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Franzen
02-18-2004, 05:57 AM
Hi,
I have been warned by a moderator about posting topics that do not directly relate to IL-2. I've been reading this forum(quite interesting)for almost 2 years now but very rarely posted. Recently I've posted topics that, although not meant to be political, they somehow always turned out to be anywhere from bashing America to bashing opposite governmental systems.
Tully(moderator)has told me that posting any topics not relating to IL-2 can lead to the banning of the postee. Honestly I hadn't read the rules, I've been to busy reading the threads http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. Anyways, rules are rules. I do understand completely. If you think about it they have to protect the forum and themselves, I know it's nothing personal. I would just like to say thanks to all who shared their opinions whether negative or positive and apologize to those who may have taken anything personally. And Tully, I have no animosity towards you as I know you are doing your job. Take care all and have a good flight.

Fritz Franzen

Franzen
02-18-2004, 05:57 AM
Hi,
I have been warned by a moderator about posting topics that do not directly relate to IL-2. I've been reading this forum(quite interesting)for almost 2 years now but very rarely posted. Recently I've posted topics that, although not meant to be political, they somehow always turned out to be anywhere from bashing America to bashing opposite governmental systems.
Tully(moderator)has told me that posting any topics not relating to IL-2 can lead to the banning of the postee. Honestly I hadn't read the rules, I've been to busy reading the threads http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. Anyways, rules are rules. I do understand completely. If you think about it they have to protect the forum and themselves, I know it's nothing personal. I would just like to say thanks to all who shared their opinions whether negative or positive and apologize to those who may have taken anything personally. And Tully, I have no animosity towards you as I know you are doing your job. Take care all and have a good flight.

Fritz Franzen

Extreme_One
02-18-2004, 06:08 AM
Does this post actually relate to Il2 at all? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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Rajvosa
02-18-2004, 06:11 AM
Hm... I guess half the posts should be removed and posters banned then. Strange! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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resev
02-18-2004, 06:11 AM
Its no problem.

You see, the problem is not Tully himself, he is a moderator, but he is no more than you or me, in fact, he has a harder time to post or reply to anything because of his position, afterall, he has to not only abide by the rules, but enforce them himself.

I'l tell you what, you strike me as a decent guy who has eyes in front of his face to distinguish good from bad, so i invite you to register in CWOS.
CWOS is a place where the old sticks meet, but its not exclusive about the game, far from it.
You have far more freedom there, you can speak your mind, as long as you don't offend someone else in the process.

So, keep exclusive IL-2 topics in the oficial forum, and go to CWOS to general discussion and free roaming with the older sticks from IL-2.

here you go, follow the link:
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Zayets
02-18-2004, 06:16 AM
I'd say ban Tully! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif
Beside , he deserves it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/icon_twisted.gif

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NorrisMcWhirter
02-18-2004, 06:17 AM
Hi,

It's commendable that you apologise. I trust that the other parties involved were similarily warned.

Regards
Norris


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Franzen
02-18-2004, 06:23 AM
Ha ha ha, no, can't ban Tully, someone has to listen to the whiners. He's doing his job that I'm sure I wouldn't want to have. It's kinda like babysitting but with way more sht. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
Resev, thanks a lot, we'll probably meet at the other forum. Opening it now.
Tully, I'll drink a beer for you, ...or maybe 2,......or more http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Fritz Franzen

Bearcat99
02-18-2004, 06:26 AM
I must warn you......CWOS is a cesspool where all the scum in the IL2 universe meet...along with the old veterans and honorable warriors of bygone days........ be forewarned...it is not a place for the faint of heart, the thin skinned..or the squeamish....... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif<UL TYPE=SQUARE>http://www.jodavidsmeyer.com/combat/bookstore/tuskegeebondposter.jpg (http://tuskegeeairmen.org/airmen/who.html)[/list]<UL TYPE=SQUARE>vflyer@comcast.net [/list]<UL TYPE=SQUARE>99thPursuit Squadron IL2 Forgotten Battles (http://www.geocities.com/rt_bearcat)[/list]
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Franzen
02-18-2004, 06:43 AM
Ha ha ha, that's ok Bearcat, there's good and bad everywhere you go. I'm glad to know the some IL-2 guyz go there. I like to hear the various opinions and I feel I can learn alot. I think IL-2 players are a certain breed. I'm sure not all are bad. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif Thanx for the warning though http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Fritz Franzen

Cardinal25
02-18-2004, 07:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bearcat99:
I must warn you......CWOS is a cesspool where all the scum in the IL2 universe meet...along with the old veterans and honorable warriors of bygone days........ be forewarned...it is not a place for the faint of heart, the thin skinned..or the squeamish....... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gifhttp<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmmm, am I the scum of IL-2 or an honorable old Vet? Man, my mind is a mix over this one.


