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XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 03:45 AM
Will we see 'em over the new Western maps? It would be nice to see grey,oppressive skies over Belgium and France...

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XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 03:45 AM
Will we see 'em over the new Western maps? It would be nice to see grey,oppressive skies over Belgium and France...

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XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 04:04 AM
It would be nice flying above them for as far as the eye could see,thing about clouds though is that its unfair advantage to the ai planes,i dont trust ai planes not being able to see through the clouds,
proper sized mountains would be a good idea too.

XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 09:06 AM
I just think that "dreary looking" skies would be nice. Currently,we have nice blue skies for the most part. Currently, the only time the sky is really that oppressive looking,I guess,is during thunderstorms. I'd like to have a similar depressing look,but not neccessarily with rain...

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XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 05:35 PM
I agree, would be nice if we could get a 10/10th's cloud cover. The radar bombing was invented for this reason and over Europe, this was common place.

Not to mention, this might raise the altitude dogfights a tad. Imagine having a cloud base of 500 meters or lower where you would be forced to spend more time higher up, especially if mountains were in play.

XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 05:43 PM
I reckon its needed for BoB, in Britain its either overcast or cloudy, or raining

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XyZspineZyX
10-22-2003, 01:15 AM
Bump!

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XyZspineZyX
10-22-2003, 03:01 AM
The AI vs Overcast has some potential.

AI aircraft above the overcast cannot attack or "forget" about aircraft they were previously engaging below, and below vs above too.

Inside the relatively thin cloud level, who knows?

It *has* to be easier then making AI see dozens of distinct puffy clouds. With overcast the only variable is aircraft altitiude. No vectors and dot products and ranges and angle from edge of cloud to be calculated. No level bombing either. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


There was an interesting story from the old book Rise of the Luftwaffe about a squad of Stukas doing demonstration some idiot Politician ordered over the forests of I think eastern Germany in late 1930s (pre~WAR). There was "overcast" and the Stukas and their sirens dived. The leader was still diving away inside the cloud when he smacked the ground, and the whole squad followed him in. Nobody saw what was happening in time to pull out.

XyZspineZyX
10-22-2003, 06:56 AM
LEXX_Luthor wrote:There was an interesting story from the old book
- Rise of the Luftwaffe about a squad of Stukas
- doing demonstration some idiot Politician ordered
- over the forests of I think eastern Germany in late
- 1930s (pre~WAR). There was "overcast" and the Stukas
- and their sirens dived. The leader was still diving
- away inside the cloud when he smacked the ground,
- and the whole squad followed him in. Nobody saw what
- was happening in time to pull out.

Poor guys. Anyway, I wish we could get some comment on whether this will be included on the new maps or not or if its even feasible. Oleg? Anyone?

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XyZspineZyX
10-22-2003, 04:58 PM
bump!

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XyZspineZyX
10-22-2003, 05:20 PM
I wish it could be. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Unfortunately, they have a new baby, and they don't love this one any more. Just a tiny patch, a bunch of paid new maps and planes (mostly 3rd party work) and bye, bye, FB...

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It's a pity. It had a HUGE potential. Many things still to be done... Spanish Civil War... Africa & the Med... Pacific... Blitzkrieg... Battle of France... China... Winter War...

...mostly FORGOTTEN BATTLES...

...but, instead, we'll have the umpteenth BoB sim... that, I'm sure, it will be fantastic, but... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-22-2003, 05:42 PM
DuxCorvan wrote:
- I wish it could be. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
-
- Unfortunately, they have a new baby, and they don't
- love this one any more. Just a tiny patch, a bunch
- of paid new maps and planes (mostly 3rd party work)
- and bye, bye, FB...
-
- /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif
-
- It's a pity. It had a HUGE potential. Many things
- still to be done... Spanish Civil War... Africa &
- the Med... Pacific... Blitzkrieg... Battle of
- France... China... Winter War...
-
- ...mostly FORGOTTEN BATTLES...
-
- ...but, instead, we'll have the umpteenth BoB sim...
- that, I'm sure, it will be fantastic, but...

Seems like 1C will leave a path of forgotten games along their way toward future...:-(.

They sure do great sims but the lifespan seem to be fairly short.

XyZspineZyX
10-23-2003, 01:58 AM
Yeah, I'm doubting Oleg will add this if he hasn't already,since a new product is already in the works. Still,it'd be nice to know IF it'll be with the new Western maps. A simple YES or NO would do....

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XyZspineZyX
10-23-2003, 04:27 AM
I have heard Oleg is interested in expanding beyond BoB.

You don't want other theaters with the FB engine, as it is strictly low altitude in grafix and FM. Although, you know, those faults wouldn't hurt a Spanish Civil WAR addon with Mongolia expansion pac. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
10-23-2003, 11:36 PM
BUMP!

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XyZspineZyX
10-23-2003, 11:42 PM
macker33 wrote:
- It would be nice flying above them for as far as the
- eye could see,thing about clouds though is that its
- unfair advantage to the ai planes,i dont trust ai
- planes not being able to see through the clouds,
- proper sized mountains would be a good idea too.


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