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wapikas
06-12-2013, 08:03 AM
Are these rumors true that the brotherhood system has been removed? no more assassins recruits? In AC3 it was done so well with different commands like stealing, rioting etc. It is a pity, AC3 recruit system would have been perfect for AC4 pirate crew.

Moultonborough
06-12-2013, 08:13 AM
"(Also gone, McDevitt tells us, is the Brotherhood – meaning no more “nuclear” option with your allies popping out of bushes to kill your foes for you. Your crew is the new Brotherhood, but they are limited to Jackdaw-related gameplay.)" http://blog.ubi.com/assassins-creed-4-black-flag-horizon-gameplay-demo-preview/

Yes, they are history. Crew sorta replaces them.

wapikas
06-12-2013, 08:35 AM
"(Also gone, McDevitt tells us, is the Brotherhood – meaning no more “nuclear” option with your allies popping out of bushes to kill your foes for you. Your crew is the new Brotherhood, but they are limited to Jackdaw-related gameplay.)" http://blog.ubi.com/assassins-creed-4-black-flag-horizon-gameplay-demo-preview/

Yes, they are history. Crew sorta replaces them.
Has McDevit even played AC3? I recently played AC3 and focused only doing missions only with the help of assassins. But the truth is that you get the assassins after mid game and majority of missions are structured in this way that using assassins recruits is impossible. (stalking, frontier missions, chasing, prison missions, etc.) so I ended game basically not using them. It was a shame that ubisoft created very good game mechanis but you didn't had chance to use it. Assassin recruits become very handy when it comes to big fights and taking over the forts in city (with stealth). It is a great game mechanics with lot of options to expand missions and story (ACR recruit missions). If you don't want to use them you don't have to but it is nice to have this option.

SixKeys
06-12-2013, 01:04 PM
Has McDevit even played AC3? I recently played AC3 and focused only doing missions only with the help of assassins. But the truth is that you get the assassins after mid game and majority of missions are structured in this way that using assassins recruits is impossible. (stalking, frontier missions, chasing, prison missions, etc.) so I ended game basically not using them. It was a shame that ubisoft created very good game mechanis but you didn't had chance to use it. Assassin recruits become very handy when it comes to big fights and taking over the forts in city (with stealth). It is a great game mechanics with lot of options to expand missions and story (ACR recruit missions). If you don't want to use them you don't have to but it is nice to have this option.

The recruits were fine for two games (ACB and ACR) but in AC3 they were pretty much useless as you said. I don't want the devs to keep certain mechanics just for the sake of having them if they have no real use. It makes sense storywise too as Edward seems to be all about himself, not some wise mentor who goes around recruiting people to the cause.

ProletariatPleb
06-12-2013, 01:16 PM
It's a useless mechanic, basically a "win" button. All the other things were implement but never useful at all.

DisbandedBox359
06-12-2013, 02:13 PM
kenways fleet sounds like its replacing the recruit contracts as well

Ureh
06-12-2013, 02:39 PM
The recruits were fine for two games (ACB and ACR) but in AC3 they were pretty much useless as you said. I don't want the devs to keep certain mechanics just for the sake of having them if they have no real use. It makes sense storywise too as Edward seems to be all about himself, not some wise mentor who goes around recruiting people to the cause.

What is his "cause" for recruiting?

SixKeys
06-12-2013, 02:40 PM
What is his "cause" for recruiting?

Like I said, he has no cause, at least not similar to Ezio. He recruits crew members because they can work for him, not because he wants to train them to be assassins and protect people's free will.

Ureh
06-12-2013, 02:44 PM
Like I said, he has no cause, at least not similar to Ezio. He recruits crew members because they can work for him, not because he wants to train them to be assassins and protect people's free will.

So they make him an Assassin then let him do whatever?

MasterAssasin84
06-12-2013, 02:56 PM
Are these rumors true that the brotherhood system has been removed? no more assassins recruits? In AC3 it was done so well with different commands like stealing, rioting etc. It is a pity, AC3 recruit system would have been perfect for AC4 pirate crew.

Actualy this suits me down to the ground ! i much prefer the experience of playing as a lone Assassin rather than relying on my brotherhood ( obviously it has tactical advantages) but i prefer the aspect of planning and Assassination myself for example looking at my environment, can i use members of the public to aid my advance ! you know really abiding by the creed and the rules of the Assassin - the elusive tennent hide in plain site.

I agree that the new features in AC3 like the lure and my personal favourite the covert escort was fun to use and did prove useful in certain situations but all in all i prfer the asbect of a Lone Assassin and i am equaly pleased that the Assassination contracts are returning to the AC2 formular.

Rugterwyper32
06-12-2013, 02:57 PM
The other thing about this, if there's a more established brotherhood in this game around the Caribbean, then Edward is most likely seen as an apprentice and recruiting more people for the brotherhood might be handled by others already, nevermind he's pretty low rank. By ACB Ezio was prominent enough in the brotherhood to do that part, and with Connor, well, the brotherhood around his area wasn't much of one considering it was just him and Achilles, so he did good trying to rebuild it there.

MasterAssasin84
06-12-2013, 03:03 PM
The other thing about this, if there's a more established brotherhood in this game around the Caribbean, then Edward is most likely seen as an apprentice and recruiting more people for the brotherhood might be handled by others already, nevermind he's pretty low rank. By ACB Ezio was prominent enough in the brotherhood to do that part, and with Connor, well, the brotherhood around his area wasn't much of one considering it was just him and Achilles, so he did good trying to rebuild it there.

Also the fact that Edward as a Pirate has a whole crew at his disposal so it would not make much sense to recruit new Assassin especialy going by the first ever trailor Blackbeard clearly states to the other seadogs that he has secrets that should not be medelled in... Eluding to the Assassin side of Edward.

SixKeys
06-12-2013, 03:14 PM
So they make him an Assassin then let him do whatever?

He's a recruit himself, not a full assassin. Why would they send a beginner to recruit others?

BATISTABUS
06-12-2013, 03:29 PM
This had already been semi-confirmed, but it is a glorious day indeed.

Ureh
06-12-2013, 03:30 PM
I'm not talking about recruiting other potential Assassins, I'm referring to the possibility that he might not be recruiting pirates for his own reasons (ie for himself). Does he have ulterior motives for recruiting pirates? This isn't like Ezio hiring another faction for a job, Edward is forming/maintaining bonds usually reserved for members of the brotherhood. Why is the Brotherhood letting him do this, or is Edward rebelling against them?

Aphex_Tim
06-12-2013, 03:45 PM
I'm not talking about recruiting other potential Assassins, I'm referring to the possibility that he might not be recruiting pirates for his own reasons (ie for himself). Does he have ulterior motives for recruiting pirates? This isn't like Ezio hiring another faction for a job, Edward is forming/maintaining bonds usually reserved for members of the brotherhood. Why is the Brotherhood letting him do this, or is Edward rebelling against them?

I'm also curious to see how this will play out. But Edward's conflict between being a pirate and being an Assassin seems to be the main focus of the game. Time will tell!

Bashilir
06-12-2013, 04:14 PM
Good. I'd always accidentally press the button to send them in... I wonder what mechanic will replace this? Crouching? Putting hood down? Hm? HM?

ProletariatPleb
06-12-2013, 04:18 PM
Good. I'd always accidentally press the button to send them in... I wonder what mechanic will replace this? Crouching? Putting hood down? Hm? HM?
They confirmed you cannot manually remove the hood.

Bashilir
06-12-2013, 04:21 PM
They confirmed you cannot manually remove the hood.



..... Crouching button? I don't know anymore. Maybe it won't be some useless mechanic that could've gone without.

Sushiglutton
06-12-2013, 04:57 PM
Excellent :D!