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catkiller97
09-30-2013, 02:37 PM
Ubisoft 'could' alternate between Watch Dogs and Assassin's Creed year on year (http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/watch_dogs/news/ubisoft_could_alternate_between_watch_dogs_and_*** assins_creed_year_on_year.html)

Frankly speaking this will give AC some break so i like the idea.

roostersrule2
09-30-2013, 02:38 PM
Oh god yes.

pirate1802
09-30-2013, 02:39 PM
Oh god yes.

Hans684
09-30-2013, 02:49 PM
Oh hell yes.

SixKeys
09-30-2013, 02:55 PM
While I'm not exactly excited about Watch Dogs potentially becoming just as overexposed as AC, this would certainly be better for the AC franchise.

ArabianFrost
09-30-2013, 03:05 PM
Just notice that this was a suggestion by the interviewer, not something the interviewee brought up, so it's just an insignificant question. I doubt a small question brought up by an interviewer would alter an entire's company production plan.

I-Like-Pie45
09-30-2013, 03:10 PM
buzzkill

Shahkulu101
09-30-2013, 03:19 PM
This would be a good idea but I doubt it will happen. It wasn't a statement but an answer to an insignificant question on Moirin's part.

EllJim
09-30-2013, 03:30 PM
If they have many different teams working on these and are spending a proper amount of time developing these, not rushing, does it matter we get it year on year? So long as the story remains good I've no issue seeing one every year.

roostersrule2
09-30-2013, 03:33 PM
If they have many different teams working on these and are spending a proper amount of time developing these, not rushing, does it matter we get it year on year? So long as the story remains good I've no issue seeing one every year.Story is not enough and AC3's story was inconsistent and broken. If Ubi wants to keep it successful they'll do this.

Jexx21
09-30-2013, 03:38 PM
What about upping the ante and go: Assassin's Creed, Watch_Dogs, Tom Clancy, AC, WD, TC, repeat

Except I guess since Tom Clancy games aren't open world they wouldn't exactly fit in. Except The Division is going to be open-world, but it's psuedo-MMO, like Destiny. (Pseudo-MMO being the name I have for what I think is going to be a new genre of gaming and a push forward in gaming in general).

pirate1802
09-30-2013, 03:38 PM
If they have many different teams working on these and are spending a proper amount of time developing these, not rushing, does it matter we get it year on year? So long as the story remains good I've no issue seeing one every year.

It does kinda, atleast for me. And it doesnt even have to do with how good or bad the games are. Once you get a game every year the excitement goes away. And you start to get franchise fatigue.

Shahkulu101
09-30-2013, 03:38 PM
Story is not enough and AC3's story was inconsistent and broken. If Ubi wants to keep it successful they'll do this.

AC3 was the most successful commercially. If they wan't to make great games they'll do this.

EllJim
09-30-2013, 03:43 PM
Story is not enough and AC3's story was inconsistent and broken. If Ubi wants to keep it successful they'll do this.
So that's the issue not that Ac3 was out a year after but that it was broken and buggy with some story failures, if they avoid these (like we hope they ahve done with BF surely it's no issue?
q

Jexx21
09-30-2013, 03:45 PM
AC3 had an amazing story, it just had horrible presentation, which yes, could have been fixed with more time.

adventurewomen
09-30-2013, 03:48 PM
That would be interesting! :D

pacmanate
09-30-2013, 04:41 PM
AC3 was the most successful commercially. If they wan't to make great games they'll do this.

That was just marketing. Trust me.

AherasSTRG
09-30-2013, 05:20 PM
I would prefer my yearly fix of AC.

Sushiglutton
09-30-2013, 05:33 PM
I think a years break for AC could do the series good. Personally WD is no replacement though. Game looks fine, but it doesn't have that AC magic imo. AC is all about those beautiful historical enviroments that are fully climbable. I don't see anything that special in WD. Don't get me wrong it looks like a very competent game, and hacking the city is a fun toy for sure. I don't think it will become as big as AC though. But what do I know?

ze_topazio
09-30-2013, 06:23 PM
Or they could release the two every year for maximum profit.

lothario-da-be
09-30-2013, 06:33 PM
This would be the best imo:
214: Far cry 4
215: Assassin's creed 5
216: Watch dogs 2
217:Far cry 5
218: Assassin's creed 6
219: Watch dogs 3
... Every game would have a 3 year gap between releases wich is perfect for open world games imo.

zeo6016
09-30-2013, 06:38 PM
why are u so sure there will be watch dogs 2 and 3 ???

lothario-da-be
09-30-2013, 06:40 PM
why are u so sure there will be watch dogs 2 and 3 ???
Because i am close with Yves.

