PDA

View Full Version : A book you might be Interested in Reading. Written by German Fighter Ace Heinz Knoke



Farkitt_
07-15-2004, 01:22 AM
Heinz Knoke was credited with 33 kills on the Western Front, with a further 5 that were unconfirmed.

He is one of the Few Aces that Scored all his Kills on the Western Front and lived to tell the tale.

His Book "I flew for the Fuhrer", which I finished just now, is a great account of the Air war from a German airmans perspective, and puts accross his own concerns and gripes with how the war should have been fought.

It is definatly worth Reading. It is Published by Cassel Military Paperbacks.

http://www.jacksonharrison.co.uk/BoB2/Battle_personnel/Profiles/RAF/images/lacey.jpg

"You do that again, I'll boot your bollocks till they ring like the church bells at St Mary's. Next time, Ding ****" -Fanny Barton in "A Good Clean Fight" written By Derek Robinson

Farkitt_
07-15-2004, 01:22 AM
Heinz Knoke was credited with 33 kills on the Western Front, with a further 5 that were unconfirmed.

He is one of the Few Aces that Scored all his Kills on the Western Front and lived to tell the tale.

His Book "I flew for the Fuhrer", which I finished just now, is a great account of the Air war from a German airmans perspective, and puts accross his own concerns and gripes with how the war should have been fought.

It is definatly worth Reading. It is Published by Cassel Military Paperbacks.

http://www.jacksonharrison.co.uk/BoB2/Battle_personnel/Profiles/RAF/images/lacey.jpg

"You do that again, I'll boot your bollocks till they ring like the church bells at St Mary's. Next time, Ding ****" -Fanny Barton in "A Good Clean Fight" written By Derek Robinson

ELEM
07-15-2004, 04:02 AM
Yep! read it. Quite good yes.

I wouldn't join any club that would have ME as member!

http://img35.photobucket.com/albums/v107/Elem_Klimov/I-16_desktop.jpg http://img35.photobucket.com/albums/v107/Elem_Klimov/dhm_787_small.jpg

JG52Uther
07-15-2004, 04:09 AM
Another good book is 'Graf & Grislawski A Pair Of Aces' by Christer Bergstrom http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v299/JG52Uther/FW.jpg Yeah Baby!!

tonywizzz
07-15-2004, 04:41 AM
Yep, great read.

http://img26.photobucket.com/albums/v79/Tony_Wizzz/il2/fis_euro_us_01.gif

Getting Shot Down On-Line as :FI:Grecian

http://img26.photobucket.com/albums/v79/Tony_Wizzz/il2/RAF%20307%20Squadron%20Wijaszko/

http://www.geocities.com/skrzydla/

jensenpark
07-15-2004, 04:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG52Uther:
Another good book is 'Graf & Grislawski A Pair Of Aces' by Christer Bergstrom http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v299/JG52Uther/FW.jpg Yeah Baby!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've heard that...where do you find it? Amazon or similiar?

http://www.corsair-web.com/thistler/rtfoxint.jpg
Buzz Beurling flying his last sortie over Malta, Oct.24, 1942

Dunkelgrun
07-15-2004, 05:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Farkitt_:
Heinz Knoke was credited with 33 kills on the Western Front, with a further 5 that were unconfirmed.

He is one of the Few Aces that Scored all his Kills on the Western Front and lived to tell the tale.

His Book "I flew for the Fuhrer", which I finished just now, is a great account of the Air war from a German airmans perspective, and puts accross his own concerns and gripes with how the war should have been fought.

It is definatly worth Reading. It is Published by Cassel Military Paperbacks.

http://www.jacksonharrison.co.uk/BoB2/Battle_personnel/Profiles/RAF/images/lacey.jpg

"You do that again, I'll boot your bollocks till they ring like the church bells at St Mary's. Next time, Ding ****" -Fanny Barton in "A Good Clean Fight" written By Derek Robinson<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just finished it - picked it up for 3 in the market. Interseting to compare it to Geoffrey Wellum's 'First Light'.
Cheers!

http://www.uploadit.org/igmusapa/tft2.jpg
www.nightbomber.com (http://www.nightbomber.com)

Dunkelgrun aka 242Sqn_Cat

JG52Uther
07-15-2004, 05:53 AM
Found Graf & Gsislawski at Duxford airshow last week.Its a new book.i can give you the ISBN number if you want......0-9721060-4-9.published by Eagle Editions Ltd.Be warned its not cheap.cost me 45

http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v299/JG52Uther/FW.jpg Yeah Baby!!

dadada1
07-15-2004, 08:02 AM
This is a great book with real insight into the day to day grind of the luftwaffe pilots lot, particularly the length of time he's in service. It's interesting how his attitude changes toward the aircraft/pilots that he shoots down in beginning, and how obviously fatigued he is by the end of the book. Also he survives some absolutely amazing incidents that, if you included in a film would be thought to be creation of an over-active imagination.

TgD Thunderbolt56
07-15-2004, 08:14 AM
You can get it here: http://www.eagle-editions.com/grafgris.htm



http://home.earthlink.net/~aclzkim1/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/texassports_01.gif

Targ
07-15-2004, 08:32 AM
Both books are a great read!

------------------------------------
WingWalkers dedicated server info

http://simjunkie.com

http://simjunkie.com/images/sig.jpg

Waldo.Pepper
07-15-2004, 09:39 AM
Spitfire on My Tail: A View from the Other Side
Ulrich Steinhilper

Another good book.

