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JBanton
06-29-2012, 08:28 PM
I know we are talking about an open-world game, but this thread's here just to see how the community feels about vehicle customisation. I've not really seen that much on the game so it's only sensible to suggest. I would really love to see a feature integrated in the game, because we'll no doubt be spending a lot of time in vehicles given the size of the open world.

It's been mentioned a few times, but changing the appearance of a car should also be a tool that allows players to fool the ctOS and the police. Seeing as a pursuing officer may not recognise the car's appearance and they certainly won't recognise a car with a different registration plate.

I don't know how many will sympathize with me here but I'd like to see just enough to make our cars unique and something that we're proud of owning. This would be enough for me;

1. Paints (colour wheel that expands to combine black & white with selected colour)
2. Bumpers and wheels.
3. Performance modifications; different exhaust systems, forced induction, transmission, tyres etc
4. License plates

What's your opinion on the topic?

MT4K
06-29-2012, 08:46 PM
Minor customisation would be pretty cool. As long as it is only minor stuff though. I would hate them to spend too much time on something like this when we might actually have tendancies to grab the nearest vehicle all the time depending on how the missions ect go.

I mean i'm not going to run back to where i parked my custom car very often after performing something like in the gameplay demo. I'm going to grab whatever is nearest that looks fast and get the heck out of there :D.

JBanton
06-29-2012, 08:59 PM
Minor customisation would be pretty cool. As long as it is only minor stuff though. I would hate them to spend too much time on something like this when we might actually have tendancies to grab the nearest vehicle all the time depending on how the missions ect go.

I mean i'm not going to run back to where i parked my custom car very often after performing something like in the gameplay demo. I'm going to grab whatever is nearest that looks fast and get the heck out of there :D.

It's a fair point, but when the story is over, or when (if?) you're just free-roaming it would be that bit more enjoyable if you're doing it using something that perfectly suits you, the gamer.

xChupa
07-02-2012, 10:05 AM
I would love it.

Mafia II had some car customization and that wasn't even a true open world game, so I could definitely see it being in a game like this. I haven't played a GTA game in a couple years; can someone remind me if those games had vehicle customization?

Regardless, I would love some car customization, even if it's just as simple as changing the paint. I don't want something so in depth that they spend valuable time trying to make it though.

I would love motorcycles too. Anyone know if they're confirmed? I loved the speed bikes in GTA IV (NRG 900).
And of course, I hope they have garages for us to keep our cars/bikes in :)

MT4K
07-02-2012, 10:11 AM
I would love motorcycles too. Anyone know if they're confirmed? I loved the speed bikes in GTA IV (NRG 900).
And of course, I hope they have garages for us to keep our cars/bikes in :)

Oh that's a good thought. I hope there are bikes as well. They are always fun to use in games :D.

JBanton
07-02-2012, 01:52 PM
I would love it.

Mafia II had some car customization and that wasn't even a true open world game, so I could definitely see it being in a game like this. I haven't played a GTA game in a couple years; can someone remind me if those games had vehicle customization?

Regardless, I would love some car customization, even if it's just as simple as changing the paint. I don't want something so in depth that they spend valuable time trying to make it though.

I would love motorcycles too. Anyone know if they're confirmed? I loved the speed bikes in GTA IV (NRG 900).
And of course, I hope they have garages for us to keep our cars/bikes in :)

GTA hasn't had any user-generated vehicle customisation since GTA San Andreas, the Saints Row series has though.

I would love to see some sport bikes and dirt bikes maybe too.

Garages? I would definitely like to see, it would be interesting to debate the features of the garaging system.


Oh that's a good thought. I hope there are bikes as well. They are always fun to use in games :D.

Yes, I totally agree with you, fun they definitely are, we could do flips after opening up bridges like we saw at the end of E3 gameplay.

Dymez_510
07-02-2012, 08:08 PM
Would it be nice? Hell yes! Do I think it will be in the game? Nope. I doubt the developers are going to put much focus on cars, period. I hate to say it, but I think the physics and handling of cars in this game will also be poor. Mainly because I believe these guys are going to put emphasized focus on the technology and control the player will have over the world that they've created. Games like Grand Theft Auto are focused around getting from Point A to Point B as fast as you can on 4-wheels, kill this guy, drop this off, and etc; Saints Row is a modified carbon copy. This game seems as if it's going to take more of a methodical approach with mostly on-foot action; lure this guy out, set that guy up for his downfall, trap these guys, know what your enemies will do before they even do, and etc.

