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Jayden26
11-14-2012, 02:19 AM
Assassin's Creed: Australia
Note: I tried uploading my photos to go with this but it doesn't work :(
Thank you for taking the time to read my idea for an Assassin's Creed set in Australia.
Australian Gold Rush 1850s
The Australian Gold Rush was a period in Australia's history where a massive gold rush in Victoria and New South Wales caused the Australian population to triple in just 10 years. This is the period I think would work best for an Assassin's Creed game, however buildings during this era were not as extravagant as those in the Federation Era. The Australian Gold Rush saw the rise of Bushrangers, the formation of the Australian aristocrats, and violent revolution leading to the "Birth of democracy in Australia".
• 1848- The first non-British ship carrying immigrants to arrive in Victoria was from Germany; The Goddefroy. Many of those aboard were political refugees known as "Forty-Eighters". The Forty-Eighters were Europeans who participated in or supported the socialist revolutions of 1848 that swept Europe. Many emigrated to Australia after the revolutions failed.
• 1849- The Australasian Anti-Transportation League was formed during a public meeting at Launceston, Tasmania.
• 1850- The Port Phillip District Wars finally come to an end after 20 years of conflict (1830-1850) in Victoria, Australia.
• 1851- Charles Augustus Fitzroy is commissioned as "Governor-General of all her Majesty's Australian possessions" beginning the rise of Australian aristocrats. (Picture below)

• 1851- "Black Thursday" bushfires rage from Mount Gambier to Melbourne, approximately 50,000 km² was burnt, 12 people were killed, and over one million sheep and thousands of cattle were lost.
(Paintings of the Black Thursday fires)

• 28th May 1851- The arrival of two convict ships the "Lady Kenneway" with 250 male prisoners and "Blackfriar" with 260 female prisoners, further turns Tasmanian sentiment against convict transportation.
• 1st July 1851- Victoria becomes a separate colony.
• 10th July 1851- A public meeting in Hobart, one of the largest ever held in Tasmania, calls for the end to convict transportation.
• 14 July 1851- The aristocrat Sir William Denison, Lieutenant-Governor of Tasmania writes to Earl Grey supporting the continuation of transportation despite fierce opposition by the people.
• 15 July 1851- The aristocrat Charles La Trobe is appointed as the first Lieutenant-Governor of Victoria.

• 2 August 1851- Gold is first discovered in Ballarat, Victoria, leading to the Victorian Gold Rush.
• 31 October 1851- The New South Wales Legislative Council votes unanimously against "Transportation in any form what-so-ever, to any part of Her Majesty's Australian Possessions".
• 4 December 1851- Charles La Trobe forwards a Victorian Legislative Council motion passed unanimously opposing further transportation.
• 15 December 1851- The famous "Forest Creek Monster Meeting" was an organised protest at Forest Creek, Victoria, against the "Miners Licence" by the government of Victoria. It is notable as the largest known mass rally held during the Australian Gold Rush, where between 14,000 and 20,000 miners gathered. The rally was largely successful as the government hastily withdrew its plans to increase the miner's licence fee.
• 4 July 1852- Anti-Chinese riots occur on the goldfields in Victoria.
• 8 January 1853- Victoria Police formally established by Act of Parliament.
• 17 March 1853- St Kilda road robberies by outlaws and bushrangers.
• 6 June 1853- The formation of the Anti-Gold Licence Association.
• 1st August 1853- The famous Bendigo Petition, 30 metres long with over 23,000 signatures requesting reform of the licence fee system that applied to miners on the goldfields, was sent to Governor Charles La Trobe in Melbourne.
• 10 August 1853- A jubilee celebration was held in Hobart to mark the cessation of convict transportation to the colony.
• 15 August 1853- The term "Bunyip Aristocracy" was coined by Daniel Deniehy in a speech attacking the proposal by William Wentworth to create a system of hereditary peerage in Australia.
• 22 June 1854- Governor La Trobe resigns and Governor Hotham, a brutal tyrant, takes up office.

• 6 October 1854- Scottish miner James Scobie was murdered at the Eureka Hotel. Ten days later, on 17 October 1854, at the Eureka Hotel between 1,000 and 10,000 miners gathered to protest that James Bentley, the hotel propietor and prime suspect in Scobie's murder, had been acquitted by a corrupt magistrate. The miners rioted and Bentley and his wife Catherine fled for their lives as the hotel was burnt down by the angry mob. A small contingency of soldiers were unable to supress the riot.

• 22 October 1854- Ballarat Catholics met to protest the treatment of Father Smyth. The next day the arrests of miners McIntyre and Fletcher for the Eureka Hotel riot saw a mass meeting which attracted 4,000 miners. The meeting established a "Diggers Rights Society".
• 1 November 1854- Over 3,000 miners met on Bakery Hill where they were addressed by Thomas Kennedy, Henry Holyoak, George Black, and Henry Ross. The diggers were further angered by the arrest of another seven of their number for the Eureka Hotel Riot.
• 11 November 1854- More than 10,000 miners gathered at Bakery Hill directly opposite to the government encampment, at this meeting, the Ballarat Reform League was created under the chairmanship of Chartist John Basson Humffray. The meeting passed a resolution "that it is the inalienable right of every citizen to have a voice in making the laws he is called on to obey, that taxation without representation is tyranny" The meeting also resolved to secede from the United Kingdom if the situation did not improve.

• 16 November 1854- Governor Hotham ignores the plight of the miners and decides to increase the military presence on the goldfields and summoned reinforcements from Melbourne.
• 28 November 1854- The Ballarat Skirmish occurred when reinforcements arriving from Melbourne were attacked by a group of miners. Several were injured and a drummer boy was killed.
• 29 November 1854- The Eureka Flag was flown for the first time during the Eureka Stockade rebellion in Ballarat. The rebellion was the culmination of the miners licence tax against, to which miners objected stating "No taxation without representation!!" The local rebellion grew out of the Ballarat Reform League. Here more than 12,000 miners burned the hated licences further adding to tensions.
• 30 November 1854- Governor Hotham ordered police troopers to conduct a licence search, eight miners were arrested. This raid prompted a change in leadership of the Ballarat Reform League with people arguing in favour of physical force. A more militant leader, named Peter Lalor was soon elected to the Reform League.

(Painting of Peter Lalor, new leader of the Reform League)

• 1 December 1854- At a meeting on Bakery Hill an oath of allegiance was sworn by Peter Lalor to the affirmation of his fellow demonstrators: "We swear by the Southern Cross to stand truly by each other and fight to defend our rights and liberties."

• 2 December 1854- The Reform Leagues allies were over two hundred Americans, the Independent Californian Rangers, under the leadership of James McGill, arrived about 4:00pm. The Americans were armed with revolvers and Mexican knives and rode on horses. In a fateful decision, McGill decided to take most of the Rangers away from the stockade to intercept and attack rumoured British reinforcements coming from Melbourne. Governor Hotham's spies observed this. That night many of the miners went back to their own tents after the traditional Saturday night carousing, with the assumption that the Queen's military forces would not attack on the Sabbath (Sunday). As a result, only 150 miners remained at the stockade overnight instead of the 1500. Which the spies then reported to Hotham and Rede.
• 3 December 1854- Battle of Eureka: A contingent of 276 police troopers and military personnel under the command of Captain J.W. Thomas approached the Eureka Stockade and a battle ensued. There is no agreement as to which side fired first, but the battle was fierce, brief and terribly one-sided. During the height of the battle the rebel commander Peter Lalor was shot in his left arm, took refuge under some timber and was smuggled out of the stockade and hidden. His arm was later amputated. Early in the battle the Captain Henry Ross (a rebel) was shot dead. Three months after the Eureka Stockade, Peter Lalor wrote, "As the inhuman brutalities practised by the troops are so well known, it is unnecessary for me to repeat them. There were 34 digger casualties, of which 22 died. The unusual proportion of the killed to wounded, is owing to the butchery of the military and troopers after the surrender. Of the soldiers and police at least six were killed including Captain Wise. The one-hundred and fourteen miners left some wounded, were marched off to the Government Camp where they were imprisoned. Martial Law was imposed and all armed resistance collapsed. Thousands of people turned out in Melbourne to condemn the authorities, and 1500 military personnel were called in to calm the situation. Of the approximately 120 diggers detained after the rebellion, thirteen were brought to trial.