RatonhnhakeFan
09-30-2013, 06:46 PM
I would rather have them allow delays if they're necessary. Yves is all proud of himself "I've got this all figured out people!" but as long as he enforces those non-negotiabble "Holiday $$$" deadlines, it's gonna be a constant rush regardless if the various teams had 2 or more years to work on something.

x___Luffy___x
09-30-2013, 06:50 PM
i don't have a problem with the yearly releases... i love AC

ze_topazio
09-30-2013, 06:54 PM
^ We all love AC, that's why we want it to have the best quality possible.

STDlyMcStudpants
09-30-2013, 07:22 PM
No and this is why....
Assassin's Creed is my favorite game, but sadly it has to come to end some day.. (There are what? 50 pieces of Eden?)
As much as I think I might want to see Assassins Creed L ...I really don't lol I'd be in my early 70s finally finding out what happens.
I really don't want AC to go past Assassin's Creed X and I hope that it even makes it that far.
But I think Watch_Dogs was made to replace Assassin's Creed. We will See Watch_Dogs Detroit or something in 2015...I see it being an every other year thing until AC finishes it's story..then it will turn into their new yearly franchise.
Which honestly I don't want to see happen...Sandbox shooters are easy to get burnt out on.... =/ Look at Saints Row..Who was actually excited for SR4 even though SR3 was awesome? No one lol and it came out 2 years later...
I hope Watch_Dogs follows a 3 year schedule and AC is replaced with another history game..but then again why not just keep AC?! Where am I gonna get my history fix? :'( The history channel?
They only show pawnstars </3

STDlyMcStudpants
09-30-2013, 07:26 PM
why are u so sure there will be watch dogs 2 and 3 ???
Because Ubisoft said that the only make franchises now lol (excluding movie and show games)

Jexx21
09-30-2013, 08:15 PM
Watch_Dogs has that charm of being a city that we know from real life that we can explore and hack into. Why do you think GTA is so popular? Watch_Dogs is GTA with hacking.

pirate1802
09-30-2013, 08:17 PM
Watch_Dogs is Person of Interest: The Game.

pacmanate
09-30-2013, 08:18 PM
Watch_Dogs has that charm of being a city that we know from real life that we can explore and hack into. Why do you think GTA is so popular? Watch_Dogs is GTA with hacking.

Well we dont know that. The scale of GTA in terms of content and map size might very well overshadow Watch_Dogs.

pacmanate
09-30-2013, 08:18 PM
Watch_Dogs is Person of Interest: The Game.

Actually it's - Watch_Dogs: Press Square.

Jexx21
09-30-2013, 08:26 PM
Well we dont know that. The scale of GTA in terms of content and map size might very well overshadow Watch_Dogs.

what?

I meant the basic gameplay mechanics.

don't assume things.

pacmanate
09-30-2013, 08:29 PM
what?

I meant the basic gameplay mechanics.

don't assume things.

"don't assume things" is the most annoying thing to tell someone who just gave their opinion.

Jexx21
09-30-2013, 08:31 PM
yea well i'm a bit angry

sorry and what you said isn't an opinion, it's a theory. It's completely possible that GTA V's world is bigger and has more content than Watch_Dogs, and I think it's probably true. Doesn't mean anything to what I originally said that Watch_Dogs is essentially GTA with hacking.

pirate1802
09-30-2013, 08:31 PM
what?

I meant the basic gameplay mechanics.

don't assume things.

Calm your tits grandson.

pacmanate
09-30-2013, 08:34 PM
yea well i'm a bit angry

sorry and what you said isn't an opinion, it's a theory. It's completely possible that GTA V's world is bigger and has more content than Watch_Dogs, and I think it's probably true. Doesn't mean anything to what I originally said that Watch_Dogs is essentially GTA with hacking.

