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glottis77
04-24-2004, 12:10 PM
Who in here knows this Dynamix game released in 1992. It made me become a flight-sim fanatic, I think except for FB I didn't play a game more often then Aces. I loved to start the war and fly it to the end, especially on the U.S. side. I liked the "historic" missions and the many many planes you could fly. My favourites were the P-39 on the U.S. and the Frank on the Japanese side. I also got the add-on which included "fantasy" planes, I loved that Japanese Me-262 thing - forgot how it was called.
So, if you get nostalgic when thinking about a pacific air war game, let me know.
p.s. since i liked it so much i think i will ever tend to like pacific sims more than european ones
p.p.s. since it was not really a sim, rather an action-sim and since i flew it "stellar" i guess i never learnt better strategies than T'n'B when more serious games came out (1942, EAW). only FB made me realize that what happened in Aces of the Pacific "might" not have been how it was really done :-)

glottis77
04-24-2004, 12:10 PM
Who in here knows this Dynamix game released in 1992. It made me become a flight-sim fanatic, I think except for FB I didn't play a game more often then Aces. I loved to start the war and fly it to the end, especially on the U.S. side. I liked the "historic" missions and the many many planes you could fly. My favourites were the P-39 on the U.S. and the Frank on the Japanese side. I also got the add-on which included "fantasy" planes, I loved that Japanese Me-262 thing - forgot how it was called.
So, if you get nostalgic when thinking about a pacific air war game, let me know.
p.s. since i liked it so much i think i will ever tend to like pacific sims more than european ones
p.p.s. since it was not really a sim, rather an action-sim and since i flew it "stellar" i guess i never learnt better strategies than T'n'B when more serious games came out (1942, EAW). only FB made me realize that what happened in Aces of the Pacific "might" not have been how it was really done :-)

VW-IceFire
04-24-2004, 12:31 PM
I still occasionally fire it up because it covers so much of the air war and its so much fun. Its not very realistic by todays standards (even Aces Over Europe was a little more realistic) BUT it was likely close to the best possible with that times computer power.

I never got to play the 1946 addon tho. That musta been something!

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Snow_Wolf_
04-24-2004, 12:47 PM
still got it and still play it love the 1946 part where we got Kikka vs P-80 but i usually fly the J7w shinden.

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glottis77
04-24-2004, 12:54 PM
do you by chance know how this japanese jet was called, the one that looks like the me-262. i also wonder i anyone has a list of flyable planes for that 1946 expansion.

kozhe
04-24-2004, 01:03 PM
How do you play this game? I use DosBox emulator but it dosenāĀ“t work ok http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gif

FatBoyHK
04-24-2004, 01:12 PM
tell you guy, I have the manual of AOTP on my desk NOW! It is one of the games that take me in the world of computer (the other are SWOTL and XWING).... and 10 years later, I am now a research student in Computer Science (it is a shame I am not a game designer, but anyway :P)

TAGERT.
04-24-2004, 01:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by glottis77:
Who in here knows this Dynamix game released in 1992.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I do.. good ol AOTP.. I did some of my best MOD's back then.. Back then all you needed was a HEX editor and lots of time on your hands! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I have very fond memorys of the old COMPUSERVE FSFORUM and all the guys that help out.. Nick Bell and I did some really cool addons for the AOTP and AOE sims.

Some of my work is still out on the web for dl

http://www.gamers.org/pub/games/uwp-uml/fltsim-mirror/AOTP/1946ii.txt

funny, seems like a million years ago.

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TAGERT.
04-24-2004, 01:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by glottis77:
I also got the add-on which included "fantasy" planes, I loved that Japanese Me-262 thing - forgot how it was called.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Kikka

http://www.j-aircraft.com/walk/tim_hortman/kikka-1.jpg
http://www.aerohistorians.org/meeting/02082003/kikka.jpg
http://www.ijnafpics.com/JB&W/Kikka-6.jpg
http://www.ijnafpics.com/JB&W2/Kikka-10.jpg
http://www.ijnafpics.com/JB&W/Kikka-7.jpg

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Penguin_PFF
04-24-2004, 04:37 PM
Half my childhood was wrapped up in that game. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif How could I forget it? I was depressed when my 386SX at 20MHz with 4MB of RAM couldn't handle Aces Over Europe, though.

Does anybody remember intercepting Japanese planes over cloud cover? Those fights were always fun. And beating up coastal installations... Strafing ships... Man, that game had it all. I never could find the expansion.

Does anybody know of a reliable way to play the game in Windows 2000 that actually works?

TAGERT.
04-24-2004, 04:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Penguin_PFF:
Does anybody know of a reliable way to play the game in Windows 2000 that actually works?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I would be interested in that too.. Seria put out a CD a few years back with AOTP, AOE and RBI on it.. I picked it up on the bargin bin.. Never tried it though.. I would imagine it would not support the current crop of USB controlers.. the code only supported game port devices... Thus running it in DOS or emlated DOS probally wont work... Unless there is some util that would/could emulate the USB joysticks too.. ie make them appear as game port devices.

But that is just a guess... I see that some here claim to fly it still.. Would you guys tell us how you do that and the types of joystick your using... ie USB or old Gameport stuff?

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Penguin_PFF
04-24-2004, 08:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I would be interested in that too.. Sierra put out a CD a few years back with AOTP, AOE and RBI on it.. I picked it up on the bargain bin..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have that exact same CD, and I couldn't get it to work on whatever Windows I was running at the time... Win98, I think. And I think I tried running it on my current Win2K machine and it didn't work either.

I would LOVE to be able to fly AOTP again for the hell of it.