JBanton
07-02-2012, 08:31 PM
Would it be nice? Hell yes! Do I think it will be in the game? Nope. I doubt the developers are going to put much focus on cars, period. I hate to say it, but I think the physics and handling of cars in this game will also be poor. Mainly because I believe these guys are going to put emphasized focus on the technology and control the player will have over the world that they've created. Games like Grand Theft Auto are focused around getting from Point A to Point B as fast as you can on 4-wheels, kill this guy, drop this off, and etc; Saints Row is a modified carbon copy. This game seems as if it's going to take more of a methodical approach with mostly on-foot action; lure this guy out, set that guy up for his downfall, trap these guys, know what your enemies will do before they even do, and etc.

It's interesting that you should mention the focus on vehicles, because it looked like they paid a fair amount of attention to detail; the red coupe that we saw in the E3 trailer had features such as a rear diffuser and exhaust system that was capable of producing backfire from un-burned fuel.

Your point does make sense though, I can understand if the focus is more on technology and how the player uses it, along with the setting and story.

Aversim
07-03-2012, 01:31 PM
I love bunny slippers and would love to be able to wear them in the game. Maybe not during missions but just walking around looking relaxed, they wouldn't have to be lots of different colours, just pink or pastel blue. Just think it would be cool to have a feature that has no relation to the game as we currently know it. Also I like hammocks, so accurate hammock physics would be good.

JBanton
07-03-2012, 02:38 PM
I love bunny slippers and would love to be able to wear them in the game. Maybe not during missions but just walking around looking relaxed, they wouldn't have to be lots of different colours, just pink or pastel blue. Just think it would be cool to have a feature that has no relation to the game as we currently know it. Also I like hammocks, so accurate hammock physics would be good.

We saw in the E3 trailer that we would be running from the police forces so why not? Also we're playing with an open world, surely you'll have to be driving around whilst not on missions.

Aversim
07-04-2012, 10:44 PM
We saw in the E3 trailer that we would be running from the police forces so why not? Also we're playing with an open world, surely you'll have to be driving around whilst not on missions. Having reread my post it a bit trollish and I apologise. My interpretation of the gameplay and world that has been presented so far, is that it leans towards a more Deus Ex HR style realism. Granted, we only have a very slim amount of info to go on, but from the trailer you appear to be on the run - the hunter and the hunted - and I don't see vehicle customisation fitting into that world without breaking the tense atmosphere. Spraying my car in GTA3 was cool, novel, a fun mechanism for getting rid of the cops and in keeping with the games aesthetic but eleven years later you want a feature so you can just cruise around. It just seems that you want a feature that chimes with your interests rather than what would make the game better. Now I cover my arsenal, if the developers can implement such a feature appropriately, then great and I'm sure I'll thoroughly enjoy it.

In the interests of full disclosure, I am 39 years old and have been playing games for over 30 years and want to see holodecks before I die, so I always want newer, better, different, challenging things from games. The greatest work has arguably been accomplished in almost every other medium. Will we better Shakespeare, Beethoven, Picasso etc, it seems unlikely, but the greatest game hasn't been made yet and looking back isn't going to get it made.

Wow, sort of went off on one there. Again, sorry for the tone of my previous post. I won't post grumpy again and will act my age.

PS Seriously, nice slippers, proper hammock and a laptop and I'm happy for hours.

JBanton
07-05-2012, 09:16 AM
Having reread my post it a bit trollish and I apologise. My interpretation of the gameplay and world that has been presented so far, is that it leans towards a more Deus Ex HR style realism. Granted, we only have a very slim amount of info to go on, but from the trailer you appear to be on the run - the hunter and the hunted - and I don't see vehicle customisation fitting into that world without breaking the tense atmosphere. Spraying my car in GTA3 was cool, novel, a fun mechanism for getting rid of the cops and in keeping with the games aesthetic but eleven years later you want a feature so you can just cruise around. It just seems that you want a feature that chimes with your interests rather than what would make the game better. Now I cover my arsenal, if the developers can implement such a feature appropriately, then great and I'm sure I'll thoroughly enjoy it.

In the interests of full disclosure, I am 39 years old and have been playing games for over 30 years and want to see holodecks before I die, so I always want newer, better, different, challenging things from games. The greatest work has arguably been accomplished in almost every other medium. Will we better Shakespeare, Beethoven, Picasso etc, it seems unlikely, but the greatest game hasn't been made yet and looking back isn't going to get it made.

