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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 02:53 PM
What the heck do you use that for? I am confused and dont' understand why it's there.

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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 02:53 PM
What the heck do you use that for? I am confused and dont' understand why it's there.

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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 03:20 PM
It's a sort of shift key. the x45 has 6 shiftable states.

3 states(of mode botton) * 2 states(of pinkie sw) = 6 states in total

Total number of programmable buttons = Number of buttons * 6 states

thus, x45 has about 180 buttons.


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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 04:19 PM
So I hold the pinkie sw and hold the fire button and it will do something if I program it to do so? I really find this software complex. I also don't think the manuel explains it that well either.

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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 04:19 PM
You can set it as a simple button, or as a "shift" as described above.

This choice has to be made and set in the SST software. Then you can show all the different modes, one setup screen per mode.


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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 04:20 PM
My X45 main trigger died after a few months so I use my 'pinkie' for both MG and Cannons /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

So for a pinkie, it pack a complete punch /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 04:30 PM
I will keep playing with it and eventually get the hang of it. I just wish there ware a better manual out there that can really explain how to program it properly.

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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 04:34 PM
Actually you know what? If someone claimed they had the best setup for the X45 I would be more then happy to test it out. Also if I could have an explenation of the setup that would be even more helpful. Maybe that would help me figure stuff out. Im also new to flight sims so I really don't know what is what and what it does or doesn't do. Help!!!!! I'm still trainging in FB and trying single missions. Not mearly good enought to start campaings

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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 04:35 PM
StrypheR1 wrote:
- So I hold the pinkie sw and hold the fire button and
- it will do something if I program it to do so? I
- really find this software complex. I also don't
- think the manuel explains it that well either.


RIght. If you executed the profile editor, you can see the shiftstate under toolbars. It says "Mode 1, Mode 2....Mode 1+pinkie, Mode2+pinkie..." For example, you can assign bomb-release to the fire button with mode 1, and firing rocket to the same button with mode1+pinkie state.

Generally, this features are needed in jet flight sim in which many buttons are used.

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Message Edited on 07/11/0303:37PM by Flying_Marduk

XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 04:35 PM
There was a utility written called Hazardscript that allowed you to write a little file with commands and the button actions you wanted to assign them to.

I have lost all my links, but if you do a search on google for Hazardscript, or failing that, Ron Hunts unofficial Saitek help center (dead helpful bloke, good forums on that site too). I found this way of programming much easier than the SST software (which I gave up on about a year ago).

If you like the look of that, and want an example hazardscript, send me a PM or mail ham_tyler_uk@yahoo.co.uk and I'll send you one. The only thing I need to touch my keyboard for is to press escape to refly; everything else is done from my X36 /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 04:40 PM
Awesome thanks a lot HamTyler really appreciated. I hate that SST software it's the worst one i've seen. Will this Hazardscript work with my X45. I know you have and X36 are they compatible?

Many thanks

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Message Edited on 07/11/0311:42AM by StrypheR1

XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 04:42 PM
The pinkie switch is not just a shift key, I have mine programmed for padlock.

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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 04:43 PM
You're perfectly welcome, mate. And welcome to the fold /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif



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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 04:43 PM
make sure you have the latest programming software/drivers from saiteks' site. When you install it make sure that you select the full (advanced) install option.

It allows you to set the POV as a mouse emulation which is far better than as a POV hat.

Spend a bit of time looking at the programming interface. It's quite simple really, when you figure it out.

It is basically a keyboard emulator, so the best thing to do is to go into Il2, look at the control screen and see what keyboard buttons do what. Write them down (or at least the ones that you think you will use most) then exit it and map the keys in the programming software.

I can e-mail you my latest one if you like. It seems to be pretty good.


I might be the only one but I prefer the new saitek software to hazzardscript



Message Edited on 07/11/0303:50PM by OJ79

XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 04:48 PM
Another dumb question how do you private message someone on these forums?

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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 04:50 PM
At the top right of the page is an envelope icon with 'no messages' written next to it. I think you click on that...

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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 04:54 PM
I actually map mine to Weapon 2...


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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 05:34 PM
I use it exclusively for my voicecomm switch, perfect for it.

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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 06:06 PM
Ok then tell me this, If you were to hold down the pinkie sw and fire the red button that hides under that flip plastic thingi wouldn't you need a Hulk size hand for that? Like I'm 27 and all but my hands arent' that big.


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Message Edited on 07/11/0301:08PM by StrypheR1

XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 06:32 PM
You´ll need to be 34 like me, then your hands will be big enoughhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif.

But seriously, I think you have the stick placed at the keyboard table, like where the screen is. That is too high, try securing it to a stool or something and have it placed like in a real fighter plane, between your legs. Then the throttle on another item to your left.

You´ll get another angle to it and it won´t feel to big anymore. Also it allows you to sit further from the screen which feel good in the long run. Expecially with a 21".

XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 08:30 PM
I use Pinkie switch for centre view (I fly mouselook so I need to be able to snap the view to front and centre instantly at all times)
I've never found the need to use shifted states on the X45. Tons of buttons and dials and stuff to play with anyway.