• Following the battle, rebel leader, Irishman Peter Lalor, Lalor wrote in a statement to the colonists of Victoria, "There are two things connected with the late outbreak (Eureka) which I deeply regret. The first is, that we should have been forced to take up arms at all; and the second is, that when we were compelled to take the field in our own defence, we were unable (through want of arms, ammunition and a little organisation) to inflict on the real authors of the outbreak the punishment they so richly deserved." Lalor stood for Ballarat in the 1856 elections and was elected unopposed. As he was the Eureka hero his policies were not scrutinised at all before the election. During a speech in the Legislative Council in 1856 he said, "I would ask these gentlemen what they mean by the term 'democracy'. Do they mean Chartism or Republicanism? If so, I never was, I am not now, nor do I ever intend to be a democrat. But if a democrat means opposition to a tyrannical press, a tyrannical people, or a tyrannical government, then I have been, I am still, and will ever remain a democrat."







Possible Main Plot
The plot could be an assassin who survives the failed revolutions in Europe migrates to Australia to escape death. Upon arrival he finds a dictatorial colony booming through a gold rush. The gameplay could begin with the end of the Port Phillip District Wars, as government forces massacre an aboriginal group in Gippsland.
Eventually the protagonist finds several of his assassin friends who also came to Australia to escape persecution. The massive amounts of gold being sent to Britain to pay off its debt, cause the Templars to send several of its own forces into the young colonies to protect their assets.
The protagonist could then infiltrate their base at one of the forts, and discovers the true motive for why the Templars have come out here so far.
Note: This part is actually historical.
The Dieppe Maps are an ancient map that is said to have been created by the Portuguese, many believe it is a map of Australia's Eastern coast and that the Portuguese kept their discovery a secret... But why?

The protagonist steals the maps, here the developers can add their ideas as to how he works out what it leads to, possibly an "apple of Eden".
Throughout the rest of the story the protagonist will battle troopers, fight off bushranger ambushes, explore the cities of Melbourne and Sydney, steal the mystical Geelong Keys from Governor Hotham, join in the Reform Leagues fight against tyranny, and find out where the Dieppe Maps lead to....

Jayden26
11-14-2012, 02:32 AM
Please read the "Possible Main Plot" BEFORE voting, thanks.

TrueAssassin77
11-14-2012, 03:29 AM
I like your idea

Jayden26
11-14-2012, 03:45 AM
Thanks TrueAssassin77!!
Image of the Dieppe Maps.
http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=dieppe+maps+australia&hl=en&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=MrdPrMPNguA9NM:&imgrefurl=http://segniesogni-prova.blogspot.com/2012/04/nicholas-vallard-de-dieppe-atlas-1547.html&docid=VvPrcuEG4D-9uM&imgurl=http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zzQCzyRefbk/T3tNWluNAmI/AAAAAAAAbhk/4jx8n3F-dlc/s1600/6253942438_146d98fb99%2525255B1%2525255D.jpg&w=500&h=339&ei=9QejUNGMH6SwiQes1oDwBQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=125&vpy=60&dur=3796&hovh=185&hovw=273&tx=233&ty=103&sig=110228308544428542056&page=2&tbnh=135&tbnw=221&start=18&ndsp=23&ved=1t:429,r:18,s:0,i:120

Image of the Battle of Eureka.
http://www.gold-net.com.au/archivemagazines/jul99/ballarat3.html

Image of Governor Hotham, main Templar enemy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Hotham

Image of Peter Lalor, leader of the Reform League, they fight for Liberty.
http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=peter+lalor&hl=en&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=sIforiE5MpdKhM:&imgrefurl=http://www.hereticpress.com/Dogstar/History/eureka.html&docid=7pABv8wAVXp3VM&imgurl=http://www.hereticpress.com/Dogstar/History/Bentley/PeterlalorBB.jpg&w=228&h=285&ei=owejUJrMLs6iiAfEp4HYCA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=470&vpy=174&dur=151&hovh=228&hovw=182&tx=108&ty=184&sig=110228308544428542056&page=1&tbnh=150&tbnw=112&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0,i:102

pirate1802
11-14-2012, 03:58 AM
Thanks TrueAssassin77!!
Image of the Dieppe Maps.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zzQCzyRefbk/T3tNWluNAmI/AAAAAAAAbhk/4jx8n3F-dlc/s1600/6253942438_146d98fb99%255B1%255D.jpg

Image of the Battle of Eureka.
http://www.gold-net.com.au/archivemagazines/jul99/images/ballarat3.jpg

Image of Governor Hotham, main Templar enemy.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/Hotham_governor_of_victoria.JPG/220px-Hotham_governor_of_victoria.JPG

Image of Peter Lalor, leader of the Reform League, they fight for Liberty.
http://www.hereticpress.com/Dogstar/History/Bentley/PeterlalorBB.jpg

Fixed it for ya :D

Jayden26
11-14-2012, 04:04 AM
Thanks Pirate1802, the Reform Leagues fight against tyranny as well as the Battle of Eureka wouldn't have a central role in the main storyline but I thought it would create more interest in the overrall game and what Australia was like in that period. I envision most of the main plot would revolve around the Dieppe Maps, and the Geelong Keys.

ihateyou0
11-14-2012, 05:02 AM
Thanks Pirate1802, the Reform Leagues fight against tyranny as well as the Battle of Eureka wouldn't have a central role in the main storyline but I thought it would create more interest in the overrall game and what Australia was like in that period. I envision most of the main plot would revolve around the Dieppe Maps, and the Geelong Keys.

Most templars (freemasons during the time period) went to America not Australia. They also had a much bigger influence on American politics such as George Washington.

Jayden26
11-14-2012, 05:10 AM
Yep you definately did NOT read what I wrote. Did you know that the Gold Rush in Victoria payed off ALL of the British Empires foreign debts? Ultimately paving the way for its success in the latter half of the 1800s. The Templars would have been sent to the colonies to ensure this great asset was preserved, as the Templars were allied with the British.. Not everything is about America you know.

ihateyou0
11-14-2012, 05:25 AM
The Freemasons played NO MAJOR ROLE in the gold rush or any major event in Australian history. So if they made a game in Australia the only enemy would be the British which would be boring which a lot of people complained like when people thought Connor was only going to fight the British in this game.

talon97turbo
11-14-2012, 05:31 AM
I personally would love another AC, but is it possible with the ending of AC3? I personally would LOVE the next to be in the civil war. The updated weaponary, naval iron class, and even the assassination of Abraham Lincoln would be a nice touch in the game. If they pulled he revaluation off than they could pull off the civil war, with the rifles and canons I mean. Another idea I have had for a while would be WW2.. I mean that would be a perfect story line for assassins creed. But the game would have to evolve drastically. And I have a feeling that a LOT of people would disagree with that one. But regardless it would be an amazing story line.

talon97turbo
11-14-2012, 05:40 AM
Regardless I will play any assassins creed game that comes out. They never dissapointed me.

Jayden26
11-14-2012, 05:46 AM
Please stop talking and go back and read my 'Possible Plotline", you are wrong again in this game the British would be neither bad nor good.

Jayden26
11-14-2012, 05:53 AM
I personally would love another AC, but is it possible with the ending of AC3? I personally would LOVE the next to be in the civil war. The updated weaponary, naval iron class, and even the assassination of Abraham Lincoln would be a nice touch in the game. If they pulled he revaluation off than they could pull off the civil war, with the rifles and canons I mean. Another idea I have had for a while would be WW2.. I mean that would be a perfect story line for assassins creed. But the game would have to evolve drastically. And I have a feeling that a LOT of people would disagree with that one. But regardless it would be an amazing story line.


Talon thanks for your input, but how exactly would an assassin's creed set in the civil war work? I mean Conner already found the apple of eden in america so how did a second one get there?

Ree-K421
11-14-2012, 05:58 AM
No that's boring!

Jayden26
11-14-2012, 06:00 AM
No that's boring!


What part of it is "boring" please explain?

talon97turbo
11-14-2012, 06:01 AM
Talon thanks for your input, but how exactly would an assassin's creed set in the civil war work? I mean Conner already found the apple of eden in america so how did a second one get there?

Hmm.. you have a great point.. I just want muskets to stay in the next game. Haha I love muskets

ApexMandalorian
11-14-2012, 06:07 AM
Wouldn't happen, there's already AC3 that's focused on a fight for liberty. Next game, if they continue the forward moving historical trend, will be either Civil War (unlikely) or something in the American Wild West (more likely), or something in another country (like colonial India or something).


Talon thanks for your input, but how exactly would an assassin's creed set in the civil war work? I mean Conner already found the apple of eden in america so how did a second one get there?

No, Connor didn't. George Washington gets his hands on one, which isn't the crystal one Connor was looking at (the one that shattered at the end of the game)

Jayden26
11-14-2012, 06:21 AM
*SIGH* PHUCKIN HELL!!!!
When did I say it was a "fight for liberty"!!!!?????

STOP AND READ WHAT I WROTE!!!

scooper121s
11-14-2012, 09:28 AM
I'm australian, (Blood desent of the irish, jewish, aboriginal) so I wouldn't mind seeing a game set in my home town, but I think the original colinitation of australia is a more intresting, I'd love to either play a briish assassin, or an aborigini, I don't care as long as it is an assassins creed game!

Charles_Phipps
11-14-2012, 09:31 AM
I want the next Assassin's creed to star Connor as a privateer against the Barbary Pirates in his fifties. Maybe also him involved in the Napoleonic Wars.

I'd like to see Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr's duel handled by Connor too.

Maybe also see Connor interact with Thomas Jefferson.

Because, honestly, lets' face it - if there was any man in HISTORY who would be a Templar in Real Life (other than actual members like Robert du Sable) it would be Thomas Jefferson.

Ree-K421
11-14-2012, 11:08 AM
What part of it is "boring" please explain?

Sorry I just realised I blurted that out.

The plot line you've come up with isn't boring, the setting is boring. Australian History is SO boring. I know- I had to do it at school for 6 years. You don't want to go down that path. Besides it would be hard to justify how a descendent of Desmond who really should be of Italian or European descent ended up in Australia BEFORE the 1930s-1940s.

Jayden26
11-14-2012, 11:35 AM
Sorry I just realised I blurted that out.

The plot line you've come up with isn't boring, the setting is boring. Australian History is SO boring. I know- I had to do it at school for 6 years. You don't want to go down that path. Besides it would be hard to justify how a descendent of Desmond who really should be of Italian or European descent ended up in Australia BEFORE the 1930s-1940s.

What's wrong with Australian history? Also who said this had to be an ancestor of Desmond?

LightRey
11-14-2012, 01:40 PM
Most templars (freemasons during the time period) went to America not Australia. They also had a much bigger influence on American politics such as George Washington.
Washington wasn't a Templar and so far I've seen no Freemasons who were also Templars in any game. In fact, ACIII seems to suggest that the Freemasons and the Templars are completely separate orders.

TOMatXL
11-14-2012, 01:46 PM
Yeah right. And Connor would build his empire on Ramsay street!

Jayden26
11-14-2012, 02:28 PM
Yeah right. And Connor would build his empire on Ramsay street!


Conner wouldn't be the assassin in this game, you would know that if you actually read what I wrote, and secondly what is ramsay st.?

LinkAndLoad
11-14-2012, 02:40 PM
I just want to go back in time, to the old civilizations. The Romans, Greeks, Egyptians etc. Maybe Feudal Japan.

Jayden26
11-14-2012, 03:02 PM
I just want to go back in time, to the old civilizations. The Romans, Greeks, Egyptians etc. Maybe Feudal Japan.


What do you have against Australia???

Gianavel
11-14-2012, 03:19 PM
Assassin's Creed games, so far, have been set in temporal locations that have had significant impact on history. Settings like Jerusalem/Middle East during the Crusades, Italy during the Renaissance (Italy was, pretty much, the heart of the Renaissance), and the American Revolution (arguably the birth of the modern democratic movement). I don't really see that with Australia. No offense to Australians, it's a great country and does have some interesting history. Those three settings have had significant impact on the modern world, but I don't really see that with Australia.

pirate1802
11-14-2012, 03:38 PM
You know what? If the AC team decides on Australia next I'd be happy, if not, I'd still be happy. The team has recreated historical locals faithfully till now. So I'm sure if they go to Australia they'd make a great AC game out of that too. Period. :D

machetefight
11-14-2012, 04:24 PM
No. Seriously our country's history is boring. Isn't it obviously AC3 automatically leads into AC3.1 to be set during the French revolution? If it were to be set in Russia, it wouldn't be so bad either

Kaiskune
11-14-2012, 05:14 PM
Aside from hunting Skippy in the outback I cannot see any reason for Austrailian assassins creed aside from taking another dig at the British Empire.

but I think they need to keep in the Napoleonic era a little longer or take a short jump forward. while AC3 was a good game I beleive another game in the musket era would give the devs the time they need to perfect the mass introduction of firearms.

eagleforlife1
11-14-2012, 06:05 PM
I've always felt 19th century Australia has been overlooked in media, particularly gaming, and I have always wanted a game set there. So, yes please.

Liiaam140210
11-14-2012, 06:11 PM
I agree alot with you mate, id love to see a game to put Australia in the spot light for once, but ALOT of people want to see more connor, so given the timeline for the next one I think that has a better posibility then this. But in saying that if theres a fair chance of AC5 if they dont screw up AC4 and its done properly and the fans love it and want to see more, maybe it could tie in somehow within the same timeline/plot

nitres15
11-14-2012, 06:40 PM
i think AC should go back in time, not forward. If they do move forward they΄ll eventually run out of history, not to mention interesting history

scooper121s
11-14-2012, 09:08 PM
Conner wouldn't be the assassin in this game, you would know that if you actually read what I wrote, and secondly what is ramsay st.? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNPpV4r7i80
Crappiest show ever created (Ramsey streets where this god-forsaken australian show is set)
Edit: that isn't censored lol (Before you say that's bad manners mods, watch an episode of neighbours, 2012)

shobhit7777777
11-14-2012, 09:33 PM
Whats that era's architecture like? what were the major cities like?

I will not vote for any location unless I am sure that the setting will have populated, lively and climbable architecture a la Rome/Venice/Istanbul.

I feared the cities would be disappointing in AC3..and guess what.

Assassin_M
11-14-2012, 09:36 PM
Yeah Next time, try not making a thread about your Idea that has this title "Next Assassins Creed will be in -Insert time/city/country Here- "

shobhit7777777
11-14-2012, 09:45 PM
Yeah Next time, try not making a thread about your Idea that has this title "Next Assassins Creed will be in -Insert time/city/country Here- "

Oh and this^

Definitely this

LinkAndLoad
11-14-2012, 11:34 PM
i think AC should go back in time, not forward. If they do move forward they΄ll eventually run out of history, not to mention interesting history

This.

Jayden26
11-15-2012, 01:15 AM
Assassin's Creed games, so far, have been set in temporal locations that have had significant impact on history. Settings like Jerusalem/Middle East during the Crusades, Italy during the Renaissance (Italy was, pretty much, the heart of the Renaissance), and the American Revolution (arguably the birth of the modern democratic movement). I don't really see that with Australia. No offense to Australians, it's a great country and does have some interesting history. Those three settings have had significant impact on the modern world, but I don't really see that with Australia.


But the Australian Gold Rush had a MASSIVE effect on the world, before the gold rush the British Empire was up to its neck in debt and was literally about to collapse, when the gold rush began there was so much that it paid off ALL of the British Empires foreign debts, giving it a prosperous future for the rest of the century and beyond.

Jayden26
11-15-2012, 01:39 AM
Whats that era's architecture like? what were the major cities like?

I will not vote for any location unless I am sure that the setting will have populated, lively and climbable architecture a la Rome/Venice/Istanbul.

I feared the cities would be disappointing in AC3..and guess what.