Wow, sort of went off on one there. Again, sorry for the tone of my previous post. I won't post grumpy again and will act my age.

PS Seriously, nice slippers, proper hammock and a laptop and I'm happy for hours.

To be honest, I thought it was a serious point of debate, so I wasn't offended at all. My views aren't always correct so people have the right to disagree if they want to. No harm done ;)

It's a good point though; the whole personalisation thing probably wouldn't cohere with the rest of the game if it is to have tension as a key element of the story and gameplay.

However if there is some free-roaming, depending on how the story evolves personalisation would give players a better sense of immersion I guess. (At this point I'm probably just speaking for myself)

GIONAScm2
07-11-2012, 09:45 PM
Lol, every forum for open world games always has those people that are die-hard crazy for car customization :P

Meh it wouldn't make much difference for me. I prefer aircraft over automobiles. Speaking of which, when will be get new Watchdogs info!?!?!?! I hope at Gamescon.

JBanton
07-13-2012, 06:47 PM
Lol, every forum for open world games always has those people that are die-hard crazy for car customization :P

Meh it wouldn't make much difference for me. I prefer aircraft over automobiles. Speaking of which, when will be get new Watchdogs info!?!?!?! I hope at Gamescon.

That's probably bacause every forum has me on it with exactly the same name;

Saints Row Community
GTAForums
Sleeping Dogs Forum :p

An open world requires travel, so why not do it in style? Or in an enjoyable fashion at least; yes I do very much like helicopters :)

GIONAScm2
07-14-2012, 06:20 PM
Hmm I'll have to look for you on GTAForums... Maybe that WAS you :P

And yeah I see your point; car customization is always fun. Especially if you can upgrade your vehicles performance, (i.e. Engine, Nos, etc.) like in Mafia II.

And yeah I would be very happy if we can fly helicopters in watch dogs -- but I'd be even happier if we could fly planes! Oh boy, then we'd have a real GTA-competitor!

JBanton
07-20-2012, 06:49 PM
Hmm I'll have to look for you on GTAForums... Maybe that WAS you :P

And yeah I see your point; car customization is always fun. Especially if you can upgrade your vehicles performance, (i.e. Engine, Nos, etc.) like in Mafia II.

And yeah I would be very happy if we can fly helicopters in watch dogs -- but I'd be even happier if we could fly planes! Oh boy, then we'd have a real GTA-competitor!

I totally agree with you, planes would definitely put Watch Dogs on par with GTA in vehicular respect.

Performance modifications are cool, and I would like to see them, but the problem with including performance modifications is that if the list is extensive not everybody may know what they do. :(

I_AM_ALIVE
07-22-2012, 02:25 PM
I think it just beginning to ubisoft work on open world game .. in the future we will see the color of cars and any cool stuff workshops and car lot, another thing we always want it * (any idea to make clothes shop and buy from it to change my look and put the police away) - sorry for bad english :)

JBanton
08-11-2012, 04:16 PM
I saw there would be some odd free-roam places to visit, I saw a cocktail glass on the map near the expo. This may suggests that Ubisoft are looking to include some features to keep us entertained while not on a storyline mission, back on topic this could mean that car customisation may fit into the game then if there will be some free roam fun integrated in the game.

So give us a shop that we can get a custom paintjob and change wheels and I'm a happy guy :D

GaNjAdk
08-12-2012, 10:53 PM
Car Customisation, who needs it,

JBanton
08-13-2012, 05:12 PM
Car Customisation, who needs it.

Maybe not you, but other people do. Thank you for your useless post :|

@ I AM ALIVE, Using vehicle appearances and clothing appearances as a police tracking method sounds interesting, maybe customising these elements could help keep the police off Aiden's tail. ;)

JBanton
09-23-2012, 08:30 PM
I just thought of an idea, because this game is going to have technology playing a major role, maybe the vehicles that we own can all be fitted with multilateral-locating chips which could be essential to tracking targets trying to hide later on the story maybe?

JBanton
01-26-2013, 05:24 PM
Did anybody else notice that every model of car (excluding one) had multiple paint job colours? Also how Joseph Demarco's SUV had what appeared to be a special paintjob (white) and specially coloured wheels (black).

