On yah Oleg, http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Maybe us FB Fan's should learn to model and then we maybe would have all these aircraft, if we modeled them well enough. Who know's maybe even a job with 1C Maddox.

necrobaron
02-12-2004, 06:24 PM
Were enough references found to make the B-25G/H flyable? Anyway, I'd certainly pay for a "twin-only" add-on.

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hotspace
02-12-2004, 07:20 PM
I would put my hand in my pocket to buy it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

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Bearcat99
02-12-2004, 09:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Oleg_Maddox:

Also to make any model alive in a sim isn't easy. We are not Gods!
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Maybe not but you guys make one GREAT product let me tell ya!!!!! Keep em coming!! Good to see you here again...... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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RAAF_Fox
02-13-2004, 02:52 AM
I would buy anything that comes out concerning FB,but,I'm very disapointed at the lack of flyable allied bombers at the moment and from what I have heard even in the addon we look to have missed out again.Please give us some 2 engine bombers and or just make the B17 flyable would be great for a start,as I have said you build em, hey I'll buy them!!!!!!!

VF-17_Jolly
02-13-2004, 05:21 PM
YES we realy need more bombers (because my dogfighting skills suck)

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DeerHunterUK
02-14-2004, 06:42 AM
I think the Mossie FB Mk VI would be a nice twin engine to model as the modeller would only need to make a cockpit (apart from the model itself) and wouldn't need to make any gun\bombardier positions.

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Tooz_69GIAP
02-16-2004, 06:13 AM
This is an issue I feel strongly about. I love flying multi engine/pit planes. Makes life in FB that much more interesting!!

Every single aspect of FB so far is way cool (cept for AI seeing you everywhere, and crashing into each other, but hey, that's life!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif). However, why are we receiving so many aircraft that had virtually nothing to do with the Eastern Front battles, and why are aircraft that played a major part in the GPW absent?

Why do we have the P-51? Why the Zero and Frank? Why even the B-17 (non were flown by VVS far as I know. Although they were flown into and out of the USSR on shuttle runs)?

Why is the B-25 absent (the most numerous and favoured bomber of the VVS in the GPW with almost 900 of various models being received)? Why is the Pe-2/3 absent? Why is the only flyable bomber the obsolete TB-3?

Considering that Russia was the first nation in the world to design and produce a purpose built bomber aircraft (the Il'ya Murometz Type V, built in 1914, a variant of Igor Sikorsky's design of the 1913 "Le Grand" four engined passenger aircraft; which was the largest aircraft in existence up to that point) that the only flyable example is a lumbering behemoth which was obsolete before the Winter War!!

Don't get me wrong, I love the TB-3, it is one of my favourite planes, but the game could have so much more potential for online wars like Forgotten Skies, and the forthcoming Scorched Earth that it is amazing that bombers are not being put onto a higher priority than the aircraft that are modelled.

Anyway, no malice or insult intended. I just love my bombers, and with few being available, I campaign to get them.

But I am mightily pleased that the B-25 is coming, but I wonder if a rough arrival date could be given??

One other thing that I have mentioned before here also is the possibility of adding a campaign for the Ju-52 transport. Flying the Ju-52 on supply runs into the Demyansk pocket, supplying Paulus's 6th army in Stalingrad, supplying the Korsun pocket, with all the inherent dangers that faced these amazingly brave pilots would make for an intense experience. Navigating to the drop zone/landing strip, avoiding detection, or escaping destruction at the hands of the vicious free-hunting VVS fighters, getting your cargo to your troops, and evacuating the wounded, and running the gauntlet again. That would have me hanging on by the fingernails if it could be done. Of course, fighter jocks would hate it, but those multi engine boys would enjoy it. I most definately would.

And an Li-2/Dakota campaign as well possibly?

Tooz

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BaneTheEvilOne
02-18-2004, 06:59 PM
We need Hs129, Ju88/188, greif and arado blitz,
i am not interested in the rest, and would pay for these.

A.K.Davis
02-18-2004, 07:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tooz_69GIAP:
Why is the B-25 absent (the most numerous and favoured bomber of the VVS in the GPW with almost 900 of various models being received)? Why is the Pe-2/3 absent? Why is the only flyable bomber the obsolete TB-3?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

A-20 was most numerous lend-lease bomber! Haven't I already said that once in this thread? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif B-25, A-20 and maybe Pe-2 are all being made for the game.

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Tooz_69GIAP
02-18-2004, 10:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by A.K.Davis:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tooz_69GIAP:
Why is the B-25 absent (the most numerous and favoured bomber of the VVS in the GPW with almost 900 of various models being received)? Why is the Pe-2/3 absent? Why is the only flyable bomber the obsolete TB-3?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

A-20 was most numerous lend-lease bomber! Haven't I already said that once in this thread? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif B-25, A-20 and maybe Pe-2 are all being made for the game.

--AKD

http://www.flyingpug.com/pugline2.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep, you said that before, and I posted this probably before I read that. Hence me repeating what I said in another post.

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JG52_wunsch
02-24-2004, 03:43 PM
hs129 and the ju88 ?gladly,cheers

JungleGeorge061
02-24-2004, 04:23 PM
4 or more, engines that is http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif