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pacmanate
05-28-2013, 04:41 PM
How did he get 2 and why don't his swivel?

ProletariatPleb
05-28-2013, 04:51 PM
He got them from Miko?

catkiller97
05-28-2013, 04:54 PM
YES ^

Main source is Forsaken novel.

During a mission to kidnap a young rebel named Lucio, Haytham encountered the Assassin Miko, who was assigned to protect the young man. On being ambushed by the Assassin, Haytham lost his treasured short sword, though the fight ended when Haytham pulled Miko into a crevasse, but was subsequently dragged in along with him; this resulted in Miko grabbing ahold of a rope and Haytham's arm to prevent himself from falling into a steep drop. Haytham, however, loosened Miko's Hidden Blade from his arm and bit his hand, causing Miko to fall into the drop. While this did not finish off his adversary, upon Haytham's suggestion, Miko fled to fight another day.

Afterwards, having the Assassin's Hidden Blade to compensate for his lost sword, Haytham then brought Lucio to Birch.

taken from wikia.

pacmanate
05-28-2013, 05:32 PM
I've read forsaken, and he only unfastens one of Miko's hidden blades, that's what I don't understand. He never obtains a second one at all.

ProletariatPleb
05-28-2013, 05:37 PM
It's not really that relevant, maybe he got it from another Assassin seeing as it seems the Templars were winning i'd say a number Assassins probably got killed and the other one probably belonged to one.

pacmanate
05-28-2013, 05:39 PM
It's not really that relevant, maybe he got it from another Assassin seeing as it seems the Templars were winning i'd say a number Assassins probably got killed and the other one probably belonged to one.

He never had any encounters with Assassin's after Miko.

ProletariatPleb
05-28-2013, 05:47 PM
He never had any encounters with Assassin's after Miko.
Didn't read Forsaken, don't know.

But it's not really important I'd say. Maybe they just made a ******* blade themselves.

itsamea-mario
05-28-2013, 05:54 PM
What if he only has one, the other is in your imagination.

guardian_titan
05-28-2013, 06:14 PM
Hidden blades can't be that hard to make. It's likely once Haytham stole Miko's blade, he took it to a blacksmith and had another made. Looking at the two hidden blades he wears, it's likely the one with the assassin symbol was Miko's and the other Haytham had made later. Haytham had to of done it rather quickly since he only got Miko's blade within a year or so of the game start. Having little experience with the blade prior to the game start certainly explains Haytham's preference toward the sword even when he's an NPC later on. Granted, he was mostly sword trained as a child as well.

As for why his don't swivel, maybe that was something Achilles invented with Ziio's help back before Haytham came to the US. Connor didn't have enough time to tweak the blades to swivel himself so had to of been Achilles or even John de la Tour. You can probably think of each branch of the assassns as a tree. Each one may grow differently and with different "leaves" but they can cross and trade things to make themselves survive better against the Templars. Bit of evolution when you think about it. The European assassins maybe had no need of the swivel blade while the Americans did. Necessity is the mother of invention after all. Ezio had no idea what a hook blade was until he went to Istanbul in ACR. There was no real need for such a thing in Europe. Same can be said for the swivel blade. :p Otherwise, to take the lazy way out, Haytham never skins any animals and tends to default to his sword in combat so we never really see him use his hidden blades much unless we force him to use them when he's playable. On top of that, the guy wasn't trained in them so maybe he didn't like the swivel mechanism. Swivel it wrong and he'd take off a finger. :p So maybe his did swivel. He just put a stick in the mechanism to keep it from swiveling or something.

pacmanate
05-28-2013, 06:52 PM
Hidden blades can't be that hard to make. It's likely once Haytham stole Miko's blade, he took it to a blacksmith and had another made. Looking at the two hidden blades he wears, it's likely the one with the assassin symbol was Miko's and the other Haytham had made later. Haytham had to of done it rather quickly since he only got Miko's blade within a year or so of the game start. Having little experience with the blade prior to the game start certainly explains Haytham's preference toward the sword even when he's an NPC later on. Granted, he was mostly sword trained as a child as well.

As for why his don't swivel, maybe that was something Achilles invented with Ziio's help back before Haytham came to the US. Connor didn't have enough time to tweak the blades to swivel himself so had to of been Achilles or even John de la Tour. You can probably think of each branch of the assassns as a tree. Each one may grow differently and with different "leaves" but they can cross and trade things to make themselves survive better against the Templars. Bit of evolution when you think about it. The European assassins maybe had no need of the swivel blade while the Americans did. Necessity is the mother of invention after all. Ezio had no idea what a hook blade was until he went to Istanbul in ACR. There was no real need for such a thing in Europe. Same can be said for the swivel blade. :p Otherwise, to take the lazy way out, Haytham never skins any animals and tends to default to his sword in combat so we never really see him use his hidden blades much unless we force him to use them when he's playable. On top of that, the guy wasn't trained in them so maybe he didn't like the swivel mechanism. Swivel it wrong and he'd take off a finger. :p So maybe his did swivel. He just put a stick in the mechanism to keep it from swiveling or something.

Eh, I'll just go with this haha

itsamea-mario
05-28-2013, 07:27 PM
Hidden blades can't be that hard to make. It's likely once Haytham stole Miko's blade, he took it to a blacksmith and had another made. Looking at the two hidden blades he wears, it's likely the one with the assassin symbol was Miko's and the other Haytham had made later. Haytham had to of done it rather quickly since he only got Miko's blade within a year or so of the game start. Having little experience with the blade prior to the game start certainly explains Haytham's preference toward the sword even when he's an NPC later on. Granted, he was mostly sword trained as a child as well.

As for why his don't swivel, maybe that was something Achilles invented with Ziio's help back before Haytham came to the US. Connor didn't have enough time to tweak the blades to swivel himself so had to of been Achilles or even John de la Tour. You can probably think of each branch of the assassns as a tree. Each one may grow differently and with different "leaves" but they can cross and trade things to make themselves survive better against the Templars. Bit of evolution when you think about it. The European assassins maybe had no need of the swivel blade while the Americans did. Necessity is the mother of invention after all. Ezio had no idea what a hook blade was until he went to Istanbul in ACR. There was no real need for such a thing in Europe. Same can be said for the swivel blade. :p Otherwise, to take the lazy way out, Haytham never skins any animals and tends to default to his sword in combat so we never really see him use his hidden blades much unless we force him to use them when he's playable. On top of that, the guy wasn't trained in them so maybe he didn't like the swivel mechanism. Swivel it wrong and he'd take off a finger. :p So maybe his did swivel. He just put a stick in the mechanism to keep it from swiveling or something.

Like connor has any technical knowledge besides snares whatsover.

AjinkyaParuleka
05-28-2013, 07:40 PM
I think the second one is just for gameplay purposes.

Assassin_M
05-28-2013, 09:07 PM
Like connor has any technical knowledge besides snares whatsover.
Trees?

pacmanate
05-28-2013, 09:20 PM
Trees?

Trees and snares are the same thing

Assassin_M
05-28-2013, 09:25 PM
Trees and snares are the same thing
mind=blown :O

pacmanate
05-28-2013, 09:55 PM
As it goes, since when did Fish attract:

Hares
Foxs
Deer
Elk

:|

poptartz20
05-29-2013, 09:47 AM
I think the second one is just for gameplay purposes.

This.

Also I agree.. who is to say he or another templar and or blacksmith couldn't have just created another one.