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conundrumx
06-25-2004, 08:17 AM
So there is Pacific Fighters and BoB. Which one is due for release first? I understand that BoB is going to have a brand new simulation "engine" with reworked physics parameters, flight characteristics and graphics, but is this also true with PF? From what I see it seems that PF is an add-on/stand-alone continuation of il2 just like FB was. Is this correct?

conundrumx
06-25-2004, 08:17 AM
So there is Pacific Fighters and BoB. Which one is due for release first? I understand that BoB is going to have a brand new simulation "engine" with reworked physics parameters, flight characteristics and graphics, but is this also true with PF? From what I see it seems that PF is an add-on/stand-alone continuation of il2 just like FB was. Is this correct?

Gbucket
06-25-2004, 08:24 AM
Pacific Fighters is due for release in November and BoB is due later.

Pacific Fighters is not an add-on to any game, it's a stand-alone product.

Capt._Tenneal
06-25-2004, 08:49 AM
My feeling is that Pacific Fighters engine-wise will be somewhere between FB and BOB. Same graphics as FB but with game features FB doesn't have like carrier landings, openable canopies, folding wings, more complex damage models for ships, ship AI. Maybe some others not mentioned yet like kamikaze modeling where crashing a plane into a ship actually damages the ship (you can't do that in FB right now, or so I'm told).

Tully__
06-25-2004, 08:56 AM
PF is IL2/FB engine with some enhancements. BoB will be a completely new engine.

PF will be stand alone.

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hughlb2
06-25-2004, 09:00 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Capt._Tenneal:
My feeling is that Pacific Fighters engine-wise will be somewhere between FB and BOB.[QUOTE]

Yep, and that "somewhere" will be a lot closer to FB than BoB.

LStarosta
06-25-2004, 09:52 AM
I guess it's great that PF will be stand alone because chaining so many add ons onto FB and then AEP etc will just be nerve wrecking for new players. I will most definately miss flying European theater aircraft, however http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif.

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Hoarmurath
06-25-2004, 10:26 AM
PF is a polite way to say to the first customers, the ones who made this sim successful, "Thank you very much, but we don't need you anymore, so goodbye." So they can try to compete with CFS on a market CFS was targeting at. But now they can buy IL2 to say politely "Thank you to have made CFS3 the way we asked for, but in definitive, we prefer something else, like this IL2 thingy."

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DrDave242
06-25-2004, 10:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hoarmurath:
PF is a polite way to say to the first customers, the ones who made this sim successful, "Thank you very much, but we don't need you anymore, so goodbye."
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This makes absolutely zero sense, but thank you for playing.

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Chuck_Older
06-25-2004, 10:34 AM
I think I know what Hoarmurath means, but I can't say I agree. It's not Ubi's or 1C:Maddox Game's business plan to make one sim only.

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Capt._Tenneal
06-25-2004, 10:37 AM
For me it won't be "goodbye" because I'll be following them to the Pacific. And still be playing FB too.

ElfunkoI
06-25-2004, 10:37 AM
Don't forget the weather, open ocean swells, pitching carriers, beautiful clouds for miles that are realistic!, varying islands, Kaua'i!, Ni'ihau, O'ahu!....

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El Turo
06-25-2004, 11:54 AM
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BennyMoore
06-25-2004, 12:46 PM
I just don't know why they're doing Battle of Britain with the new engine and not Pacific Fighters. It should be the other way around, I think.

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06-25-2004, 01:32 PM
I don't mind PF being a "stand alone" product, I just wish that some of the objects (Liberty ships/landing craft etc.) could be transplanted into FB. Those two items alone would make it possible to do credible D-Day Invasion missions.

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