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DeadpoolFTW
11-12-2012, 03:14 AM
Alright, I am a patient gentleman, but I swear to God, THIS **** PUBLIC EXECUTION 100 SYNC IS ABOUT TO MAKE ME JUMP OUTTA **** WINDOW.

HOW? How am I to do this? I get pushed? FAILED. Guy takes to long to make his attack? FAILED. Guard gets pushed? FAILED. Connor takes to long to pick up a rifle due to the godawful targeting system? FAILED. Hickey doesn't stutter on the first step to Washington? FAILED. I do any kill animation other than the kick against a wall? FAILED. Connor doesn't start sprinting even though I'm holding RT as soon as I get control? FAILED. A civilian intercepts a bullet? FAILED. A civilian interrupts a kill animation? FAILED. Targeting system screws you over and targets a minuteman instead of Hickey? FAILED. Connor doesn't get out his hatchet at the start, despite pressing X? FAILED.

ALL OF THIS HAS HAPPENED TO ME. I'm sure I got some other problem, but they're so numerous I lost count. Dammit Ubisoft, if I wanted to get screwed over by odds that surpass me finding love someday, I'd go to a **** casino, not play your game. Did you even playtest this at all? I mean, GOD****.

*ahem* Ragepost aside, are there any tips, ANY TIPS AT ALL, for this GODFORSAKEN DISGRACE TO THE AC SERIES THAT IS CONNOR'S PUBLIC EXECUTION?

Elegana
11-12-2012, 04:02 AM
Have you tried to do a running assassin? I heard people managed to get 100 sync by tackling Hickey, disposing of the militiamen, re-tackling Hickey to get rid of any other militiamen, and then re-tackle Hickey once more and kill him.

Blind2Society
11-12-2012, 04:04 AM
As soon as you get control look a bit to the left and you will see an enemy fighting a guard. Running assassinate him. Continue straight and you will see another. It's basically just running while holding the attack button. You have to target the two enemies that are already fighting a patriot or it won't work.

CodeWarrior-SDK
11-12-2012, 05:16 AM
Is this the mission of Hickey trying to kill Washington? If so, I don't know if this will help you but as soon as he kills the first guard tackle him to the ground and keep doing it until he eventually starts to attack you. Then you can kill the militia while blocking his attacks and kill him. I tackled him and then accidentally pushed the guard on the ground and the guard ran to help the assassins leaving Hickey to attack me instead. It took me about 10-20 tries. I'm guessing that I came up lucky?

blacklimoband
11-12-2012, 08:22 AM
There's some really good vids on Youtube (sorry, can't remember who posted them) that demo how to get 100% on all missions... so far I've given up on and looked up 4 or 5 missions. Some of these 100% constraints are **** annoying at times (yeah, I'm looking at you, combination of "don't be detected", "don't kill any guards" and time limit....).

Death_Angel733
11-12-2012, 11:44 AM
Sequence 8 - Memory 3: Public Execution

Constraints:
Washington's Bodyguards must survive
Kill enemy militia- 2/2
Completed all constraints in one playthrough

This one is actually difficult, fortunately I found a way to distract Hickey before he can kill a Bodyguard. Also "Washington's Bodyguards must survive" means that there should be one bodyguard left, don't panic when he kills the 1st guard. I don't know why they use the plural noun.

Don't attempt to Running Assassinate anyone, just focus on Hickey. Keep chasing him until you're close enough BUT DO NOT KILL HIM, just shove/run/jump into him so he will be forced to fight you. You should have plenty of time to kill even all of the militia now. Be careful not to counter-kill Hickey before killing 2 militias. Just throw him or disarm him. Once you done the requirement, you can kill Hickey. BTW, he fights like a Regular/ Seeker, so he's not that difficult to kill.

jamgamerforever
11-12-2012, 12:44 PM
It took me about 10 attempts but I managed it. Follow the left path and there are two guards you can run assassinate. Still, you have to be perfect. Run into someone and you'll have to restart.