Maybe they're preset combinations, but such a system could easily form the basis for a decent level of car customisation. :)

Tyrone1985
02-04-2013, 04:20 AM
Lol. This is Ubi after all. Really doubt these guys will have customization

JBanton
02-18-2013, 06:38 PM
Lol. This is Ubi after all. Really doubt these guys will have customization

We should at least try and get it included, it's the third or fourth most viewed thread in the Watch Dogs section of the forums, surely this could be an indicator of good visitor interest.

Beside that, customisation would add greatly to the gameplay and could integrate with vehicle ownership and vehicle data...

DubstepPenguin
03-11-2013, 07:42 AM
I too would love to see it feature, having a unique vehicle that looks like nothing else around me. I would want it in because it would give me something extra to do that's fun. Plus it's something to spend money on.

JBanton
03-12-2013, 10:32 PM
More than anything, I definitely want the ability to select custom paint for any vehicle that I may own, simply because it's one key factor involved in making any vehicle unique, a demonstration of a good system includes at least the following features.

http://s19.postimage.org/k8ao5umcj/nfsw073.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/4zkqs2snz/full/)

I saw a car in WATCH_DOGS (http://watchdogs.wikia.com/wiki/File:GT-WatchDogs.jpg) with a CFRP spoiler, so I'm hoping we might see some other CFRP elements, it would be nice if we could toggle CF on or off like with MCLA, to create vehicles like;

http://s19.postimage.org/441p99vhf/Mitsubishi_Lancer_Evolution_IX_MR_Edition_06_T.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/krt7brq8v/full/)

or

http://s19.postimage.org/ms6azy9wj/Special_Stage_Route_5_28.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/ivsz3yowv/full/)

DubstepPenguin
03-15-2013, 07:35 AM
Those plates reminded me of something; so far every car that we've seen in Watch Dogs has had 123GAT on their license plate. I hope this changes.

I do like the idea of being able to track people by the vehicle that they drive, it sounds cool and inversely annoying.

I would love it if there was a car in the game that had unequal length exhaust manifolds;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApF31jsh36o

I really love that rumble :)

JBanton
03-24-2013, 07:14 PM
I really love that rumble too :D

I just had another idea, maybe at one point we could have a profiler upgrade that could disable the electronics of any vehicle that we aim for. We could disable police cruisers if we're driving, or helicopters if we're flying.

I hope the cars in the game have good wheels though, it really bugs me to drive a car with wheels that either don't match the car or just look ugly or boring.

DubstepPenguin
04-04-2013, 03:34 PM
@JBanton I like the electronics idea, sort of reminds of MCLA with the EMP.

I really do hope we get vehicle customisation, some racing games aren't offering it that much anymore which is really disappointing.

I think that this car; http://s19.postimg.org/ansxc059b/Sports_Coupe_HA.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/ansxc059b/)

would look great with a set of these on it;

http://www.talebtyres.com.au/content/products/bg_project7_char_titn.jpg

JBanton
04-05-2013, 06:35 PM
I love the project 7s, they work pretty well on a wide range of cars IMO...

http://s19.postimg.org/d3yi00fqb/Tsukuba_Circuit_163.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/is4sqwk2n/full/)

What I would really love as an absolute bare minimum is paint and wheels. Paint especially because the colour of a vehicle makes a big difference...


http://s19.postimg.org/af3p9za8v/High_Speed_Ring_139.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/af3p9za8v/)http://s19.postimg.org/b7x0axctb/High_Speed_Ring_96.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/b7x0axctb/)http://s19.postimg.org/w4kx3bhgf/High_Speed_Ring_72.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/w4kx3bhgf/)http://s19.postimg.org/4ktpt78db/image.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/4ktpt78db/)http://s19.postimg.org/w5hcoqi3j/Bern_Marktgasse_1.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/w5hcoqi3j/)

I would like it if we were able to get good finishes on each vehicle, as in reflections and such.

pacmanate
04-05-2013, 08:14 PM
I really don't see the point in car customisation. Its not a racing game.

TheRealSwag
04-06-2013, 11:33 AM
I really don't see the point in car customisation. Its not a racing game.

Neither were San Andreas or any Saints Row game. What's your point?

Sevrer
04-11-2013, 12:31 PM
How about armored vehicles? I'd like a small tankish looking vehicle, but obscure enough to not attract too much attention. Like a more realistic Batmobile from the Dark Knight trilogy.

pacmanate
04-11-2013, 01:53 PM
Neither were San Andreas or any Saints Row game. What's your point?

I just told you my point.