Hunger
04-24-2004, 10:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Penguin_PFF:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I would be interested in that too.. Sierra put out a CD a few years back with AOTP, AOE and RBI on it.. I picked it up on the bargain bin..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have that exact same CD, and I couldn't get it to work on whatever Windows I was running at the time... Win98, I think. And I think I tried running it on my current Win2K machine and it didn't work either.

I would LOVE to be able to fly AOTP again for the hell of it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Search a program called Dosbox with google, sometimes its a little troublesome to tweak, but thanks to it i recently played AOTP again http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif .

Regards
Hunger

DuxCorvan
04-25-2004, 08:10 AM
DOSBox works great, although needs tweaking for every program.

For those interested in having these games, I must say that they are abandonware now. You can download them for free in 'Home of the Underdogs' site. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

No download assistant allowed there, I must warn.

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TAGERT.
04-25-2004, 09:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hunger:
Search a program called Dosbox with google, sometimes its a little troublesome to tweak, but thanks to it i recently played AOTP again http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif .

Regards
Hunger<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>DOSBox? Sounds promising.. Only question I would have about DOSBox.. Do you have a USB Joystick (or rudder, or throttle) and can you use it with AOTP when using DOSBox?

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Korolov
04-25-2004, 10:34 AM
I've played games dating back to about '92 and '93, and they work fine with USB controllers...

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VW-IceFire
04-25-2004, 10:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
DOSBox works great, although needs tweaking for every program.

For those interested in having these games, I must say that they are abandonware now. You can download them for free in 'Home of the Underdogs' site. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

No download assistant allowed there, I must warn.

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<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
But they still don't have the 1946 addon...that I could never find anywhere.

Yeah thats a great game...I still have all the original disks and the manual I still read from time to time. I wish game manuals were like that these days...I mean the book was worth almost as much as the game.

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DuxCorvan
04-25-2004, 01:48 PM
DOSBox is an incredibly effective DOS emulator that makes all these games work with modern USB joysticks, mouses and today's sound cards. I use it in XP and it's great.

The only setback is that you have to adjust speed to make it work properly, and it's not always an easy task to find that compromise between playability and frame rate.

In the site they have a list with all the games that are partially or fully supported. The list grows with every version, and it's still a beta...

As for the Underdogs' version of AOTP, I don't know. I own my old CD version that includes 1946...

I liked AOE also, and Red Baron, the first of that series. I loved those dawn patrol missions, you never knew what you were going to find... You could ignore enemy flights and they could ignore you too, if you both decided an engagement to be too dangerous. I miss that reality feature in FB/AEP.

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ArgonV
04-25-2004, 10:48 PM
Ah yes! I remember those days... AOTP and AOE were my FAVORITE sims at the time! You can still find a BUNCH of AOE things here at this site I put together some years ago:

http://argonv.tripod.com/AoE_Page.html

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ArgonV
04-25-2004, 10:57 PM
Hey Tagert, does anyone know if Timoleon Ravazoulas can still be contacted? I would be interested in getting the huge database of aircraft he had on his old site...

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TAGERT.
04-26-2004, 12:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ArgonV:
Hey Tagert, does anyone know if Timoleon Ravazoulas can still be contacted? I would be interested in getting the huge database of aircraft he had on his old site...

"Go Fly A Kite!"
-Jason R.
Head FS-WWI Project Leader
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Hey ArgonV! As for Timoleon.. Sorry sure dont... I think I DL it years ago.. But dam if I can find it now! Moved a few times and didnt lable my CD's too good! Ill see if I can find it.

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sugaki
04-26-2004, 12:58 PM
Physics were pretty goofy compared to today's standards, but I still regard it as the best Pacific sim. Starting as a Nate and ending the war in a Ki-84 ...I mean what other game allowed that?

I was totally bummed that the 1946 expansion didn't have the Reppu (as I'm a shameless fanboy of that plane). The dual-engined ki-83's were awesome though.

Hoping that PF will be the modern day version of Dynamix's game ...but we'll see.

Sharpe26
04-26-2004, 04:05 PM
talk about history. I loved that game, and a full install with dosbox was all I needed to get it going again. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

TgD Thunderbolt56
04-26-2004, 09:09 PM
Ahhh the memories. AOE and AOP were awesome games for their time. I can remember running them on my shiny new 486 dx2 66 with 16mb ram. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/34.gif

One of the things I really liked was the addition of aaactual Aces names and improved flight characteristics for them. In AOE, I can't tell you how many times I flew George Preddy's wing Against "pips" priller and co.

By today's standards, it's almost a laugh, but so are the machines we ran it on.

Great memories there. R.I.P.



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IV|JG51Flatspin
04-26-2004, 10:31 PM
AOTP was my second flight sim (RB being the first) and it really cemented my love of flying. AOE was visually stunning (for the time) but I kept going back to AOTP for the environment. Absolutely LOVED the Hellcat! But the Tigercat in the 1946 whatif was a B-yoot! If that plane was really that great...WOW! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

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P-DEX
04-27-2004, 03:52 PM
Ahh, AOTP and the glory days when Sierra/Dynamix could do no wrong...

I must say that the first sim than really got me hooked was Lucasfilms (Lucasarts now) "Their Finest Hour". No polygon planes, just 2-D sprites, but loaded with immersion (for the time). Next came the polygon-laced "Red Baron". Loads of fun and many sleepless nights...plus my old college buds coming in an playing the sucker at all hours of the day. THEN came AOTP, the sim that got me started in reading tons of books on the Pacific air war. I haven't stopped since. A worthwhile legacy, I must admit.

So yes, playing flight sims DOES make you smarter. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif