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luisau
07-21-2004, 10:19 AM
Hi all,

I've found a new model of rocket for latest versi├┬│n of IL2 (1942's late and laters) called ROFS. Ô┬┐What kind of rocket is it?

Regards,

luisau

luisau
07-21-2004, 10:19 AM
Hi all,

I've found a new model of rocket for latest versi├┬│n of IL2 (1942's late and laters) called ROFS. Ô┬┐What kind of rocket is it?

Regards,

luisau

Tooz_69GIAP
07-21-2004, 10:22 AM
it's a high explosive fragmentation rocket. Introduced on IL-2s and other rocket launching vehicles in 1943 as it was more effective against german armour.

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luisau
07-21-2004, 10:24 AM
Thx a lot.

luisau
07-21-2004, 10:29 AM
Ô┬┐Where can I get more information about that rockets, please?

Regards,

luisau

VOL_Hans
07-21-2004, 06:51 PM
Why an HE-Frag rocket? I would think that HEAT like the BRS would be a better choice for killing armor?

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Tooz_69GIAP
07-21-2004, 07:27 PM
well, I dunno, ask the russians. They developed the rocket after reviewing the effectivemess of the BRS series of rockets was found to be lacking on german armour. The only way to really make sure you killed that tank was to get a direct hit, but their accuracy in firing them in RL wasn't quite so good (they didn't have refly when they lawndarted http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif ) so they often missed and the tank was virtually unscathed.

The ROFS frag rockets they produced increased the effectiveness of disabling vehicles and armour without a direct by around 90% or something like that.

I think their testing revealed that the fragments could penetrate up to 30mm of armour leaving an entry hole of up to 20mm across, or something like that, when the rocket detonated within a couple of metres of the target (going by memory here) which was generally enough to hit something in the engine, or kill the crew, or something to disable the vehicle/tank.

In game, their power seems comparable to the 5" HVAR that the P-38L totes in 5 brace!!

BUT....

....it would be rather nice for Oleg to actually TELL us where he got the data for these things, and give us his reasons for sticking em on, and just generally giving us a little bit of background on these types of additions (like maybe in the ReadMe??? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif ).

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LEXX_Luthor
07-21-2004, 08:09 PM
I know it, Oleg doesn't seem to realize there are real live Enthusiasts out there buying his stuff.

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Gibbage1
07-21-2004, 08:46 PM
I tested them a bit last night. They dont seem to have as much punch as the HVAR.

Tooz_69GIAP
07-21-2004, 09:55 PM
Well, that is why I said "comparable", not "same".

HVARs have a lot of explosive power. and they take out a whole load of stuff when they hit.

So do the ROFS rockets. But because they are a fragmentation rocket, they don't always hit their target (i.e. the fragments miss stuff http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif ). But put that rocket into a group of light-medium tanks, and it's gonna take a good deal of em out. (Also, a guy I fly with said he took out a destroyer with 2 salvos!!)

Soft targets? They're pretty much dead no matter what you do.

But yes, for blast radius and overall explosive power, I would say that the HVAR in game tops the ROFS. But the ROFS can do helluva lotta damage if the blast pattern is nice http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/icon_twisted.gif

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Kurfurst__
07-22-2004, 04:27 AM
What is the respective explosive weight and warhead size of the HVAR and ROFS?

As I understand, both are HE/FRAG rockets, not HEAT or solid AP-head type.

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Willey
07-22-2004, 05:39 AM
ROFS are the "AB-500" of rockets. Just like a small, propelled cluster bomb. Ideal for vulching http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

VMF513_Sandman
07-22-2004, 08:19 PM
i didnt see em blow up above a hanger, so how do u set these up to blow in mid-air above a tank

jurinko
07-23-2004, 03:32 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Willey:
ROFS are the "AB-500" of rockets. Just like a small, propelled cluster bomb. Ideal for vulching http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

you mean if the delay timing is set right, they will release a plenty of antiarmor stuff just above the target?

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luisau
07-23-2004, 06:15 AM
Well, ok all, but... Ô┬┐where can i get more information about that rockets? Thanks.

Regards,
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Tooz_69GIAP
07-23-2004, 06:27 AM
I've been searching myself for information. It is pretty thin on the ground, although I don't know much about WWII weaponry in general, so I am not entirely sure where the best places to look are.

Would be great if Oleg could tell us about the rockets, and what exactly they are and perhaps a little about where he got the information on them!! Nothing in the read me which is disappointing.

But they are a cool addition!!

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luisau
07-24-2004, 05:18 AM
Oleg, or someone else. I want to write an article for http://www.il2mania.com and I can't find information about that rockets. Plz, help me. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

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