Melbourne:
http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=melbourne+1850s&start=165&hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=yBRCLy7Gw5lmZM:&imgrefurl=http://www.gallipolilegend.com/melbourne19191932.html&docid=rydMiMUqxxngnM&imgurl=http://www.gallipolilegend.com/images/melb12.jpg&w=500&h=403&ei=UzakUPeONq_0mAWY5ICIAw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=301&vpy=101&dur=1717&hovh=201&hovw=250&tx=168&ty=146&sig=110228308544428542056&page=8&tbnh=141&tbnw=176&ndsp=26&ved=1t:429,r:79,s:100,i:241

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=melbourne+oldest+buildings&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=TwibHVLpczn0xM:&imgrefurl=http://longhorntours.blogspot.com/2012/05/melbournes-iconic-corner.html&docid=5AWfwPGvMMW7rM&imgurl=http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-K_q9n4ltj-s/T6zpcUrNjDI/AAAAAAAAEY8/7C0w3bWybe8/s1600/Melbourne-20120507-00012.jpg&w=1024&h=768&ei=xTakUJGiMOrsmAWbo4CABg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=751&vpy=123&dur=348&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=117&ty=106&sig=110228308544428542056&page=3&tbnh=142&tbnw=189&start=42&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:25,s:20,i:204

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=melbourne+oldest+buildings&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=TE-_8hiFKQzDNM:&imgrefurl=http://www.flickr.com/photos/mystic-venus/2450825713/&docid=UnpAprpHODORqM&imgurl=http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3022/2450825713_bb2e3e8fc0_z.jpg&w=640&h=462&ei=xTakUJGiMOrsmAWbo4CABg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=116&vpy=177&dur=1339&hovh=191&hovw=264&tx=181&ty=127&sig=110228308544428542056&page=3&tbnh=150&tbnw=219&start=42&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:28,s:20,i:213

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http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=melbourne+old+library&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=1Sp-UR5Z8T5FHM:&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Library_of_Victoria&docid=_vwh1j1iE3vwMM&imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/State_Library_of_Victoria,_Melbourne,_Australia_-_20090418.jpg/230px-State_Library_of_Victoria,_Melbourne,_Australia_-_20090418.jpg&w=230&h=162&ei=XTikUJXwLa2ImQWi1YFA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=330&vpy=177&dur=2043&hovh=129&hovw=184&tx=138&ty=69&sig=110228308544428542056&page=1&tbnh=128&tbnw=173&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0,i:69

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nedababe/2589941202/

Jayden26
11-15-2012, 01:53 AM
Whats that era's architecture like? what were the major cities like?

I will not vote for any location unless I am sure that the setting will have populated, lively and climbable architecture a la Rome/Venice/Istanbul.

I feared the cities would be disappointing in AC3..and guess what.

And this is Sydney.

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=sydney+1850s&hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=jiat91XhACN3EM:&imgrefurl=http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/australians/2/4/2&docid=ZdObiGnpH4mJOM&imgurl=http://www.teara.govt.nz/files/a3709atl.jpg&w=500&h=369&ei=iTqkULSCNYPQmAWJ1IDYBg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=657&vpy=151&dur=2852&hovh=193&hovw=261&tx=187&ty=158&sig=110228308544428542056&page=1&tbnh=141&tbnw=183&start=0&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0,i:78

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http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=sydney+1850s&start=144&hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=xFR8eHw1wDkFIM:&imgrefurl=http://www.nationaltrusttas.org.au/aftermac/lewis/p1page2.htm&docid=faZdwtWJU3KnnM&imgurl=http://www.nationaltrusttas.org.au/aftermac/lewis/images/lewis1_image054.jpg&w=521&h=151&ei=ITukUPDfC4XLmgWd64GgBg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=907&vpy=209&dur=2695&hovh=120&hovw=416&tx=221&ty=72&sig=110228308544428542056&page=8&tbnh=89&tbnw=278&ndsp=26&ved=1t:429,r:50,s:100,i:154

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=sydney+st+james+church&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=7GrynZ0iscczEM:&imgrefurl=http://sydneyopen.hht.net.au/building/st-james-church/&docid=7QgTwQVf6jMQpM&imgurl=http://sydneyopen.hht.net.au/media/uploaded_img/large34.jpg&w=766&h=490&ei=rzukULXnO-KNmQXo6ID4CA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=654&vpy=126&dur=3653&hovh=179&hovw=281&tx=177&ty=145&sig=110228308544428542056&page=1&tbnh=149&tbnw=231&start=0&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:18,s:0,i:120

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=sydney+the+rocks&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=WcVicpKqhIwskM:&imgrefurl=http://www.sydneyphotoguide.com/the-rocks/&docid=ZY0sZtdpAZqeGM&imgurl=http://www.sydneyphotoguide.com/photos/the-rocks.jpg&w=720&h=480&ei=5Du***_WOoPomAWwuoGQDg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=314&vpy=231&dur=370&hovh=183&hovw=275&tx=193&ty=113&sig=110228308544428542056&page=2&tbnh=138&tbnw=198&start=12&ndsp=23&ved=1t:429,r:10,s:20,i:186

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=fort+denison&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=fsVP2gsN1efu9M:&imgrefurl=http://www.sydney.com/destinations/sydney/sydney-city/sydney-harbour/attractions/fort-denison&docid=rts2vYanyuHVIM&imgurl=http://getconnected.dnsw.com.au/multimedia/tnsw/o7049.jpg&w=280&h=228&ei=GzykUIqiFqyLmwWCh4HwBA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=542&vpy=192&dur=3532&hovh=182&hovw=224&tx=116&ty=148&sig=110228308544428542056&page=1&tbnh=139&tbnw=174&start=0&ndsp=12&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0,i:99

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=fort+macquarie&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=C12EDCwFnv48qM:&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Macquarie&docid=AUP82oaDLz5VJM&imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Fort_Macquarie_ca.1870_from_Sydney_Streets_and_Bui ldings,_1861-ca.1900_chiefly_by_Kerry_%252526_Co..jpg/300px-Fort_Macquarie_ca.1870_from_Sydney_Streets_and_Bui ldings,_1861-ca.1900_chiefly_by_Kerry_%252526_Co..jpg&w=300&h=257&ei=PDykUOuzH4qbmQWalYGICw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=103&vpy=151&dur=663&hovh=205&hovw=240&tx=143&ty=114&sig=110228308544428542056&page=1&tbnh=152&tbnw=170&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0,i:66

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SergeantClassie
11-15-2012, 02:13 AM
not liking this no offence

Jayden26
11-15-2012, 02:46 AM
not liking this no offence


What don't you like about it specifically, you just can't say you don't like an idea and not give a reason as to why?

ihateyou0
11-15-2012, 03:19 AM
Please stop talking and go back and read my 'Possible Plotline", you are wrong again in this game the British would be neither bad nor good.

I GET THAT.... Is Ubisoft supposed to just abandon the whole Templar thing then?

ihateyou0
11-15-2012, 03:21 AM
i think AC should go back in time, not forward. If they do move forward they΄ll eventually run out of history, not to mention interesting history
Yea I like the time of the first AC but that game was too short.

ihateyou0
11-15-2012, 03:24 AM
Washington wasn't a Templar and so far I've seen no Freemasons who were also Templars in any game. In fact, ACIII seems to suggest that the Freemasons and the Templars are completely separate orders.

If you talked to that chick outside of the animus while as Desmond she said that subject 16 said that George Washington was a Templar, but not during Revolutionary War.

Jayden26
11-15-2012, 04:11 AM
I GET THAT.... Is Ubisoft supposed to just abandon the whole Templar thing then?

No the bad guys in this game WOULD be the Templars, remember the templars and the british are two different people not always on eachothers side.

Assassin_M
11-15-2012, 04:23 AM
If you talked to that chick outside of the animus while as Desmond she said that subject 16 said that George Washington was a Templar, but not during Revolutionary War.
Seeing as you refer to Rebecca as "That Chick outside the Animus" I can safely assume you did not pay attention to the story ? Because the conversation you`re referring to has a continuation, my friend.

Rebecca says that 16 mentioned Washington being a Templar, to which Shaun corrects her by saying that No he said that Washington had an Apple of Eden ONLY, but he was never a Templar

TOMatXL
11-15-2012, 01:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNPpV4r7i80
Crappiest show ever created (Ramsey streets where this god-forsaken australian show is set)
Edit: that isn't censored lol (Before you say that's bad manners mods, watch an episode of neighbours, 2012)

:D
I'm almost certain Mr. Bishop is a templar...

