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epsilon97
08-06-2004, 11:06 AM
Hello everyone,

I just purchased IL-2 Forgotten Battles and the Aces Expansion. I think that I am really going to love this game, but I am finding it very difficult to learn how to play. I have been having several consistent problems so I thought that I would come to you guys for some help. In addition to the questions I ask below, please feel free to give me other advice you have for a beginner and/or point me to any good websites to help me learn this game.

1. The first major issue I am having is understanding what each of the keys are for on the keyboard cheetsheet provided with the game. Is there anything that describes all of the commands available in Il-2?

2. When I start my first campaign mission and begin to takeoff, my plane always turns to the left even when I am not touching my joystick. Is this a problem with my joystick or with me?

3. Is there an online server for beginning pilots to play against each other?

4. Is this possible for a beginner to join a squadron of online players? I thought that this might be a good way for me to learn the game (betting coached).

5. Are there any good websites or articles explaining how to find targets and stay with them while flying your own plane? I never seem to see enemy aircraft when I fly.

Thank you for your advice.

epsilon97
08-06-2004, 11:06 AM
Hello everyone,

I just purchased IL-2 Forgotten Battles and the Aces Expansion. I think that I am really going to love this game, but I am finding it very difficult to learn how to play. I have been having several consistent problems so I thought that I would come to you guys for some help. In addition to the questions I ask below, please feel free to give me other advice you have for a beginner and/or point me to any good websites to help me learn this game.

1. The first major issue I am having is understanding what each of the keys are for on the keyboard cheetsheet provided with the game. Is there anything that describes all of the commands available in Il-2?

2. When I start my first campaign mission and begin to takeoff, my plane always turns to the left even when I am not touching my joystick. Is this a problem with my joystick or with me?

3. Is there an online server for beginning pilots to play against each other?

4. Is this possible for a beginner to join a squadron of online players? I thought that this might be a good way for me to learn the game (betting coached).

5. Are there any good websites or articles explaining how to find targets and stay with them while flying your own plane? I never seem to see enemy aircraft when I fly.

Thank you for your advice.

Udidtoo
08-06-2004, 11:11 AM
I'll start with No.2

Engine torque is modelled in FB/AEP depending upon the direction of the propellers turning, apply opposite rudder to correct.

It can be frustrating to learn at 1st with all or most of your realism settings on but it very rewarding when you finally start to become proficient.

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horseback
08-06-2004, 11:28 AM
Have you read the manual? Much of what you ask about is covered there in a basic way; there are a few threads 'stickied' at the top of the forum which contain links to very good resources for detailed explanations of Complex Engine Management (CEM) and other esoterica. Scanning this forum will give you most of the answers to the rest of your questions.

If your copy of FB didn't come with a hard copy of the manual, it is included on one of the disks (I think it's disk 1, but I've only had the one pot of coffee this morning, so bear with me in my reduced state) in .pdf format.

cheers

horseback

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Hoarmurath
08-06-2004, 11:35 AM
1 - the manual?

2 - bad weather usually produce that.

3 - not really. Just enter a server, let be clear that you are new. If you don't receive any help, change server. There are some people helpful around.

4 - sure, many squadrons are ready to accept new players. Check their websites.

5 - if you are playing offline and can't find ennemy planes, just stick with other planes in your flight. They will find the ennemy. If you have problems finding ennemy planes online, just do the same. Pick a friendly aircraft and fly alongside him. Even if he don't find the ennemy, it is probable that the ennemy will eventually find you. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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johann63
08-06-2004, 11:35 AM
as for online servers, if no one has mentioned yet. Download and play online via. hyperlobby. You will see many df servers to joint with different settings. Some often announce beginner or practice servers. Also once in the server just let folks know you are starting out and more often than not someone will give you some pointers.

Have fun with it!!

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TgD Thunderbolt56
08-06-2004, 12:49 PM
Good advice all. The bottom line is, it will take game time and practice to understand best how to manipulate your aircraft effectively.

Successful missions online (Dogfight or COOP) are the most rewarding for me, but much of the initial learning such as Complex Engine Management(CEM) and proper use of flaps, navigation and landing procedures can be done in the Quick Mission Builder(QMB) offline.

Practice, practice, practice...then practice some more.

TB



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CutterJohn
08-06-2004, 01:01 PM
I can highly recommend joining the Vultures Row Squadron.

Excellent, friendly group of people and we do have a training program for new cadets in both fighters and bombers. I think you would really enjoy it.

www.vultures-row.com (http://www.vultures-row.com)

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Doug_Thompson
08-06-2004, 02:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by epsilon97:
1. The first major issue I am having is understanding what each of the keys are for on the keyboard cheetsheet provided with the game. Is there anything that describes all of the commands available in Il-2?


... 5. Are there any good websites or articles explaining how to find targets and stay with them while flying your own plane? I never seem to see enemy aircraft when I fly.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Il-2 is, without a doubt, the most difficult game I've ever enjoyed.

1. The keyboard. Assigning your own keys is a LOT easier than trying to memorize them all.

Every home computer set-up is different, and there are significant differences between planes, too. For instance, my joystick has seven buttons, a throttle lever and a hat switch. My setup is going to be a lot different from somebody who has 11 buttons -- or five.

Can't make a suggestion on on-line play, and somebody's already answered about torque.

Here's a great website (http://www.il2flying.com/)

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Doug_Thompson
08-06-2004, 02:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Doug_Thompson:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by epsilon97:
1. The first major issue I am having is understanding what each of the keys are for on the keyboard cheetsheet provided with the game. Is there anything that describes all of the commands available in Il-2?


... 5. Are there any good websites or articles explaining how to find targets and stay with them while flying your own plane? I never seem to see enemy aircraft when I fly.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Il-2 is, without a doubt, the most difficult game I've ever enjoyed.

1. The keyboard. Assigning your own keys is a LOT easier than trying to memorize them all.

Every home computer set-up is different, and there are significant differences between planes, too. For instance, my joystick has seven buttons, a throttle lever and a hat switch. My setup is going to be a lot different from somebody who has 11 buttons -- or five.

The La-5 has war emergency power, or WEP. I have a button on my joystick for that. The LaGG-3, however, does not. More accrately, WEP is built in to the throttle lever. I'm not going to let an extra key on my joystick go to waste, however, and will re-assign it. If I have rockets on that mission, for instance, it becomes the weapon 3 button.

Can't make a suggestion on on-line play, and somebody's already answered about torque.

http://www.il2flying.com/

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_Proud Charter Member of the Do-Do Birds Luftwhiners Chorus_<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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