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fordfan25
08-19-2004, 12:02 PM
im probly wrong but i was watching BoB this morning and i noticed on the close up shots of the bf109's that thay look alot like p40's that have been dreased up as 109s.mostly the noise.it doesnt realy matter just thought i might have spoted something. what do you guys think? great movie none the less.

fordfan25
08-19-2004, 12:02 PM
im probly wrong but i was watching BoB this morning and i noticed on the close up shots of the bf109's that thay look alot like p40's that have been dreased up as 109s.mostly the noise.it doesnt realy matter just thought i might have spoted something. what do you guys think? great movie none the less.

JG52Uther
08-19-2004, 12:42 PM
the Bf109's used in the film were Spanish versions with,i think,merlin engines.The Heinkels are the same as well,and for the Stuka's,i think they used Skua's http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Baltar
08-19-2004, 12:44 PM
I believe those are a Spanish variant of the 109 with a different engine. Someone else could prolly fill you in on the details. Looks pretty fugly to me though...

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lkemling
08-19-2004, 02:24 PM
Having watched BoB enough times to make my eyeballs fall out I always thought they used some hokey models for the attacks on the radar installations.

lkemling
08-19-2004, 02:28 PM
Having watched BoB enough times to make my eyeballs fall out I always thought they used some hokey model Stukas in the attack on the radar installations

John_Stag
08-19-2004, 03:34 PM
They did. No flyable stukas left, so they use RC models.

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WTE_Dukayn
08-19-2004, 05:38 PM
According to my 10kg book "Aircraft of World War 2", the 109s used in Battle of Britain are Spanish variants. See pics here:

http://www.rdrop.com/users/hoofj/Bf109_image.htm

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eddie_slovik
08-19-2004, 05:43 PM
i believe the 109's were buchons but i may be wrong.

eddie_slovik
08-19-2004, 06:05 PM
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eddie_slovik
08-19-2004, 06:07 PM
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-HH- Beebop
08-19-2004, 06:20 PM
IIRC they used restored ME-108's and added the bulges at the nose to give it a 109 look.

http://airwar.hihome.com/media/movie/movie1-ha1112.jpg

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chris455
08-19-2004, 06:21 PM
I beleive the Spanish called these 109 versions "Buchon".

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-HH- Beebop
08-19-2004, 06:21 PM
IIRC they used restored Me-108's and added the engine blisters to the nose to give it a 109 appearance.

http://airwar.hihome.com/media/movie/movie1-ha1112.jpg

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SUPERAEREO
08-19-2004, 06:36 PM
The 109's were all Rolls Royce Merlin engined Hispano HA 1112, the post-war Spanish version of the Messerschmitt fighter.

Since the engine is no longer the inverted-vee Daimler Benz, the nose looks a bit like the nose of a P-40.

A few of them apparently were even painted to resemble Hurricanes in the movie.

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SUPERAEREO
08-19-2004, 06:42 PM
All the 109's in the movie were Hispano Aviaccion HA 1112, the post-war Spanish variant of the Gustav. They mounted a Merlin engine, hence the vague resemblance with the P-40 in the nose.

Apparently some of them were even painted to look like Hurricanes from a Polish squadron...

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SUPERAEREO
08-19-2004, 06:47 PM
AFAIK all the 109's in the movie were Hispano Aviaccion HA 1112, the post-war Spanish variant of the Gustav. They mounted a Merlin engine, hence the vague resemblance with the P-40 in the nose.

Apparently some of them were even painted to look like Hurricanes from a Polish squadron...

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berg417448
08-19-2004, 07:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by fordfan25:
im probly wrong but i was watching BoB this morning and i noticed on the close up shots of the bf109's that thay look alot like p40's that have been dreased up as 109s.mostly the noise.it doesnt realy matter just thought i might have spoted something. what do you guys think? great movie none the less.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


http://www.unrealaircraft.com/hybrid/images/H109_esp_0.jpeg

HA 1112


I saw one of the Stuka models used in making the movie back in the mid 80's. It was at a museum in San Diego. Even half scale that thing was huge.

LeChuck59
08-20-2004, 05:25 AM
This is fun info and all, but what's with all the double and triple posts guys? Lay off the poor button.

IKG26Redcoat
08-20-2004, 05:27 AM
Bear in mind lads that it was made in 1969, no blue screen and stuff. I dont care if they did use Spanish 109s, and RC stukas, and even today in Dark Blue World for example, it was tremendously dificult to achieve a fraction of the ariel sequences like in BOB.Its a DAMN GOOD film, sit back,enjoy it and stop picking holes in a classic..........

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SUPERAEREO
08-20-2004, 05:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LeChuck59:
This is fun info and all, but what's with all the double and triple posts guys? Lay off the poor button.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Last night the website seemed not to accept postings, hence the multiple entries, which, I assure you, were not deliberate.

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trumper
08-20-2004, 06:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HH_Beebop:
IIRC they used restored ME-108's and added the bulges at the nose to give it a 109 look.

http://airwar.hihome.com/media/movie/movie1-ha1112.jpg

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9334/Image6.jpg


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Nope,they were the Buchons,along with the CASA 111 supplied by the Spainish airforce they were flown by volunteers and the C A F .

boxmike
08-20-2004, 01:57 PM
IMHO all time greatest WW2 airborne action movie. DVD is excellent with it's extra stuff. They told at one point about making the movie, the planes were difficult to see(with camera?) so they switched to over the cloud scenes.
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