twenty_glyphs
11-12-2012, 05:41 PM
Sequence 8 of AC3 is probably the worst chapter of a video game I've ever played. Just when the story starts to pick up a tiny bit, and you meet someone from Washington's spy ring and know you're going to New York, the game locks you in this frustrating path straight through the entire sequence. When I first got to New York, all I wanted to do was explore. But no, the game makes me get on a horse and follow this guy I just met. I thought surely this little segment will just end with me in front of an important landmark and then set me free to explore. Nope, then the game trudged through horrible mission design after horrible mission design until I had the pleasure of experiencing the worst chase sequence in any video game I've ever played. And what was my reward? Being stripped of all my weapons so the lead character could have a few conversations in jail and play a board game! I'll tell you what, there's nothing more exciting to do in the last half of a game than to lose every toy and ability you've accumulated while you go through a slow story segment that tries and fails to explain what the bad guys are doing. Walking slowly through a prison without the ability to even run was just what the story needed to really get going.

Then I got to the execution, and I thought this is kind of cool, we're about to really meet Washington and finally get this party started. My friends helped me escape, and I'm starting to get a little excited. What was my reward? Playing a slow-motion scene running down a street with barely any control of the action going on. Holy crap, what idiot thought this was dramatic, let alone fun? So now I'm thinking, at least that's over, now we can meet Washington, learn something important and get to explore New York. Nope, sorry, Washington left in a hurry. And no exploring New York right now, we're going to teleport you back to the Frontier so you can go talk to Washington in Valley Forge and act like you've known the guy for years.

Contrast that to the same point in AC2 when you left Florence for Venice. I believe you have one linear sequence in the mountains with Leonardo and the wagon chase, which wasn't great but was 10 times better than anything from Sequence 8 of AC3. Then I got to Forli, but wasn't forced along any path. There were only a couple of missions there until I could get to Venice, but I chose to explore for a while before moving on with the story. Then I got a ship to Venice, and the game pulled me out to play as Desmond. Even though that was forced on me, it was a lot more fun and interesting than Sequence 8 of AC3. To top it off, you got to play a nice little sequence as Alta´r and really connect back to the first game. So then the game drops you into Venice, but doesn't force you to interact with Leonardo right away, so you could explore a little bit if you wanted. Even the Leonardo mission wasn't very restricting, and once it was over I was free to explore the unlocked district of Venice as I pleased. I'll always remember the fun and novelty of getting to explore Venice when it first opened up in AC2. Freedom in video games is nice.

RyokuMC
11-12-2012, 09:11 PM
I cant explain well but I will try:

Run and Tackle Hickie (B on Xbox or O on PS3) > Run and Kill some guard > Go back and Tackle Hickie again > Run and kill some other guard > Go back and kill Hickie

I did it in the first try, its easy

cheezman3
11-13-2012, 01:54 AM
Have you tried to do a running assassin? I heard people managed to get 100 sync by tackling Hickey, disposing of the militiamen, re-tackling Hickey to get rid of any other militiamen, and then re-tackle Hickey once more and kill him.

this is exactly what I did.

Blind2Society
11-13-2012, 03:49 AM
Tackling Hickey is unnecessary. You simply have to running-assassinate the correct enemies (the two that are already fighting patriots) on the way to Hickey.

blacklimoband
11-13-2012, 04:07 AM
Tackling Hickey is unnecessary. You simply have to running-assassinate the correct enemies (the two that are already fighting patriots) on the way to Hickey.

^ This

Although it took me a couple of tries to do it right, you have to be precise, otherwise you end up in open conflict with a mercenary or get slowed down and fail the bodyguard constraint. Was a bit tricky but got there after 3 or 4 goes.