Gianavel
11-15-2012, 01:59 PM
But the Australian Gold Rush had a MASSIVE effect on the world, before the gold rush the British Empire was up to its neck in debt and was literally about to collapse, when the gold rush began there was so much that it paid off ALL of the British Empires foreign debts, giving it a prosperous future for the rest of the century and beyond.

Admittedly, I was only vaguely familiar withthe fact that there was an Australian gold rush, and I can absolutely see how it altered Australia (I'm from California - our gold rush about the same time completely altered our course in regards to statehood and beyond). I've done some Googling on it, though, and I can't seem to find anything that supports your position that your gold rush *saved* the British Empire. Was it good for it? Sure, but so was the spice trade in India, as well as the cheap wool and timber. Do you have any links to share that back your position so I can educate myself?

Also, the Australian equivalent of the "Frontier" would be the Outback - which is primarely open desert. That would just be horribly dull to cross...

ej_the_shadow
11-15-2012, 02:45 PM
If it would work, the only interesting thing would be to hunt Kangaroos...

tarrero
11-15-2012, 02:51 PM
Again?

ej_the_shadow
11-15-2012, 02:57 PM
Again?

I didnt read the replies. Its just my opinion but I would definetely get the game if Ubi decides to do it though

LightRey
11-15-2012, 03:50 PM
Seeing as you refer to Rebecca as "That Chick outside the Animus" I can safely assume you did not pay attention to the story ? Because the conversation you`re referring to has a continuation, my friend.

Rebecca says that 16 mentioned Washington being a Templar, to which Shaun corrects her by saying that No he said that Washington had an Apple of Eden ONLY, but he was never a Templar
Exactly.

scooper121s
11-15-2012, 08:53 PM
:D
I'm almost certain Mr. Bishop is a templar...
What about good ole paul robbinson?

ihateyou0
11-15-2012, 09:02 PM
Seeing as you refer to Rebecca as "That Chick outside the Animus" I can safely assume you did not pay attention to the story ? Because the conversation you`re referring to has a continuation, my friend.

Rebecca says that 16 mentioned Washington being a Templar, to which Shaun corrects her by saying that No he said that Washington had an Apple of Eden ONLY, but he was never a Templar
No I cant remember video game character names and no I didn't hear that.
The question remains how George Washington got the apple so my best guess is that he is a Freemason/Templar in the game. But the Freemasons and Templar may be separate in this game so idk.

shobhit7777777
11-15-2012, 09:10 PM
@OP

I saw the pics...and I vote No. The layout is reminiscent of Boston and NY with the wide streets and the squarish block like plan. Plus I'm not sure if all the buildings were built during the era you mention. Plus how densely populated were the two cities? I want jam packed metropolises full to the brim wit life.....not a setting which has low population because that was "historically accurate"

IDK it's not doing it for me.

Anyway thanks for taking the time to post pics and also making a detailed OP.

I think they should either go for Victorian London or Colonial India....TBH unless the architecture supports it...forget India.

Assassin_M
11-15-2012, 09:42 PM
No I cant remember video game character names and no I didn't hear that.
The question remains how George Washington got the apple so my best guess is that he is a Freemason/Templar in the game. But the Freemasons and Templar may be separate in this game so idk.
Well you should remember details when referring to something to prove a point. Shaun explicitly said that Washington is not a Templar and Freemasons are not Templars either, So Again, No. Washington getting the Apple had nothing to do with him being a Templar/Mason/Anything else..

Ghandi was not aligned to the Assassins nor templars, yet had an Apple. Neither was Savonarola...

You can be a person Unaware of the Assassins and Templars and still get your hands on a Piece of Eden.

im3jia
11-15-2012, 10:08 PM
Found this thread from earlier in the year http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/662397-Do-you-want-an-AC-set-in-Federation-Sydney?highlight=underground+tunnels

Assassin_M
11-15-2012, 10:15 PM
Found this thread from earlier in the year http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/662397-Do-you-want-an-AC-set-in-Federation-Sydney?highlight=underground+tunnels
Persistent I guess

im3jia
11-15-2012, 10:18 PM
I didn't even notice it's from the same poster.

ihateyou0
11-16-2012, 01:27 AM
Well you should remember details when referring to something to prove a point. Shaun explicitly said that Washington is not a Templar and Freemasons are not Templars either, So Again, No. Washington getting the Apple had nothing to do with him being a Templar/Mason/Anything else..

Ghandi was not aligned to the Assassins nor templars, yet had an Apple. Neither was Savonarola...

You can be a person Unaware of the Assassins and Templars and still get your hands on a Piece of Eden.

How do you know Gandhi wasnt aware of them did Shaun tell you? "Washington getting the Apple had nothing to do with him being a Templar" You also cant prove that either.
IF THEY ARE FOLLOWING ACTUAL HISTORY WASHINGTON IS A TEMPLAR is what Im saying. Im not sure if they are or not.

Gianavel
11-16-2012, 01:40 AM
If they're following actual history, Washington was a Freemason - not a Templar.

Captain Kidd had no idea who the Assassins and Templars were, either. All he knew was that there were guys chasing him that carried little red crosses.

Assassin_M
11-16-2012, 01:41 AM
How do you know Gandhi wasnt aware of them did Shaun tell you? "Washington getting the Apple had nothing to do with him being a Templar" You also cant prove that either.
IF THEY ARE FOLLOWING ACTUAL HISTORY WASHINGTON IS A TEMPLAR is what Im saying. Im not sure if they are or not.
No Shaun did not tell me. 16 mentioned it in the Glyphs. and Yes I can. Shaun said he was not a Templar.. How many times do I have to tell you ? The game is BASED on actual History... Washington was a part of the free Masons which, in the Game, has nothing with the Templar Order..


If they're following actual history, Washington was a Freemason - not a Templar.

Captain Kidd had no idea who the Assassins and Templars were, either. All he knew was that there were guys chasing him that carried little red crosses.
That Too and he carried a piece of Eden..

ihateyou0
11-16-2012, 04:53 AM
No Shaun did not tell me. 16 mentioned it in the Glyphs. and Yes I can. Shaun said he was not a Templar.. How many times do I have to tell you ? The game is BASED on actual History... Washington was a part of the free Masons which, in the Game, has nothing with the Templar Order..


That Too and he carried a piece of Eden..

The glyph said specifically that Gandhi didnt know the Assassins or Templars, I didnt play AC2 sorry, only watched the cutscenes on youtube.
"Washington was a part of the free Masons which, in the Game, has nothing with the Templar Order.."
FREEMASONS ARE TEMPLARS IN REAL LIFE NOT THE GAME, so if George Washington isnt a Freemason in the game its not based on actual history. Anyways....this thread is getting off topic.

Assassin_M
11-16-2012, 04:59 AM
The glyph said specifically that Gandhi didnt know the Assassins or Templars, I didnt play AC2 sorry, only watched the cutscenes on youtube.
"Washington was a part of the free Masons which, in the Game, has nothing with the Templar Order.."
FREEMASONS ARE TEMPLARS IN REAL LIFE NOT THE GAME, so if George Washington isnt a Freemason in the game its not based on actual history. Anyways....this thread is getting off topic.
I`m talking about the game. Who the hell brought real life into this ?

Jayden26
11-16-2012, 05:05 AM
@OP

I saw the pics...and I vote No. The layout is reminiscent of Boston and NY with the wide streets and the squarish block like plan. Plus I'm not sure if all the buildings were built during the era you mention. Plus how densely populated were the two cities? I want jam packed metropolises full to the brim wit life.....not a setting which has low population because that was "historically accurate"

IDK it's not doing it for me.

Anyway thanks for taking the time to post pics and also making a detailed OP.

I think they should either go for Victorian London or Colonial India....TBH unless the architecture supports it...forget India.


Thanks for everyones response, I respect your opinion and if you don't like it then thats okay just thought I would put an idea out there, seems like most people don't like it though judging by the poll :D
The buildings I posted were already built during the era I mentioned, however like I said in the intro the architecture at the time was nowhere near as extravagent and beautiful as during the Federation Era.

Jayden26
11-16-2012, 05:08 AM
Persistent I guess


That thread is from a different era.