But the theory is still my opinion as its not fact. If you are angry take a break from the forums or you will piss off a lot of people.

Jexx21
09-30-2013, 08:47 PM
But the theory is still my opinion as its not fact. If you are angry take a break from the forums or you will piss off a lot of people.

nah i'm always gonna be pissed on these forums. I' come on these forums to piss so that I can be nicer on other forums.

lothario-da-be
09-30-2013, 08:48 PM
nah i'm always gonna be pissed on these forums. I' come on these forums to piss so that I can be nicer on other forums.
Thats nice of you.

Jexx21
09-30-2013, 08:50 PM
yes i think you deserve it

ze_topazio
09-30-2013, 09:28 PM
Watch Dogs is basically Sonic the Hedgehog with a open world city, hacking, shooting, cars, etc..., the only thing lacking is animal robots, rings and annoying friends.

STDlyMcStudpants
09-30-2013, 10:22 PM
I think watch dogs looks awesome but i just dont wanna see more than one of them..for a while at least

Assassin_M
09-30-2013, 10:26 PM
GTA V's world is bigger and has more content than Watch_Dogs
A watch dogs dev basically confirmed that Chicago is smaller than Los Santos and Blaine county, but more dense:p

Shahkulu101
09-30-2013, 10:30 PM
density>size.

Like La Habana. :D

pacmanate
09-30-2013, 10:31 PM
A watch dogs dev basically confirmed that Chicago is smaller than Los Santos and Blaine county, but more dense:p

he said it was the size of Liberty City

Assassin_M
09-30-2013, 10:32 PM
he said it was the size of Liberty City
that's not so bad


density>size.

Like La Habana. :D
What if the game has both? xP

Shahkulu101
09-30-2013, 10:35 PM
that's not so bad


What if the game has both? xP

Then we have a winner! Does GTA have both - please tell me it does?

ACfan443
09-30-2013, 10:36 PM
Since I'm selfish, I care little about some new IP which I barely know anything about. If its quality and longevity are jeopardised for the sake of maintaining relevance and integrity of one of my favourite franchises, then so be it. This is a brilliant idea.

Assassin_M
09-30-2013, 10:40 PM
Then we have a winner! Does GTA have both - please tell me it does?
In terms of Pedestrian density, it's only in certain places...like pleasure bay and Simmet Alley...those are full of people mid-day

Great vehicle density is MOSTLY everywhere that makes sense.

So, yeah...you'll never feel like it's an empty world xD

Shahkulu101
09-30-2013, 10:54 PM
In terms of Pedestrian density, it's only in certain places...like pleasure bay and Simmet Alley...those are full of people mid-day

Great vehicle density is MOSTLY everywhere that makes sense.

So, yeah...you'll never feel like it's an empty world xD

Well that is nothing if not magnificent.

Assassin_M
09-30-2013, 10:56 PM
Well that is nothing if not magnificent.
That's not mentioning underwater density...and it's all "seamless" :rolleyes:

pacmanate
09-30-2013, 10:58 PM
That's not mentioning underwater density...and it's all "seamless" :rolleyes:

hehe

Shahkulu101
09-30-2013, 11:01 PM
That's not mentioning underwater density...and it's all "seamless" :rolleyes:

You mean you can just leave your jet ski and go to another island without a loading screen - how innovative. ;)

Assassin_M
09-30-2013, 11:03 PM
You mean you can just leave your jet ski and go to another island without a loading screen - how innovative. ;)
To be fair, there WAS loading before and it wasn't open world...so I guess now that it's integrated into the world and has no loading, it can be called innovative xP

Jet Skis take a lot of space

pacmanate
09-30-2013, 11:03 PM
You mean you can just leave your jet ski and go to another island without a loading screen - how innovative. ;)

And UNDERWATER at any time!!!

Shahkulu101
09-30-2013, 11:05 PM
And UNDERWATER at any time!!!

Yes but it will pale in comparison to Far Cry 3's seamless underwater in terms of visuals. Same with AC4 's segments.