SillySaxon
01-21-2013, 08:02 AM
A running assassinate would be nice, but I keep tripping on these moronic headless chicken civilians and can't do the assassinate, or worse, the civilians bump the bad guys and I can't assassinate them. Worse yet, it takes SOOOO LONG to do anything that hickey kills the guards.
This is the worst level I have ever played. It's far worse than that sequence 7 garbage where you have to remain undetected by x-ray vision redcoats on a boat.
Also, I've NEVER managed to make hickey engage in open combat, he just keeps running to kill the bodyguards or I accidentally assassinate him.
Hate HATE HATE

Kraschman2010
01-22-2013, 04:05 AM
Sequence 8 - Memory 3: Public Execution

Constraints:
Washington's Bodyguards must survive
Kill enemy militia- 2/2
Completed all constraints in one playthrough

This one is actually difficult, fortunately I found a way to distract Hickey before he can kill a Bodyguard. Also "Washington's Bodyguards must survive" means that there should be one bodyguard left, don't panic when he kills the 1st guard. I don't know why they use the plural noun.

Don't attempt to Running Assassinate anyone, just focus on Hickey. Keep chasing him until you're close enough BUT DO NOT KILL HIM, just shove/run/jump into him so he will be forced to fight you. You should have plenty of time to kill even all of the militia now. Be careful not to counter-kill Hickey before killing 2 militias. Just throw him or disarm him. Once you done the requirement, you can kill Hickey. BTW, he fights like a Regular/ Seeker, so he's not that difficult to kill.


This is EXACTLY what cinched it for me. I MIGHT have to restart the checkpoint a couple of times max, but TACKLING Hickey before attacking any guards is definitely the way to go. Once he gets up hit him ONCE to draw his attention, then counter+throw him. This gives you tons of time to complete the requirement. The last time I did it, I threw Hickey towards the gallows so he ended up about 20 ft from Washington and his guards and never got within 15 ft before I gutted him like a fish.

montagemik
01-27-2013, 01:07 AM
This is EXACTLY what cinched it for me. I MIGHT have to restart the checkpoint a couple of times max, but TACKLING Hickey before attacking any guards is definitely the way to go. Once he gets up hit him ONCE to draw his attention, then counter+throw him. This gives you tons of time to complete the requirement. The last time I did it, I threw Hickey towards the gallows so he ended up about 20 ft from Washington and his guards and never got within 15 ft before I gutted him like a fish.


Sorry but Multiple shoves & throws against hickey while fighting the militia on the way ??? .............Seriously , who came up with this nonsensical Time consuming method ? :rolleyes:


2 Running assassinations on the militia - take a musket from the final milita guard & Shoot hickey from afar while he runs up the steps towards washington , before he gets near the bodyguards if done quickly enough, Easiest method purposely designed that way .
Learn to dodge civilians using your joystick (like it's difficult) & learn the simple running assassinate technique = 100% with ease.

Kraschman2010
01-27-2013, 06:30 AM
Sorry but Multiple shoves & throws against hickey while fighting the militia on the way ??? .............Seriously , who came up with this nonsensical Time consuming method ? :rolleyes:


2 Running assassinations on the militia - take a musket from the final milita guard & Shoot hickey from afar while he runs up the steps towards washington , before he gets near the bodyguards if done quickly enough, Easiest method purposely designed that way .
Learn to dodge civilians using your joystick (like it's difficult) & learn the simple running assassinate technique = 100% with ease.



Multiple shoves & throws against hickey while fighting the militia on the way ??? .............Seriously , who came up with this nonsensical Time consuming method ? :rolleyes:

I'm no slouch with a stick. Been gaming for over 3 decades.

This mission however is VERY short on timing, I've tried the running assassination method, and the first one is simple, the second much less so, and you lose enough time dealing with the militia first that unless your timing is perfect and you have a decent dose of luck, he kills the second guard a split second before you can whack him.

By skipping them at the start and heading straight for Hickey, you maximize the chance to keep one or both of Washington's guards alive, and once you do the initial tackle on Hickey the guards can close in for you to easily deal with while he's still getting up, even beforehand if you're lucky. In rushing straight for him, you breeze past them on the way to Hickey, they only catch up when you tackle him. So you're not really fighting them on the way.

Remember it's HICKEY who is the primary target, the further from Washington he stays the better your chance for success.

montagemik
01-27-2013, 03:21 PM
I'm no slouch with a stick. Been gaming for over 3 decades.