Jayden26
11-16-2012, 05:15 AM
Admittedly, I was only vaguely familiar withthe fact that there was an Australian gold rush, and I can absolutely see how it altered Australia (I'm from California - our gold rush about the same time completely altered our course in regards to statehood and beyond). I've done some Googling on it, though, and I can't seem to find anything that supports your position that your gold rush *saved* the British Empire. Was it good for it? Sure, but so was the spice trade in India, as well as the cheap wool and timber. Do you have any links to share that back your position so I can educate myself?

Also, the Australian equivalent of the "Frontier" would be the Outback - which is primarely open desert. That would just be horribly dull to cross...


You do realise that Australia isn't all desert right? In fact in the area that I'm talking about there could be snow maps to explore as well.

Gianavel
11-16-2012, 05:42 AM
You do realise that Australia isn't all desert right? In fact in the area that I'm talking about there could be snow maps to explore as well.

Yeah, I've seen "The Man from Snowy River" (that's a joke, BTW). Y'all may not view it this way down there, but if you ask anywone else in the world what they think the Australian frontier would be, they'd say it was the Outback - which IS primarily desert. I know that there's oasises, and I know that there's plenty of forests, and swamps, and the like. But people are going to expect the Outback. Imagine running across an area the size of the Frontier in AC3, only instead of trees and mountains and such, it's just flat desert with occasional outcropings of rock. Folks would want even the ill behaved horses of AC3...

Honestly, between this thread and that other one, it's obvious to me that you're just desperate for a game set in Australia, and you're attempting to shoehorn that idea into the AC franchise. Rather than continuing to try to do that, why not research how to submit game proposals? From your posts, I can tell that you know the possible settings well enough. Why not take that knowledge, come up with a new IP, and start pitching it to companies like Ubisoft? I'd be more than willing to play a video game reboot of Crocodile Dundee (that was a joke, too - but I still want credit if you use it).

Jayden26
11-16-2012, 06:11 AM
Yeah, I've seen "The Man from Snowy River" (that's a joke, BTW). Y'all may not view it this way down there, but if you ask anywone else in the world what they think the Australian frontier would be, they'd say it was the Outback - which IS primarily desert. I know that there's oasises, and I know that there's plenty of forests, and swamps, and the like. But people are going to expect the Outback. Imagine running across an area the size of the Frontier in AC3, only instead of trees and mountains and such, it's just flat desert with occasional outcropings of rock. Folks would want even the ill behaved horses of AC3...

Honestly, between this thread and that other one, it's obvious to me that you're just desperate for a game set in Australia, and you're attempting to shoehorn that idea into the AC franchise. Rather than continuing to try to do that, why not research how to submit game proposals? From your posts, I can tell that you know the possible settings well enough. Why not take that knowledge, come up with a new IP, and start pitching it to companies like Ubisoft? I'd be more than willing to play a video game reboot of Crocodile Dundee (that was a joke, too - but I still want credit if you use it).

The stereotype about Australia being all desert is completely untrue, Australia is a continent which is MOSTLY desert yes, but also has every other climate you can think of from tropical jungles as thick as the amazon, to freezing cold snow fields of the Victorian/Tasmanian highlands. And in reality most of the "outback" is very similiar in climate to the mediteranean, its only in the far west of the continent that you get really hot desert.

You are right about that though, I would like to see a game set here since all of the games are either set in America or the UK/Europe. Actually there has never been a game set in this country. Thanks for the advice although I have no idea how to submit game proposals to companies like Ubisoft I looked at their contact details and everything but I can't find much :( Besides I doubt they would even consider Australia for a game setting, the poll says it all really, thanks though mate!!

shobhit7777777
11-16-2012, 08:06 AM
Thanks for everyones response, I respect your opinion and if you don't like it then thats okay just thought I would put an idea out there, seems like most people don't like it though judging by the poll :D
The buildings I posted were already built during the era I mentioned, however like I said in the intro the architecture at the time was nowhere near as extravagent and beautiful as during the Federation Era.

The Federation era you say...tell me more and I may be inclined to vote YES

I really enjoy social stealth and urban free running in the AC games and this experience is intensified if the city I'm running around in is a vibrant, beautiful and densely populated one.

doogsy91
11-16-2012, 09:17 AM
No thank you, from Australia.;)

Australia, I'm afraid, just wouldn't make a good AC setting. I believe this has been discussed on here before.

Jayden26
11-16-2012, 09:38 AM
The Federation era you say...tell me more and I may be inclined to vote YES

I really enjoy social stealth and urban free running in the AC games and this experience is intensified if the city I'm running around in is a vibrant, beautiful and densely populated one.

I don't see the Federation Era to be more "exciting" to be honest, but I suppose it could incorporate the original plot I had with the Dieppe maps and change the era. Anyway the Federation Era occurred from 1890 - 1901 and was the time when the seperate colonies of Australia united to form a single nation, the era is characterised by achitecture that was unique to Australia at the time. Also if you want to get a insight as to how big and densely populated Australia's cities were at the time then you would be interested to know that at this time the second largest city in the British Empire was Melbourne, the only city larger than it was London.

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=sydney+victorian+buildings&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=ZsJupE5MGelewM:&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Queen_Victoria_outside_the_Queen_Victoria_Bui lding_in_Sydney_2011.jpg&docid=FKjSOvRPLzkc5M&imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Queen_Victoria_outside_the_Queen_Victoria_Building _in_Sydney_2011.jpg&w=4000&h=3000&ei=h_WlUIrlC-ayiQeS9oHgCQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=97&vpy=197&dur=3443&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=190&ty=169&sig=110228308544428542056&page=2&tbnh=143&tbnw=177&start=19&ndsp=27&ved=1t:429,r:19,s:0,i:123

http://www.flickr.com/photos/deanmelbourne/281960235/

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/deanmelbourne/760568958/

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http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=melbourne+government+house&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=7zyH9h0XRywz8M:&imgrefurl=http://meleitaly.wordpress.com/2012/09/12/italian-history-and-culture/&docid=n6TYzELUaWRt2M&imgurl=http://meleitaly.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/government-house.jpg&w=400&h=267&ei=9_qlUOb_D8XriAfavoCQCg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=490&vpy=230&dur=4443&hovh=183&hovw=275&tx=177&ty=160&sig=110228308544428542056&page=1&tbnh=134&tbnw=200&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:0,i:90

And finally this painting pretty much represents the height of the Federation Era.
http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=1901+federation+australia+the+big+picture&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=EQH_63NlkSINrM:&imgrefurl=http://www.walkingmelbourne.com/forum/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D3%26t%3D364%26start%3D10&docid=MsEQft_43b8h-M&imgurl=http://www.thecollectormm.com.au/private/FederationOpen.jpg&w=800&h=442&ei=TfulUIGbCciaiQfzn4HIBQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=524&vpy=247&dur=1315&hovh=167&hovw=302&tx=124&ty=131&sig=110228308544428542056&page=1&tbnh=144&tbnw=234&start=0&ndsp=19&ved=1t:429,r:9,s:0,i:93

Jayden26
11-16-2012, 09:41 AM
No thank you, from Australia.;)

Australia, I'm afraid, just wouldn't make a good AC setting. I believe this has been discussed on here before.

Yes it would make a good AC setting just not where you're from.

scooper121s
11-16-2012, 10:18 AM
Yes it would make a good AC setting just not where you're from.
*sigh* this is going to go into nother tit for tat argument

TOMatXL
11-16-2012, 12:53 PM
What about good ole paul robbinson?

Lol yes but he's the one everybody's expecting to be one. That would make him die early in the game ;-)

lothario-da-be
11-16-2012, 01:37 PM
I don't see the Federation Era to be more "exciting" to be honest, but I suppose it could incorporate the original plot I had with the Dieppe maps and change the era. Anyway the Federation Era occurred from 1890 - 1901 and was the time when the seperate colonies of Australia united to form a single nation, the era is characterised by achitecture that was unique to Australia at the time. Also if you want to get a insight as to how big and densely populated Australia's cities were at the time then you would be interested to know that at this time the second largest city in the British Empire was Melbourne, the only city larger than it was London.