Assassin_M
09-30-2013, 11:06 PM
Yes but it will pale in comparison to Far Cry 3's seamless underwater in terms of visuals. Same with AC4 's segments
You'll see for yourself ;)

Shahkulu101
09-30-2013, 11:08 PM
You'll see for yourself ;)

Well I already know the graphics are nowhere near as good as Far Cry 3's so no. I wont. ;)

These winky faces get creepy. ;)



;)

Assassin_M
09-30-2013, 11:10 PM
Well I already know the graphics are nowhere near as good as Far Cry 3's so no. I wont. ;)

These winky faces get creepy. ;)



;)
:cool:

pacmanate
09-30-2013, 11:10 PM
Well I already know the graphics are nowhere near as good as Far Cry 3's so no. I wont. ;)

These winky faces get creepy. ;)



;)

In some ways, GTA's underwater is better.

Shahkulu101
09-30-2013, 11:11 PM
In some ways, GTA's underwater is better.

Simply because of the fact you can punch a shark square in the face? :cool:

pacmanate
09-30-2013, 11:21 PM
Simply because of the fact you can punch a shark square in the face? :cool:

You can?!

Assassin_M
09-30-2013, 11:22 PM
You can?!
and stab them too xD

AdamPearce
10-01-2013, 12:44 AM
and stab them too xD

'stab' them? With what? a rock? I don't remember any 'weapon' when going underwater. O_o Maybe it's like, holsters, only appears on cinematics.

roostersrule2
10-01-2013, 12:53 AM
Well I already know the graphics are nowhere near as good as Far Cry 3's so no. I wont. ;)

These winky faces get creepy. ;)



;)GTA V's graphics are comparable with FC3 on PC, FC3's are better but GTA's are still good.

Shahkulu101
10-01-2013, 12:56 AM
GTA V's graphics are comparable with FC3 on PC, FC3's are better but GTA's are still good.

Nice. Does GTA have a bigger map than FC3?

AdamPearce
10-01-2013, 12:58 AM
Nice. Does GTA have a bigger map than FC3?

Hell yeah.

Shahkulu101
10-01-2013, 01:00 AM
Hell yeah.

Really? I was overwhelmed by FC3's map. Much too big for me - now I'm worried.

pacmanate
10-01-2013, 01:02 AM
Really? I was overwhelmed by FC3's map. Much too big for me - now I'm worried.

There is always something to do, thats the beauty of 5 years of work.

Jexx21
10-01-2013, 01:27 AM
GTA V's graphics are comparable with FC3 on PC, FC3's are better but GTA's are still good.
rofl

Shahkulu101
10-01-2013, 01:31 AM
FC3's graphics are so good that I sometimes think I'm feeling the warm tropical ocean soaking over me.

Perk89
10-01-2013, 01:58 AM
Story is not enough and AC3's story was inconsistent and broken. If Ubi wants to keep it successful they'll do this.

Except anybody who is informed on the situation and posts accordingly knows that AC3 was developed over a course of 3 years. So doesn't really bode well for your "theory." As long as the games continue to be as good as they have been, I'm fine with a yearly release, especially with multiple teams working it.

ACfan443
10-01-2013, 02:11 AM
GTA V's graphics are comparable with FC3 on PC

GTA 5 is an amazing game no doubt, but this is an ridiculous comparison imo. GTA 5 looks worse than the console version of FC3, let alone standing up to the PC version. The underwater environments look the worst, close to something out of PS2 era. Blaine country is also rather unsightly, especially the mountainous and rocky regions.

While GTA has fairly nice textures in some areas and some pretty ugly ones in others, I felt Far Cry 3 looked consistently good throughout the whole map, which is why I feel it has the upper hand in the eye candy department.

However, visuals were never the big selling point for GTA - that's always been gameplay, which is absolutely fantastic in GTA 5, so muddy textures and ugly corals don't detract from my experience much.

pacmanate
10-01-2013, 03:29 AM
I actually prefer GTA's lack of textures over FC3 on consoles due to Far Crys AA.