This mission however is VERY short on timing, I've tried the running assassination method, and the first one is simple, the second much less so, and you lose enough time dealing with the militia first that unless your timing is perfect and you have a decent dose of luck, he kills the second guard a split second before you can whack him.

By skipping them at the start and heading straight for Hickey, you maximize the chance to keep one or both of Washington's guards alive, and once you do the initial tackle on Hickey the guards can close in for you to easily deal with while he's still getting up, even beforehand if you're lucky. In rushing straight for him, you breeze past them on the way to Hickey, they only catch up when you tackle him. So you're not really fighting them on the way.

Remember it's HICKEY who is the primary target, the further from Washington he stays the better your chance for success.

LOL , Sorry but I , Many others , Countless unofficial & The official guide approved by Ubisoft Seem to disagree .
At worst Hickey has time to kill 1 bodyguard before you SHOOT him . At best You Shoot him halfway up the steps.

You're supposed to be an Assassin - wasting minutes throwing people around to kill so few targets is ridiculous .

This like the Charles Lee chase isn't difficult once you have the optimum route - 2-3 attempts MAX is all that should be needed .

Kraschman2010
01-28-2013, 01:46 AM
LOL , Sorry but I , Many others , Countless unofficial & The official guide approved by Ubisoft Seem to disagree .
At worst Hickey has time to kill 1 bodyguard before you SHOOT him . At best You Shoot him halfway up the steps.

You're supposed to be an Assassin - wasting minutes throwing people around to kill so few targets is ridiculous .

This like the Charles Lee chase isn't difficult once you have the optimum route - 2-3 attempts MAX is all that should be needed .

I'm aware of the official guide. I HAVE the Official Guide, Collector's version even, and yet I and other people would say it's easier to do it the way I suggest.

That's the brilliance of the franchise. There are almost always multiple ways to accomplish the same goal. Both methods work, so why are you so threatened that someone else chooses a different way?

neil123430
01-28-2013, 01:32 PM
HOW? How am I to do this? I get pushed? FAILED. Guy takes to long to make his attack? FAILED. Guard gets pushed? FAILED. Connor takes to long to pick up a rifle due to the godawful targeting system? FAILED. Hickey doesn't stutter on the first step to Washington? FAILED. I do any kill animation other than the kick against a wall? FAILED. Connor doesn't start sprinting even though I'm holding.

Kraschman2010
01-29-2013, 05:26 PM
HOW? How am I to do this? I get pushed? FAILED. Guy takes to long to make his attack? FAILED. Guard gets pushed? FAILED. Connor takes to long to pick up a rifle due to the godawful targeting system? FAILED. Hickey doesn't stutter on the first step to Washington? FAILED. I do any kill animation other than the kick against a wall? FAILED. Connor doesn't start sprinting even though I'm holding.

Yeah the sprint thing can be a little tricky. I find it better if I just start moving forward, then hit the run button a split second later after I start moving. The same issue came up during the case for Braddock on horseback.

With regards to Hickey, have you tried making a beeline for him FIRST and tackling him, THEN dealing the guards? You may have to hit Hickey once or twice in between (make sure he's STANDING first otherwise you'll kill him too soon). Try using the method I explained in an earlier post. It's quite dependable unlike the running assassination method, at least in my experience. And if Hickey himself bumps into anyone on the way to George, it becomes 5 times easier.

montagemik
02-01-2013, 05:05 PM
I'm aware of the official guide. I HAVE the Official Guide, Collector's version even, and yet I and other people would say it's easier to do it the way I suggest.

That's the brilliance of the franchise. There are almost always multiple ways to accomplish the same goal. Both methods work, so why are you so threatened that someone else chooses a different way?

I Wouldn't be laughing if i felt threatened . :rolleyes:


Struggle on whichever way you see fit - I've synced the game fully 100% TWICE - Had no problems with the easiest method i figured out after only 2-3 attempts on my 1st gamesave play.

Why anyone struggles after 20-30 attempts is beyond me personally - IT ISN'T THAT DIFFICULT to be perfectly clear about it . :D
You're playing as an Assassin , not a WWF wrestler LOL , But if that time consuming method works for you , Grapple away .