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AFJ_Locust
01-02-2004, 02:41 PM
Ok its already been established that the ki84 is overmodled @ certain altitudes....

What I would realy like to know is what is the true real life roll rate of this death machien... & what is its roll rate in this sim... (I think Skychimp said its rolling @ 180 degrees per second right now in fb)

I know it rolls great in this sim right now but I dont think it was as good as this in real life
altho I havent flown a real one!!!

I will try to reserch it... Real help not flames would be appreciated.

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AFJ_Locust
01-02-2004, 02:41 PM
Ok its already been established that the ki84 is overmodled @ certain altitudes....

What I would realy like to know is what is the true real life roll rate of this death machien... & what is its roll rate in this sim... (I think Skychimp said its rolling @ 180 degrees per second right now in fb)

I know it rolls great in this sim right now but I dont think it was as good as this in real life
altho I havent flown a real one!!!

I will try to reserch it... Real help not flames would be appreciated.

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_109_1072200458.jpg
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_109_1072200474.jpg

Leka_
01-02-2004, 02:54 PM
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ki84 is overmodled
how many in this forum realy now how planes fly , how many are real flyers .
allways some plane is overmodeld or something , gomoon boys and girls , this is just good game , but its fun to read experts writeings http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
cant wait , new addon , p-38 is this and that ....... why , where when
I-153 is overmodelled by theway http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Fennec_P
01-02-2004, 04:34 PM
I would be interested to see some real data on the Ki-84, in general. There seems to be little data to find online.

pinche_bolillo
01-02-2004, 06:17 PM
man im a noob, have been playing fb for 5-6 weeks now and I never played the original IL-2 so I am not real familiar with the game, with all that said I fly a Ki-84 a lot because I like to t n b at atltitudes below 3,000 meters. while flying the Ki-84 I love to encounter La-7s. those are my easiest kills, I can only guess that most La-7 pilots are over confident and engage in turn fighting with me. now the Ki-84 does not out turn the la-7 by a wide margine, but it does out turn it and out loop it. the only La-7 drivers that give me a hard time are the ones that are smart enough to realize that if they try and complete one more turn or loop with me I will have a shooting solution on them, they disengage and extend. the La-7 can walk away from the ki-84 on the deck anyway. one other advantage the ki-84 has over the la-7 in this game is that the ki-84 has a much higher rate of roll, and at medium to high speeds where the la-7s roll becomes poor the ki-84 still rolls as well as a fw 190. I have been on a lot of 190s and when they roll I have no problem rolling just as fast with the ki-84.

there is no doubt about it, at all speeds the ki 84 has phenominal roll. it is equal to the fw 190. the only problem is..........I have never seen any data on the ki-84 that charted its rolling performance over a broad speed range. the only way to dispute its rate of roll is to have some type of credible evidence that it is too high or too low.

[This message was edited by Tully on Fri January 02 2004 at 09:03 PM.]

SlickStick
01-02-2004, 06:45 PM
Then, I look forward to seeing you stop by the Lavochkin Performance Server sometime. It's a 1vs1 server I like to run with my LA7s against all comershttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

I run it in HyperLobby, Bolillo, stop by tonight or some other time. It will be fun to meet a ki-84 pilot that can't be verticaled out of E by an LA7 or turned inside of.http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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WUAF_Badsight
01-02-2004, 08:30 PM
LA-7 climb seems worse in FB v1.21to me compared to 1.11

KI-84 can climb away

but man the K4 .... that thing is insane at climbing

the Yak-3 is worse at climb than the LA7 so it feels but it also is deadly to the KI

i dont fear Doras they are eaisly beaten when you CO-E but K4s LA7s & Yak3s are major threats in the KI-84

Tully__
01-02-2004, 10:00 PM
Let's start reasonably fresh shall we, and have a glance through the thread currently stickied at the top of the forum.... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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SkyChimp
01-02-2004, 10:03 PM
I can't find any solid facts on the roll rate of the Ki-84. Sorry.

One thing I do know is that I've never seen any mention of a phenominal roll rate when it comes to the Ki-84. Turning ability and climb is mentioned with some regularity, but not roll.

There's a lot of planes in FB with highly suspect roll rates, the Ki-84, MiG-3, and all Yaks are among them.


(BTW, I was responding to a post stating I would find information on the KI-84 roll. That post aparently has been deleted.)

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AFJ_Locust
01-02-2004, 11:17 PM
Thx Chimp...

Ill look around theres gota be something out there somewhere.

Thx Tully!