Shahkulu101
10-01-2013, 03:33 AM
But it is GODLY on PC ye peasant (only game I've ever played on PC - I think my self part of the master race anyhow)

pacmanate
10-01-2013, 03:37 AM
Please dont say Master Race, one of the most annoying things ever.

Shahkulu101
10-01-2013, 03:47 AM
Please dont say Master Race, one of the most annoying things ever.

I know right. It actually promotes fascism in a way - I was clearly kidding though.

Gi1t
10-01-2013, 04:25 AM
Should have been doing that the whole time with AC and Prince of Persia. -__-

I-Like-Pie45
10-01-2013, 06:32 AM
Should have been doing that the whole time with AC and Prince of Persia. -__-

How many unprofitable franchises do giant robot corporate heads in jars milk on a biannual basis?
http://media.exophase.net/images/2009/04/ubisoft.jpg
NOT FREAKING MANY

pirate1802
10-01-2013, 06:33 AM
Should have been doing that the whole time with AC and Prince of Persia. -__-

I still have blind hope that one day we'll see the 2008 PoP's sequel ;_;

I-Like-Pie45
10-01-2013, 06:41 AM
If we ever do get another PoP game

It'll probably be another Sands trilogy spin-off (because Yves knows the Sands fans will rake in more cash than the 2008 fans) or a complete reboot

Gi1t
10-01-2013, 05:45 PM
How many unprofitable franchises do giant robot corporate heads in jars milk on a biannual basis?

NOT FREAKING MANY

You've hit on their problem right there. They've labeled it as "unprofitable" and don't understand what that means. They made one, but it was a low-budget movie tie-in title, then they made a Sands Re-release that was so lame I don't even know if I'm going to bother getting it when I get a PS3 next year, and then their next big reveal was....a mobile game, another remake and it wasn't even available on VC systems. They've not only been putting less and less effort into it, but they've also been putting a disproportionately small amoount of effort into each title compared to other games. And they sit there wondering why they aren't raking in the cash.

The most telling thing of all is this assumption that "biannual" releases are somehow par for the course. They won't ever succeed with it again until someone comes in and digs them out of their delusions. 'Till then I guess they're just going to become less and less relevant to the future of gaming and more than likely other franchises will end up in the same position.


I still have blind hope that one day we'll see the 2008 PoP's sequel ;_;

A lot of people do. :)

lothario-da-be
10-01-2013, 06:02 PM
If we ever do get another PoP game

It'll probably be another Sands trilogy spin-off (because Yves knows the Sands fans will rake in more cash than the 2008 fans) or a complete reboot
Another fantastic game in the trilogy universe is my dream. A game that takes place afther the 2 thrones.

pacmanate
10-01-2013, 06:07 PM
We need the old Princes voice back for another Sands of Time game, but honestly, we had The Forgotten Sands and it was so uninspiring. The PS2 games controlled better, had better combos and story.

I am glad they are putting it on hold. I dont think the next PoP will be the Cell Shaded one, otherwise we would have gotten that already.

I am hoping they are gathering ideas to make something as great as the Sands of Time trilogy.

lothario-da-be
10-01-2013, 06:10 PM
We need the old Princes voice back for another Sands of Time game, but honestly, we had The Forgotten Sands and it was so uninspiring. The PS2 games controlled better, had better combos and story.

I am glad they are putting it on hold. I dont think the next PoP will be the Cell Shaded one, otherwise we would have gotten that already.

I am hoping they are gathering ideas to make something as great as the Sands of Time trilogy.
Hopefully even better. The games were realy good when they released. But with the better technology now they could make it so much better.

pacmanate
10-01-2013, 06:13 PM
Hopefully even better. The games were realy good when they released. But with the better technology now they could make it so much better.

The Sands of Time Trilogy will always be one of my favourites, from voice acting to story to combat and puzzles. They were just so amazing. I bought the HD collection a while back and I was just amazed at them.

lothario-da-be
10-01-2013, 06:20 PM
The Sands of Time Trilogy will always be one of my favourites, from voice acting to story to combat and puzzles. They were just so amazing. I bought the HD collection a while back and I was just amazed at them.
Me too. Those games stay amazing even afther 10 years and more then 10 playthroughs.