Farkitt_
07-15-2004, 10:14 AM
I never realised there was so many books in ENglish from the German point of view.

Despite thier political aleigences, these guys certainly are heroes.

http://www.jacksonharrison.co.uk/BoB2/Battle_personnel/Profiles/RAF/images/lacey.jpg

"You do that again, I'll boot your bollocks till they ring like the church bells at St Mary's. Next time, Ding ****" -Fanny Barton in "A Good Clean Fight" written By Derek Robinson

HuninMunin
07-15-2004, 10:58 AM
Well, most of the Luftwaffe were not really exited about the Nazi-Goverment.
Thats also true for the Kriegsmarine.
I remember reading an interview of Gunther Rall, who said that the very first thing their Kommodore
would tell the new guys was: "If you want to fight for the Fuhrer and the 1000 year Reich; join the Waffen-SS.
The majority was fighting its own war to stay alive.

Simon "Hunin" Phoenix

Oberst der Deutschen GoF Trolling Korps

Groundbait
07-15-2004, 03:54 PM
Just finished the Knoke book - great read! Favorite bit was when he was on fire near the ground and managed to shoot down the Thunderbolt as it overshot - then sat and talked to the american pilot while they were waiting to be picked up.

From your sig picture Farkitt I assume you read Lacey's book as well? His following account made me laugh http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

"As I brought my head round from one shoulder to look over the other I saw that I was doing what amounted to a head-on attack on 12 yellow nosed 109's.....I destroyed one and damaged another before being set upon by their 10 companions who were thoroughly annoyed about the whole business." - James 'Ginger' Lacey 15th Sep 1940

"To be ignorant of what occurred before you were born is to remain always a child" - Cicero

NorrisMcWhirter
07-15-2004, 04:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
Spitfire on My Tail: A View from the Other Side
Ulrich Steinhilper

Another good book.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hi,

Yes - this book is very good. I've not read the book that this thread is about but I can recommend Steinhilper's.

Again, another LW pilot who was *far* from being a Nazi and who battled against the 'old boys network' created by Legion Condor just to get radios fitted to planes.

One of the most chilling parts of his book was not the descriptions of aerial combat (there wasn't a lot of that, anyway, in this book) but him describing listening in to the RAF pilots as they engaged LW aircraft. I don't remember the exact words but it went something like..

'We'd tune into the RAF just in time to listen to their flight leaders giving hurried instructions before shouts of 'tally ho' as they attacked...Then there would be random calls for help or instructions to 'break left', 'on your 6' and such like...Eventually, the radio chatter would decrease to a few calls to pilots to acknowledge if they were still alive....usually in vain'

Steinhilper survived the war and went on to be credited with inventing the word processor when he subsequently worked for IBM. Just as well that he survived his crash landing otherwise I might not be typing this right now!

I'll try to find Knoke's book - thanks for the info.

Cheers,
Norris

================================================== ==========

: Chris Morris - Blue Jam :
http://cabinessence.cream.org/

: More irreverence :
http://www.tvgohome.com/

: You've seen them... :
www.chavscum.co.uk (http://www.chavscum.co.uk)

Waldo.Pepper
07-15-2004, 09:37 PM
Knocke book is good, also good is

The First to the Last - Galland
Skuka Pilot - Rudel... The most unrepentant Nazi memoir (who survived the war that is) I have read.

Aimosika
07-16-2004, 12:01 AM
Yes, read it few weeks ago. Most interesting part was about Bf 109 G1 problems. I had no idea...

But the english name "I flew for The Fuhrer" or what was it is quite odd. The real name "The Great Hunting" is much better!

Also read book from Peter Wilhelm Stahl, Ju88 pilot. I dont know the english name but it is probably "Bomberpilot" or something.

Oh, just checked its name in english is "The Diving Eagle", really good book this too!

[This message was edited by Aimosika on Fri July 16 2004 at 01:00 AM.]

The.Tyke
07-16-2004, 02:23 AM
Just in the middle of "Spifire on my tail" at the moment and enjoying it very much.
BTW, on a slightly different subject, I'm quite interested in the trench warfare of WW1. Besides "All quiet on the Western Front", does any body know of good personal accounts of trench warfare from the German side ??

Arms1
07-16-2004, 02:56 AM
havn't read much from the axis point of view but "aeroplane magazine" just had an article about a german 190 fighter bomber squadron operations after d-day, it really emphasised the futility of trying to conduct operations underneath the umbrella of overwhelming allied air superiority.

http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v258/idcflashman/flashsig2.jpg

Jippo01
07-16-2004, 03:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Aimosika:
Oh, just checked its name in english is "The Diving Eagle", really good book this too!
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Stahl in French and British campaigns, excellent read. (It is not the same as the Finnish version though. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ) Excellent quality bomber pilot memoirs!

Also a very good books are war diary of Helmut Lipfert (of JG 52), which is IMHO better than Knoke's book, although I find both excellent. Another one I could recommend is in it's original name "Das Auge Dietls - Fernaufklarung am Polarkreis" by Konrad Knabe; an excellent book probably translated to other languages too. It is about reconnaisance flying over the arctic parts of Finland and Russia.


-jippo

LeLv28 - Fighting for independency since 2002
http://www.lelv28.com

Falkster's Ju-88 fan site:
www.ju88.de.tf (http://www.ju88.de.tf)