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=sydney+victorian+buildings&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=ZsJupE5MGelewM:&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Queen_Victoria_outside_the_Queen_Victoria_Bui lding_in_Sydney_2011.jpg&docid=FKjSOvRPLzkc5M&imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Queen_Victoria_outside_the_Queen_Victoria_Building _in_Sydney_2011.jpg&w=4000&h=3000&ei=h_WlUIrlC-ayiQeS9oHgCQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=97&vpy=197&dur=3443&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=190&ty=169&sig=110228308544428542056&page=2&tbnh=143&tbnw=177&start=19&ndsp=27&ved=1t:429,r:19,s:0,i:123

http://www.flickr.com/photos/deanmelbourne/281960235/

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=australia+beautiful+heritage+buildings&hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=smY1Nz7Y1cRtTM:&imgrefurl=http://www.theroadtoanywhere.com/photo-of-the-week-historic-buildings-at-the-rocks-in-sydney-australia/&docid=VZRcf1G9YPI5pM&imgurl=http://www.theroadtoanywhere.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/heritage-buildings-the-rocks-sydney.jpg&w=1000&h=667&ei=M_OlUMvSNYWZiAfzroHQDw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=108&vpy=159&dur=3138&hovh=183&hovw=275&tx=188&ty=148&sig=110228308544428542056&page=2&tbnh=142&tbnw=215&start=12&ndsp=23&ved=1t:429,r:17,s:0,i:120


http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=australia+beautiful+heritage+buildings&start=358&hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=Un8PCyJTrFPSdM:&imgrefurl=http://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Attraction_Review-g255068-d591756-Reviews-Customs_House-Brisbane_Queensland.html&docid=RM85yjnmuhf_9M&imgurl=http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/02/61/74/22/a-beautiful-day-at-customs.jpg&w=550&h=368&ei=y_OlUOCJKuuiigfR_YD4BA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=732&vpy=196&dur=2129&hovh=184&hovw=275&tx=211&ty=149&sig=110228308544428542056&page=17&tbnh=154&tbnw=234&ndsp=24&ved=1t:429,r:61,s:300,i:187

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=brisbane+beautiful+church&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=6AE7yYl3hWve1M:&imgrefurl=http://www.queenslandholidays.com.au/destinations/brisbane/things-to-see-and-do/spa-and-wellness.cfm&docid=o8yQKysCaZBwdM&imgurl=http://atdw.tq.com.au/multimedia/ATDW_Landscape__TQ_Brisbane__Albert_Street_Uniting _Church_4.jpg&w=280&h=228&ei=B_SlUIG-EOiTiQe4qIGoCQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=680&vpy=138&dur=2280&hovh=182&hovw=224&tx=183&ty=162&sig=110228308544428542056&page=4&tbnh=154&tbnw=186&start=60&ndsp=25&ved=1t:429,r:82,s:0,i:315

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=brisbane+beautiful+cathedral&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=llIZV85JEwBTTM:&imgrefurl=http://www.theage.com.au/national/shrine-to-timeless-construction-complete-after-100-years-20081111-5mkf.html&docid=5fXVoxpFnHm3aM&imgurl=http://images.theage.com.au/2008/11/11/262593/svCATHEDRAL-420x0.jpg&w=420&h=312&ei=T_SlUPyrDciwiQflyYCoAQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=395&vpy=27&dur=1241&hovh=193&hovw=261&tx=218&ty=185&sig=110228308544428542056&page=1&tbnh=141&tbnw=185&start=0&ndsp=14&ved=1t:429,r:9,s:0,i:93

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=sydney+beautiful+cathedral&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=tkaL5MGsB7b6uM:&imgrefurl=http://www.photosofchurches.com/australia-sydney.htm&docid=0aoSYc3ja2dkTM&imgurl=http://www.photosofchurches.com/images/Australia/Australia,%2520Sydney,%2520St%2520Andrews%2520Cath edral.jpg&w=800&h=503&ei=d_SlUIDuEumtiQfZ74C4Dg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=956&vpy=216&dur=3961&hovh=178&hovw=283&tx=188&ty=119&sig=110228308544428542056&page=2&tbnh=146&tbnw=231&start=13&ndsp=27&ved=1t:429,r:38,s:0,i:183

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=sydney+beautiful+cathedral&start=197&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=4m9rT9WLuErl4M:&imgrefurl=http://bos18.com/agnsw&docid=REMLjXHrnOWjwM&imgurl=http://bos18.com/file/assets/422/content_image_full_jpg.jpg&w=600&h=357&ei=xvSlULqYBMijiAex0YCYDQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=121&vpy=2&dur=3493&hovh=173&hovw=291&tx=248&ty=138&sig=110228308544428542056&page=9&tbnh=141&tbnw=256&ndsp=25&ved=1t:429,r:10,s:200,i:34

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=sydney+town+hall&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=in8gqmaH044e3M:&imgrefurl=http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D239942%26page%3D4&docid=YP5k48x1FzLeWM&imgurl=http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3403/3259613911_458eea1224_o.jpg&w=1000&h=800&ei=BPWlUKm7F6KCiQeHz4GoBA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=102&vpy=71&dur=403&hovh=201&hovw=251&tx=133&ty=127&sig=110228308544428542056&page=4&tbnh=145&tbnw=179&start=63&ndsp=26&ved=1t:429,r:63,s:0,i:298

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=sydney+victorian+buildings&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=HmkPKsDM99cnWM:&imgrefurl=http://www.sydneyrocks.org/the-queen-victoria-building/&docid=zCB_wmqpkL5I9M&imgurl=http://www.sydneyrocks.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/queen-victoria-building-sydney-ausw119.jpg&w=500&h=333&ei=h_WlUIrlC-ayiQeS9oHgCQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=386&vpy=230&dur=2750&hovh=183&hovw=275&tx=216&ty=139&sig=110228308544428542056&page=1&tbnh=137&tbnw=196&start=0&ndsp=19&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:0,i:90

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=sydney+victorian+buildings&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=q6AvCBCwgEUVXM:&imgrefurl=http://goaustralia.about.com/cs/photos/l/blpicqvb1.htm&docid=UM7qdwfFb_HTjM&imgurl=http://0.tqn.com/d/goaustralia/1/0/C/qvb1.jpg&w=400&h=250&ei=h_WlUIrlC-ayiQeS9oHgCQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=1039&vpy=157&dur=793&hovh=177&hovw=284&tx=231&ty=104&sig=110228308544428542056&page=1&tbnh=136&tbnw=222&start=0&ndsp=19&ved=1t:429,r:5,s:0,i:81

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=sydney+victorian+buildings+dome&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=MXhNu5sRdeGTMM:&imgrefurl=http://sydney-city.blogspot.com/2012/10/balmain-public-buildings.html&docid=U8tZGwrmx6DGlM&imgurl=http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tpJ0eWjO3bE/UHGArBrxomI/AAAAAAAALz8/a3yjiCxP6GI/s1600/Balmain%2Bpost%2Boffice%2Bcourt%2Bhouse.JPG&w=1600&h=1067&ei=IPalUIaxEc-yiQf6vYHgCg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=430&vpy=196&dur=4308&hovh=183&hovw=275&tx=226&ty=141&sig=110228308544428542056&page=3&tbnh=132&tbnw=202&start=44&ndsp=25&ved=1t:429,r:58,s:0,i:243
http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=sydney+victorian+buildings+dome&start=378&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=rlfJk-UCHEafgM:&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melbourne&docid=ZTOrAmjHMaqWXM&itg=1&imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/Federal_Coffee_Palace_Melbourne.jpg/220px-Federal_Coffee_Palace_Melbourne.jpg&w=220&h=263&ei=nPalUJvBOIyXiQeTl4DADQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=645&vpy=18&dur=1096&hovh=210&hovw=176&tx=136&ty=128&sig=110228308544428542056&page=17&tbnh=143&tbnw=117&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:88,s:300,i:268

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=sydney+clock+tower&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=FbwdtRNxSdhToM:&imgrefurl=http://sydney.edu.au/senate/quad_features_of_interest_on_top.shtml&docid=gw4EqgDbEs-UsM&imgurl=http://sydney.edu.au/senate/images/top/CT_turrets_flag.JPG&w=3264&h=2448&ei=y_alUKq9EaGhigeZ-IDwBA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=292&vpy=219&dur=9301&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=222&ty=153&sig=110228308544428542056&page=4&tbnh=143&tbnw=181&start=67&ndsp=29&ved=1t:429,r:75,s:0,i:294