Gi1t
10-01-2013, 06:23 PM
Hopefully even better. The games were realy good when they released. But with the better technology now they could make it so much better.

Yeah, even the 2008 game just didn't have nearly as much as it could have, given what they had to work with. They need to take other games into consideration and ask themselves if what they're making is really as good as other action games out there or if it's just kind of following behind like Forgotten Sands.

pacmanate
10-01-2013, 06:29 PM
Yeah, even the 2008 game just didn't have nearly as much as it could have, given what they had to work with. They need to take other games into consideration and ask themselves if what they're making is really as good as other action games out there or if it's just kind of following behind like Forgotten Sands.

Yup. Every PoP game after SoT trilogy has had a meh story, crappy combat, easy puzzles and boring environments.

Gi1t
10-01-2013, 06:34 PM
Yup. Every PoP game after SoT trilogy has had a meh story, crappy combat, easy puzzles and boring environments.

Well, no. But they certainly only did a fraction of what they could have. Especially with puzzles and combat.

The 2008 story was actually my favorite thus far. :)

pacmanate
10-01-2013, 06:36 PM
Well, no. But they certainly only did a fraction of what they could have. Especially with puzzles and combat.

The 2008 story was actually my favorite thus far. :)

It didnt beat the SoT storyline for me, it was okay, but not as gripping or dramatic as the 1st SoT game.

Gi1t
10-01-2013, 06:46 PM
It didnt beat the SoT storyline for me, it was okay, but not as gripping or dramatic as the 1st SoT game.

I get the feeling it's because the plot was REALLY minimal. Sands of Time had a much more elaborate plot (how can you not with time travel in your story? :D) The 2008 game was all about the characters and you actually kind of forgot about he plot half the time (which had its benefits) but that mean you either loved it or hated it based on how ou reacted to the characters. XD

lothario-da-be
10-01-2013, 06:57 PM
It didnt beat the SoT storyline for me, it was okay, but not as gripping or dramatic as the 1st SoT game.
I also didn't like the story because the prince suddenly had a brother.

Mr_Shade
10-01-2013, 06:58 PM
:rolleyes:

pacmanate
10-01-2013, 07:58 PM
I get the feeling it's because the plot was REALLY minimal. Sands of Time had a much more elaborate plot (how can you not with time travel in your story? :D) The 2008 game was all about the characters and you actually kind of forgot about he plot half the time (which had its benefits) but that mean you either loved it or hated it based on how ou reacted to the characters. XD

I didn't relate that much to the characters I have to say, but thats just me. I also found the mission layouts really repetitive too. Clear out surrounding areas from "infection" or goo or whatever, then boss battle. I did like the power stringing though, that was awesome.


I also didn't like the story because the prince suddenly had a brother.

He did?

Spider_Sith9
10-01-2013, 09:29 PM
About time. And yes, I want to see PoP 2008-2 as well :)

Spider_Sith9
10-02-2013, 02:19 PM
Actually it's - Watch_Dogs: Press Square.

This is why we can't have nice things...

pacmanate
10-02-2013, 02:20 PM
This is why we can't have nice things...

You don't need nice things. Only square.

Farlander1991
10-02-2013, 02:27 PM
He did?

In the 2010 Forgotten Sands game which was part of the Sands of Time Universe. PoP universes got mixed up a little bit in the conversation, I suppose :)

pacmanate
10-02-2013, 02:32 PM
In the 2010 Forgotten Sands game which was part of the Sands of Time Universe. PoP universes got mixed up a little bit in the conversation, I suppose :)

Oh! Yeah I thought you meant the cell shaded one and was like :confused:

Farlander1991
10-02-2013, 02:35 PM
Oh! Yeah I thought you meant the cell shaded one and was like :confused:

I didn't mean anything, I wasn't part of this conversation at all until that one post :p

pirate1802
10-02-2013, 02:52 PM
You don't need nice things. Only square.

I need circular things too.. :(

pacmanate
10-02-2013, 02:58 PM
I need circular things too.. :(

But squares are the new circles.

Hans684
10-02-2013, 05:58 PM
They should becouse wheen the fan bases of both franchise's has become big enough they will effect each other.