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XyZspineZyX
09-18-2003, 12:02 AM
Why are the bombs spring loaded? They spring out of the plane instead of just dropping. If you have a small amount (or large) of bank your bomb squirts sideways before beginning it's gravity drop, generating misses, especially important when using smaller bombs. And if you're upside down, shame on you! You get to bomb yourself.

XyZspineZyX
09-18-2003, 12:02 AM
Why are the bombs spring loaded? They spring out of the plane instead of just dropping. If you have a small amount (or large) of bank your bomb squirts sideways before beginning it's gravity drop, generating misses, especially important when using smaller bombs. And if you're upside down, shame on you! You get to bomb yourself.

XyZspineZyX
09-18-2003, 12:13 AM
You know, even the original Kesmai 'Air Warrior' for DOS had this fixed. If you tried to release a bomb under negative Gs, or in an attitude where it would hit your plane, it'd go:

"Bombing the ceiling is not allowed!"

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XyZspineZyX
09-18-2003, 01:42 AM
Uh, if your banking and not applying elevator and rudder to keep moving forward while banked 'therefore skidding the aircraft' your aircraft will be turning and the bombs would 'skid' sideways from your point of view as inertia and the resultant centripedal force will keep its acceleration vector in the direction the aircraft was heading when it was released.


RxMan wrote:
- Why are the bombs spring loaded? They spring out of
- the plane instead of just dropping. If you have a
- small amount (or large) of bank your bomb squirts
- sideways before beginning it's gravity drop,
- generating misses, especially important when using
- smaller bombs. And if you're upside down, shame on
- you! You get to bomb yourself.
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XyZspineZyX
09-18-2003, 01:56 AM
Cragger is correct.....

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XyZspineZyX
09-18-2003, 02:11 AM
Well

if your banking and not applying elevator and rudder to keep moving forward.

should read

if your banking and not applying elevator and rudder to keep your acceleration vector constant.

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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 03:11 PM
But if you are applying elevator/rudder, and your acceleration/velocity vector is not moving the bombs still spring out! No big deal, just wishing it wasn't so, and wondering why it's there at all.

XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 04:09 PM
I think it is the physics model and that it was also like this in real life. Your bomb wants to continue its flight forward but, your plane is turning somewhat. Go figure..

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XyZspineZyX
09-22-2003, 04:13 PM
Try unloading (flying a zero-G parable) and dropping a bomb. If it drops away, they're spring loaded. Interesting. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

On modern aircraft, there are pistons pushing the store away from the pylon. Different stores require different amounts and distribution of power for a safe separation - it's a bit of a hassle.

I have not had the chance to investigate WWII era pylons to that detail as of yet, anyone know if they had something similar?

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