Good bump Res., BC. I wouldn't call it a Cess pool though, more like a locker room or dive bar. I'd like to add that you will be offended at one point or another (usually in a bout 5 minutes) at CWoS. It is all about the price of being able to post just about anything you want.

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Franzen
02-18-2004, 07:10 AM
Hmmmm, offended every 5 minutes. I'll take on the challenge and say it's character building http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif I'll look forward to the 4mins 59 secs in between.
I hate to be the one to say this but, topic? Il-2? Political?. I started this thread and I'm gonna get in trouble again http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif Can I be judged by my intentions? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Fritz Franzen

Bearcat99
02-18-2004, 07:14 AM
I mean cesspool in a "nice" way...its a "nice" cesspool...... and youd be one of those guys from bygone days..LOL.... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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michapma
02-18-2004, 07:33 AM
CWoS is a complete waste, man.



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DuxCorvan
02-18-2004, 07:47 AM
Don't worry. Since a three-year forum just typing endless threads about a game seems a bit stupid and obsessed thing, we must assume that games forums are just a excuse to argument about anything. The game is just a social convention, like talking about weather in an elevator. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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woofiedog
02-18-2004, 08:15 AM
Why not BAN the people who keep turning a posting into a Anti- American or any other type of bashing.
Most of these people could care less about the game or what issues are being brought up and disscussed at the Forum.
They only use this open forum to push their Anti-Bull S--t agendas!
Why are they allowed a free ride to particapate with the rest of us that do enjoy this game and take some pleasure with the people who paticapate in this forum.

arcadeace
02-18-2004, 08:38 AM
That's a good point woofie. Politics is a hard thing to digest here almost anyway its approached. On occasion it can be fun but its usually pretty quick before someone gets their anti 2 cents worth in. I've had my moments of bashing members who make opportunities.

I'm glad Tully deleted and locked that thread to make a statement, Franzen's choices and involvement created an atmosphere for too much antagonism.

He's proven himself in this thread to be a man about it, and nice guy. My opinion is he's ripe to enjoy CWOS. Maybe someday I'll join him http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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repco
02-18-2004, 08:41 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Extreme_One:
Does this post actually relate to Il2 at all? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

lol! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I quite like this forum's rules: here for on-topic discussion & CWoS for off-topic, works well I think http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Franzen
02-18-2004, 09:59 AM
Actually I posted the N Korea topic simply cause I had just found out about it and that I've seen lots of topics like this(human rights)in here. Minutes before posting it I had just read another thread(guess where) about concentration camps. Trust me, I never thought of it in a political way or even having anything to do with the U.S.. I've been reading these kinds of threads here for the last 2 years. So I guess there has to be a change sometime.

Fritz Franzen

LilHorse
02-18-2004, 10:17 AM
On behalf of the entire IL2 community I accept your apology. And I apologise to all those who feel it presumptive of me to accept an apology on behalf of the entire IL2 community. This is offered in the hope that the entire IL2 community will accept my apology for having accepted an apology entirely on their behalf. Thank you.

Franzen
02-18-2004, 10:21 AM
I'm sorry, could you repeat that http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

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Fritz Franzen

ASH at S-MART
02-18-2004, 11:28 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Franzen:
Honestly I hadn't read the rules, I've been to busy reading the threads http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Well cant say that I and others didnt warn yah! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Franzen:
I would just like to say thanks to all who shared their opinions whether negative or positive and apologize<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Accepted!

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Franzen
02-18-2004, 07:42 PM
Ha ha ha, interestingly enough, I can still read and participate in threads in IL-2 where as players are freely voicing their opinion and believe it or not, turning it political. But I do understand what happened and what is still happening; The squeeky wheels get the grease. Had I not rebucked the whiners I wouldn't have received the warning. I could never understand why no one ever talked back to the whiners but now I do. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif This really is a democracy http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif

Fritz Franzen

ASH at S-MART
02-18-2004, 08:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Franzen:
Ha ha ha, interestingly enough, I can still read and participate in threads in IL-2 where as players are freely voicing their opinion<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
As it should be!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Franzen:
and believe it or not, turning it political. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Sad but true.. but there is a big difference between a thread that starts out about IL2 and ends up political and one that starts off with nothing to do with IL2.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Franzen:
But I do understand what happened and what is still happening; The squeeky wheels get the grease. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That's too bad you feel that way.. But it seems to be the norm these days.. people just dont want to take responsabilty for thier actions.. just easier to blame squeeky wheels... I mean others.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Franzen:
Had I not rebucked the whiners I wouldn't have received the warning.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Or had you read the rules.. You know the ones you admited you never read, you would have know from the get go.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Franzen:
I could never understand why no one ever talked back to the whiners but now I do.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Promise?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Franzen:
This really is a democracy<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>No, this is a specific place to talk about specific things.. it is that simple

Fritz Franzen[/QUOTE]Hmmm I would have to disagree with your statment about

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