JBanton
04-11-2013, 11:24 PM
I just told you my point.
Which was invalid long before you made it. Not really an argument that holds any strength or logic.

pacmanate
04-12-2013, 10:22 AM
Which was invalid long before you made it. Not really an argument that holds any strength or logic.

How was it? You would rather have them spend ages on car customisation when they hold no real value other than to get from A-B? They don't need to go crazily faster than each other so engine customisation is pointless, as like I said its not a racing game. I also find colours pointless but if it was done GTA style and didn't take up too much time then yeah I guess it would be okay. I would rather them customise his Outfits and Guns.

I have some questions though.

What benefit do you get from customising a car?
What would you customise?
How would you customise a car in game?

JBanton
04-12-2013, 06:35 PM
Before saying anything your "A to B" statement tells me you may not understand the following...

Benefit; a vehicle to me is sort of like clothing; it's a reflection of one's identity and a machine that serves for both work and play. I like my vehicles to be fully representative of me, as an individual with a particular style and personality. Driving is fairly boring if there's no enjoyment or connection with the vehicle that I use to do so. For example, every Gran Turismo, Juiced and Midnight Club car that I own is customised, (even though in most cases not much) so that it becomes something that I care about, something that represents me and something that I can enjoy.

What would I customise? Paint, body and wheels. A change of wheels if necessary and maybe changes to aero parts. If there were a livery editor I'd love that. Blow-off valves for with turbo would be good for driving enjoyment too.

How? By driving a car into a garage like people do in real life?

pacmanate
04-12-2013, 08:44 PM
Before saying anything your "A to B" statement tells me you may not understand the following...

Benefit; a vehicle to me is sort of like clothing; it's a reflection of one's identity and a machine that serves for both work and play. I like my vehicles to be fully representative of me, as an individual with a particular style and personality. Driving is fairly boring if there's no enjoyment or connection with the vehicle that I use to do so. For example, every Gran Turismo, Juiced and Midnight Club car that I own is customised, (even though in most cases not much) so that it becomes something that I care about, something that represents me and something that I can enjoy.

What would I customise? Paint, body and wheels. A change of wheels if necessary and maybe changes to aero parts. If there were a livery editor I'd love that. Blow-off valves for with turbo would be good for driving enjoyment too.

How? By driving a car into a garage like people do in real life?

Yeah well I am not going to discuss anything with you seeing as you love cars according to your sig so there's no point :P

TheRealSwag
04-25-2013, 10:52 PM
I think it would be pretty cool to have this in, it would definitely be a good way to spend time while I'm not busy. JBanton kinda said any and pretty much everything that sums up my views. :)

GalakFyarr
04-30-2013, 03:27 PM
Maybe not you, but other people do. Thank you for your useless post :|

@ I AM ALIVE, Using vehicle appearances and clothing appearances as a police tracking method sounds interesting, maybe customising these elements could help keep the police off Aiden's tail. ;)

Or you know, grabbing the first car you see every time you need one, that can also keep the police off, and would make more sense.

Watch_Chica
04-30-2013, 06:26 PM
Or you know, grabbing the first car you see every time you need one, that can also keep the police off, and would make more sense.

I'm guessing you derped right past post #37 then. I would love too see a customisation system it would certainly extend the gameplay life a bit, plus it would be cool to see how it would affect the world around us.

GalakFyarr
05-01-2013, 04:51 PM
I'm guessing you derped right past post #37 then. I would love too see a customisation system it would certainly extend the gameplay life a bit, plus it would be cool to see how it would affect the world around us.

I didn't. It just doesn't really make sense to customise a car.

As far as I can tell from the trailers, Aiden is a wanted man. Why would you have "your own" car (that you would customise) if you're being searched? You wouldn't. You would use whatever you need in the situation you are.

Watch_Chica
05-01-2013, 05:10 PM
I didn't. It just doesn't really make sense to customise a car.

As far as I can tell from the trailers, Aiden is a wanted man. Why would you have "your own" car (that you would customise) if you're being searched? You wouldn't. You would use whatever you need in the situation you are.

So you think Ubisoft should get rid of the special Edition and the ability to purchase vehicles altogether? I think you're a bit late with this.

Customising would mean that your car would look different, so the police wouldn't notice.

JBanton
05-15-2013, 10:07 AM
So you think Ubisoft should get rid of the special Edition and the ability to purchase vehicles altogether? I think you're a bit late with this.

Customising would mean that your car would look different, so the police wouldn't notice.

