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VVanks
03-11-2004, 01:39 PM
FW-190's and Bf109's don't eject brass casings when you fire your linked machine guns.

Where do they go? Is there a seperate box for them?

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VVanks
03-11-2004, 01:39 PM
FW-190's and Bf109's don't eject brass casings when you fire your linked machine guns.

Where do they go? Is there a seperate box for them?

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xenios
03-11-2004, 01:52 PM
Yes, quite a few planes collect some or all of their shell casings. I wonder if they recycled them later?

VF-17_Jolly
03-11-2004, 02:16 PM
Well i didn`t the luftwaffe was enviromently friendly http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif

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73GIAP_Milan
03-11-2004, 02:24 PM
hmm...maybe that is modeled wrong in il2??

i have books full with cutaway drawings of all sorts of aircraft but i have never seen any shell-collecting boxes in any luftwaffe fighter..

i even have pics (the EAW manual cover for example) where a bf109 spills LOTS of shells....

But i'm still unsure...most aircraft just dumped their empty shells because if they did'nt they had to carry extra weight...

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Taylortony
03-11-2004, 02:40 PM
The Jaguar GR1 jet fighter retains the links for use again and dumps the shell cases overboard, suppose if you miss em with the pointy bit you might as well dump the heavy bit on em as you go past http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

VVanks
03-11-2004, 02:59 PM
So anyone have conclusive evidence?

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Sabla
03-11-2004, 10:16 PM
Well.. in the WW2 movie Dark Blue World, a 109 is pursuing a Spit over a British base and as the trainees are watching (from beside the bicycles they were using as mock aircraft) a cannon shell casing comes zipping out of the sky and lands in the spokes of one of the bikes.
Just a movie... but they strove for quite a bit of accuracy on this one.

Excellent movie by the way, English subtitles, movie was made in Czechoslovakia.

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mllaneza
03-11-2004, 11:09 PM
In the game, shell casings fall a long ways. I've seen them catch the sun from almost 1000m, and I'm pretty sure I've seen them hitting the ground when strafed on the field.

Oh yes, and a bump for a Dark Blue World reference.

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CzechTexan
03-12-2004, 12:09 AM
i've often wondered about all the shells and bullets from wars past in europe. Europe's fields must be loaded with metal collected through the ages.



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kweassa
03-12-2004, 12:16 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CzechTexan:
i've often wondered about all the shells and bullets from wars past in europe. Europe's fields must be loaded with metal collected through the ages.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

As a matter of fact, that is true.

Typically in some of the terrains that have retained strategic/tactical value throughout the ages, (thus, becoming a stage for battles for ages to come), the whole field is scattered with buried metal stuff that spans an era between something like the 12th century to the 20th century.

HansKnappstick
03-12-2004, 03:12 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by kweassa:
(...)the whole field is scattered with buried metal stuff that spans an era between something like the 12th century to the 20th century.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
True, and some of that stuff (from the WW 1 and 2) remains active sometimes, being thus dangerous for the happy finder.

Back to the topic: the casings from the German Mk 108 cannon were gathered... Lack of row materials was getting severe in Germany durning the war.

Willthisnamedo
03-12-2004, 03:39 AM
Yup: lots of munitions out there: still killing French and Belgian farmers at harvest/ploughing time. Also still lots of bones...

x6BL_Brando
03-12-2004, 03:46 AM
Slightly OT, but I used to own a water-pipe (for smoking with) that was made in Libya. It was made of brass from a spent tank shell-casing and finely tooled and decorated by a local craftsman. At least they got something back from having a war fought across their country!

Hawgdog
03-12-2004, 07:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by xenios:
Yes, quite a few planes collect some or all of their shell casings. I wonder if they recycled them later?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL, Ever wonder why pennies made in 43-44 were made of steel?
Oh yeah brass and copper were in short supply in war times.

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