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=melbourne+town+hall&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=Dzae01iF6jMiUM:&imgrefurl=http://www.royalarcade.com.au/GalleryPages/SouthMelbTH.html&docid=VQCy43Xr_iFtKM&imgurl=http://www.royalarcade.com.au/Pictures/South_melbourne_town_hall.jpg&w=800&h=600&ei=i_elUOTEOeiaiQe66YBQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=250&vpy=187&dur=3174&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=203&ty=123&sig=110228308544428542056&page=1&tbnh=141&tbnw=176&start=0&ndsp=14&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0,i:109

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=melbourne+town+hall&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=qyUKp1bA1QMjQM:&imgrefurl=http://www.au.timeout.com/melbourne/museums/venues/238/melbourne-town-hall&docid=OEJwTcKOCjKBsM&imgurl=http://media.au.timeout.com/contentFiles/image/venues/museum/melbourne-town-hall-482x298.jpg&w=482&h=298&ei=i_elUOTEOeiaiQe66YBQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=904&vpy=238&dur=4249&hovh=176&hovw=286&tx=221&ty=155&sig=110228308544428542056&page=1&tbnh=146&tbnw=227&start=0&ndsp=14&ved=1t:429,r:12,s:0,i:142

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=melbourne+exhibition+building&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=J0hnKOBYs1gSYM:&imgrefurl=http://www.clickaustralia.info/1139/winter-festival-in-melbourne/&docid=8aAjKQYViuhfdM&imgurl=http://www.clickaustralia.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/800pxroyalexhibitionbuildingtu.jpg&w=800&h=533&ei=UvilUPOeLIufiAfQjYGYDA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=1048&vpy=156&dur=1585&hovh=183&hovw=275&tx=221&ty=143&sig=110228308544428542056&page=1&tbnh=141&tbnw=201&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:5,s:0,i:81

http://www.flickr.com/photos/deanmelbourne/760568958/

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=melbourne+treasury+building&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=36V8c4Q0YgBE4M:&imgrefurl=http://news.domain.com.au/domain/real-estate-news/treasures-of-a-teenage-genius-20120203-1qw2t.html&docid=sk0HcdsZDKJjhM&imgurl=http://images-2.domain.com.au/2012/02/03/2934615/old_treasury_building_729-420x0.jpg&w=420&h=276&ei=-vilUOqBHMyViAfY0YDgAQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=694&vpy=183&dur=2917&hovh=182&hovw=277&tx=249&ty=136&sig=110228308544428542056&page=2&tbnh=133&tbnw=198&start=18&ndsp=24&ved=1t:429,r:21,s:0,i:132

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=melbourne+hotel+windsor&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=U6uHEUILAhKVoM:&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hotel_Windsor.jpg&docid=aF4B8o9djyRo1M&imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/36/Hotel_Windsor.jpg&w=285&h=200&ei=S_mlUNuKCOiXiQfR5YGgDw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=889&vpy=134&dur=138&hovh=160&hovw=228&tx=74&ty=96&sig=110228308544428542056&page=2&tbnh=140&tbnw=198&start=12&ndsp=24&ved=1t:429,r:16,s:0,i:114

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=sydney+gothic&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=8xVYQTsh3nlPDM:&imgrefurl=http://www.flickr.com/photos/47249110%40N03/6539863245/&docid=NJBZvExPA-UjhM&itg=1&imgurl=http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7174/6539863245_78a9ca2d32_z.jpg&w=640&h=448&ei=kPmlUP6EOeqiiAe2j4CQCQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=453&vpy=139&dur=1286&hovh=188&hovw=268&tx=192&ty=132&sig=110228308544428542056&page=2&tbnh=134&tbnw=187&start=20&ndsp=25&ved=1t:429,r:34,s:0,i:171

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=brisbane+treasury+building&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=OL6cqmMjWoCctM:&imgrefurl=http://www.queensland.aussietrueblue.com/brisbane-city-centre.php&docid=TD1zxIlfqOsfTM&imgurl=http://www.queensland.aussietrueblue.com/brisbane-treasury-building.jpg&w=639&h=426&ei=K_qlUIm_EeijiAed_4DAAg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=107&vpy=152&dur=3870&hovh=183&hovw=275&tx=186&ty=99&sig=110228308544428542056&page=1&tbnh=133&tbnw=213&start=0&ndsp=19&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0,i:66

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=brisbane+parliament+house&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=pNXfGRXZkkv9XM:&imgrefurl=http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament_House_(Brisbane)&docid=b1-naoIb5VGufM&imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/QueenslandBuilding0005.jpg/300px-QueenslandBuilding0005.jpg&w=300&h=192&ei=SPqlUKuDE4O6iQf7p4DADg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=734&vpy=260&dur=350&hovh=153&hovw=240&tx=160&ty=110&sig=110228308544428542056&page=1&tbnh=142&tbnw=210&start=0&ndsp=17&ved=1t:429,r:14,s:0,i:108
http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=parliament+house+melbourne&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=QYt6UdoTMQvRwM:&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Victoria_Parliament_House_Melbourne.jpg&docid=w49JZ9qYoT_wTM&imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Victoria_Parliament_House_Melbourne.jpg&w=2288&h=1712&ei=1_qlUNeLDqGgigef-YHQBw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=502&vpy=188&dur=497&hovh=194&hovw=260&tx=136&ty=121&sig=110228308544428542056&page=1&tbnh=144&tbnw=185&start=0&ndsp=12&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0,i:112

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=melbourne+government+house&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=7zyH9h0XRywz8M:&imgrefurl=http://meleitaly.wordpress.com/2012/09/12/italian-history-and-culture/&docid=n6TYzELUaWRt2M&imgurl=http://meleitaly.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/government-house.jpg&w=400&h=267&ei=9_qlUOb_D8XriAfavoCQCg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=490&vpy=230&dur=4443&hovh=183&hovw=275&tx=177&ty=160&sig=110228308544428542056&page=1&tbnh=134&tbnw=200&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:0,i:90

And finally this painting pretty much represents the height of the Federation Era.
http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=1901+federation+australia+the+big+picture&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=527&tbm=isch&tbnid=EQH_63NlkSINrM:&imgrefurl=http://www.walkingmelbourne.com/forum/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D3%26t%3D364%26start%3D10&docid=MsEQft_43b8h-M&imgurl=http://www.thecollectormm.com.au/private/FederationOpen.jpg&w=800&h=442&ei=TfulUIGbCciaiQfzn4HIBQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=524&vpy=247&dur=1315&hovh=167&hovw=302&tx=124&ty=131&sig=110228308544428542056&page=1&tbnh=144&tbnw=234&start=0&ndsp=19&ved=1t:429,r:9,s:0,i:93
Those buildings convinced me, I'am ready for an ac in Australia.

ProdiGurl
11-16-2012, 02:46 PM
I've only read your OP & saw the images posted (& thanks for helping w/ that Pirate), I think you have some good content idea, my main issue is only that it might seem too similar in time frame and aesthetics to AC3. Some of the fan base is having problems with the setting & I have my questions on making anything too similar for now [outside a possible sequel w/ Connor].
I'm thinking they'll need to go alot further back into time and somewhere more exotic at least for now after this release.

MRNMRSPACER
11-16-2012, 02:46 PM
i like it actually

machetefight
11-16-2012, 03:59 PM
But the Australian Gold Rush had a MASSIVE effect on the world, before the gold rush the British Empire was up to its neck in debt and was literally about to collapse, when the gold rush began there was so much that it paid off ALL of the British Empires foreign debts, giving it a prosperous future for the rest of the century and beyond.Yeah but it's just a gold rush. IMO that's boring and here are a lot more interesting locations and events in history that is better than australa. I'd rather have a Japan-related AC game since there was that mention of the lost/mythical sunken city (I can't reemerge the name) that we never ever touched on again.

I mean, why do AC australa when you can do AC NZ? NZ is a lot more beautiful landscape wise.

ihateyou0
11-16-2012, 07:47 PM
I`m talking about the game. Who the hell brought real life into this ?
The game being based on history.

scooper121s
11-17-2012, 12:54 AM
Lol yes but he's the one everybody's expecting to be one. That would make him die early in the game ;-)
It would be a good twist if he turned out to be an assassin