It's good point; surely if vehicle ownership is included then they should make it a good experience for players.

DubstepPenguin
05-24-2013, 10:44 PM
It's good point; surely if vehicle ownership is included then they should make it a good experience for players.

It could also add to gameplay life. Adding such a system could give players something enjoyable to do on the side. It would also pretty a pretty good partner to the vehicle ownership system.

I like the idea mentioned earlier with vehicle data being linked to people, that would be cool and interesting.

Watch_Chica
06-04-2013, 04:21 PM
Some vehicles are perfectly set for customisation, there are muscle cars with silver/ black wheels, Cars with CF rear wings and there a bunch of sports hatchbacks as well.

Dymez_510
06-04-2013, 09:53 PM
Does Ubisoft have any experience with car customization in their history of IP's? I'm almost sure Reflections doesn't. If not, I wouldn't expect such a feature in this game -- not it in its first run.

Watch_Chica
06-13-2013, 06:34 PM
Found this on Watch Dogs wiki; http://watch-dogs.wikia.com/wiki/Papavero_MR

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130613074105/watch-dogs/images/4/46/Papavero_%28Stealth_Edition%29-WD.jpg

Those are definitely different wheels to what we've seen on every other occurrence of the car so far. Could this be a hint?

JamJar502
06-14-2013, 11:53 PM
Does anybody on here actually know what the cars feel like to drive? I'm not saying this to be annoying, I'm just intrigued, especially as I doubt the devs will talk about the driving physics much pre-release.

VaasCARV3R
06-15-2013, 02:57 PM
JamJar502, you mean what is the handling feels like?

If that's right, then yeah, it seems very good in the E3 walktrough trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BopujaTjfCc).

JamJar502
06-15-2013, 05:39 PM
JamJar502, you mean what is the handling feels like?

If that's right, then yeah, it seems very good in the E3 walktrough trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BopujaTjfCc).
Thanks, that's exactly what I meant, thanks for the link. :)

JBanton
06-26-2013, 01:40 PM
In the Jimmy Fallon video there was;

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130620171923/watch-dogs/images/7/78/Older_Sedan_%28Modified%29.jpg

Which confirms different wheel colours and additional rear wings for cars. Whether or not a player can do this to their car is unknown though.

Watch_Chica
06-27-2013, 06:48 PM
In the Jimmy Fallon video there was;

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130620171923/watch-dogs/images/7/78/Older_Sedan_%28Modified%29.jpg

Which confirms different wheel colours and additional rear wings for cars. Whether or not a player can do this to their car is unknown though.

So that at least confirms custom cars which is one (small) positive :)

JBanton
10-15-2013, 03:03 PM
The 599 GTB/ R35 GT-R in Watch Dogs is available with gold, silver or dark grey wheels. Maybe another hint?

AshfaqNawaz
10-15-2013, 03:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apaygDwyeCo

^He said no weapon/Car customisation.... :/

JBanton
10-17-2013, 10:47 AM
^He said no weapon/Car customisation.... :/

Oh well, one positive that we can take is that we will have special weapons (silenced pistols) and variations in vehicles (different colured wheels, some with bodykits)

So far as custom cars are concerned, it will be like GTA IV, where it was a case of finding and keeping the custom variations.

One thing I wonder is how vehicles are repaired in this game?

AshfaqNawaz
10-17-2013, 11:54 AM
Now the game is post-ponded.... We could expect some changes :-)

RaulO4
10-20-2013, 12:24 AM
hope they think about customization

in both weapons and cars


because when you Add money to any game people want thing to spend that money

weapon wont do alone.

look at SCB and GTA 4 both have a money system and both leave the player with nothing to spend that cash after 1 hour of play.

in gta 5 players got weapon, weapon customization, cars customization, houses, and business

Watch Dogs need those things but the business since that wont make since unless its illegal business
but safe houses and able to have your own custom weapon and cars would be cool....or what the point of having money if you just can pick up the gear from dead men,

Watch_Chica
10-20-2013, 11:24 PM
I want it, if not now, then for the sequel, just so that I can roll around in a car that's actually mine.

It could be worked in so conveniently as well; changing your car's appearance to fool the police database and other vehicle information data systems.

DubstepPenguin
11-09-2013, 04:35 PM
What I've realised is that Ubi are somewhat hypocritical;


First they say that they are supporting multiple play styles and giving the player a setup that allow them to do their own thing, express their own gaming style and create their own solutions to a task.


Then they don't give us the option of having a car or weapon that's truly our own, expressing our artistic or design style and creating our own possessions that we use on a regular basis for travel or those tasks.


Can someone please explain the reasons behind this hypocrisy to me???

I want to see wheel colours, body paint jobs, CFRP bonnets, rear wings and roofs available for all the cars.

They even modeled custom variants of cars and different wheel colours for others so this just seems like a no-brainer to me :confused:

JBanton
11-19-2013, 10:41 PM
What I've realised is that Ubi are somewhat hypocritical;


First they say that they are supporting multiple play styles and giving the player a setup that allow them to do their own thing, express their own gaming style and create their own solutions to a task.


Then they don't give us the option of having a car or weapon that's truly our own, expressing our artistic or design style and creating our own possessions that we use on a regular basis for travel or those tasks.


Can someone please explain the reasons behind this hypocrisy to me???

I want to see wheel colours, body paint jobs, CFRP bonnets, rear wings and roofs available for all the cars.

They even modeled custom variants of cars and different wheel colours for others so this just seems like a no-brainer to me :confused:

Those are some pretty interesting points. I don't know if Ubi reads this thread, but I'd also like to hear an answer to this :confused:

shadowmelder0
11-19-2013, 11:36 PM
What I've realised is that Ubi are somewhat hypocritical;


First they say that they are supporting multiple play styles and giving the player a setup that allow them to do their own thing, express their own gaming style and create their own solutions to a task.
Then they don't give us the option of having a car or weapon that's truly our own, expressing our artistic or design style and creating our own possessions that we use on a regular basis for travel or those tasks.


Can someone please explain the reasons behind this hypocrisy to me???

I want to see wheel colours, body paint jobs, CFRP bonnets, rear wings and roofs available for all the cars.

They even modeled custom variants of cars and different wheel colours for others so this just seems like a no-brainer to me :confused:

I don't find it hypocritical at all.

Lets take your two points:


First they say that they are supporting multiple play styles and giving the player a setup that allow them to do their own thing, express their own gaming style and create their own solutions to a task.
Then they don't give us the option of having a car or weapon that's truly our own, expressing our artistic or design style and creating our own possessions that we use on a regular basis for travel or those tasks.

How is car customisation going to change the way you complete objectives? Changing wheels or body paint isn't going to change the gameplay at all; it's not going to change whether you can takedown a criminal or murder him instead.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to have car customisation but I don't think it's something that will be included (especially considering there's also no weapon customisation).

In the end, as you mentioned, this is about allowing the player to express design style. Ubisoft didn't promise that; they promised to allow the player to express gaming style.

DubstepPenguin
11-20-2013, 12:39 AM
How s car customisation going to change the way you complete objectives?


Changing wheels could be a factor contributing to throwing off the police with wrong vehicle details
Changing paint could be a factor to confuse police, as they would have wrong vehicle data
Performance upgrades such as engine, exhaust, transmission etc could help a relatively slow car stay on the tail of a criminal that steals the Gallardo/ Aventador for example
Handling upgrades such as tyres could vary the driving experience to suit a variety of play styles
Armor could be used to help a vehicle withstand maximum police heat or a faceoff with a pile of fixers or security contractors.


etc...

shadowmelder0
11-25-2013, 11:49 PM
Changing wheels could be a factor contributing to throwing off the police with wrong vehicle details
Changing paint could be a factor to confuse police, as they would have wrong vehicle data
Performance upgrades such as engine, exhaust, transmission etc could help a relatively slow car stay on the tail of a criminal that steals the Gallardo/ Aventador for example
Handling upgrades such as tyres could vary the driving experience to suit a variety of play styles
Armor could be used to help a vehicle withstand maximum police heat or a faceoff with a pile of fixers or security contractors.


etc...

Points 1 and 2 are irrelevant, police would identify the car by its registration no matter what wheels are installed or which color the body was painted.

Points 3-5 have weight but I thought were discussing car customization in regards to appearance instead of performance. That's what most of the discussion on this thread was about anyway.

HspeedLdrag
11-26-2013, 05:28 AM
I for one couldn't care less about customization of vehicles. I don't think that adds anything to the game concept.

DubstepPenguin
11-26-2013, 09:29 AM
Points 1 and 2 are irrelevant, police would identify the car by its registration no matter what wheels are installed or which color the body was painted..

Which in turn begs for the suggestion of license plate customisation as well then ;)

It isn't as irrelevant as you think either, license plates are pretty small in comparison with wheels and a car's body (in that order). If a pursuing officer misses the plate (or they're all the same like GTA IV) then colours may be used as an identifier.

TheRealSwag
12-24-2013, 10:57 AM
There are so many variable elements already in-game (wheels, wheel colours, body kits and rear wings), I'm confused as to why we'll have to go hunting GTA IV style :confused:

I'd like to see performance modifications too; the cars have the quality and details to justify them, and they could help vary the gameplay with regards to driving, as aforementioned by others.

RazorBlade185
12-31-2013, 02:08 PM
Although I do understand that a faster or better performing car changes your play style slightly, I don’t think it is enough to say that you are now limited in your options with regard to tactics. You can also just steel a faster car that suits your demands.

As I understand it now there is a sort of customization, it is only not done on your demand. I see a lot of different cars in WD and some are based on the same model. My guess is that cars are randomly created in the game just like cars in the real world are sort of random. The way to get the car that suits you is to keep your eyes open en steel the right car. This can be done to steel the owners information and register the car on your own name through the underground car contact or just hack the vehicle or smash the window.

Weapon customization is something that is more important to me. It is kind of lame to buy a normal pistol and exactly the same weapon with a silencer. In real life nobody would do that. You just buy one gun with a silencer and remove the silencer if needed. The same is true for scopes, lights, lasers etc.

TheRealSwag
01-02-2014, 11:50 AM
Although I do understand that a faster or better performing car changes your play style slightly, I don’t think it is enough to say that you are now limited in your options with regard to tactics.
You'd be surprised what can be done when the right driver is matched to the right vehicle...


You can also just steel a faster car that suits your demands.
And risk having police trail you or the owner attack you? Also faster doesn't necessarily mean better.


The way to get the car that suits you is to keep your eyes open en steel the right car.
Right, so steal someone else's that probably isn't exactly what we want, when really we should have the ability to adjust all the variables ourselves, because they already exist in-game.


It is kind of lame to buy a normal pistol and exactly the same weapon with a silencer. In real life nobody would do that. You just buy one gun with a silencer and remove the silencer if needed. The same is true for scopes, lights, lasers etc.
Much like how in real life people bring their cars to parts shops instead of stealing someone else's.

JBanton
01-06-2014, 08:31 PM
Performance upgrades you say? I'm in.

At the absolute very least, paint should be customisable.

Watch_Chica
01-14-2014, 09:10 PM
Performance upgrades you say? I'm in.

At the absolute very least, paint should be customisable.

+1, unless we can store at least fifty vehicles, because we'll no doubt be forced into GTA IV-style vehicle hunting :/

DubstepPenguin
02-14-2014, 12:40 PM
+1, unless we can store at least fifty vehicles, because we'll no doubt be forced into GTA IV-style vehicle hunting :/

...even though the game does have models for parts that can be removed or swapped for alternatives.

Performance upgrades would be a more realistic solution to upgrading the driving experience in comparison with "boosts" that do things like "give more hit points to vehicles".

For example we could have things simple like;


Engine/ exhaust system tuning - improving top speed and acceleration a bit
ECU - overall speed and acceleration improvement
Suspension - improved steering response and control
Tyres - improved traction, braking and acceleration
Armor plating - mass improvement to durability

JBanton
03-02-2014, 01:20 PM
I sincerely hope that at the very least there will be good colours and a good range for each vehicle, including different wheels colours, for example;

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130916173645/watch-dogs/images/thumb/b/ba/German_MKIII_%28Rear%26Side%29-WatchDogs.jpg/640px-German_MKIII_%28Rear%26Side%29-WatchDogs.jpg

Should be available with silver, grey or graphite-coloured wheels;

http://i.imgur.com/i8dcafol.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xHmdJABl.jpg

and also different wheel designs, because IRL one model won't only have one wheel design available.

But let's be honest Chicago has a number of repair, wheels and paint shops for vehicles, so why not?

DubstepPenguin
06-15-2014, 12:15 PM
Jonathan Morin lied when he said we could collect all the cars. The Viceroys cars, emergency service vehicles and container version of the RCV aren't in the CoD. I suspected this would be the case. I hope they have a better system next time around, it's part of the reason I'm still yet to buy.

MnemonicSyntax
06-15-2014, 09:32 PM
The Emergency Service Vehicles are in the CoD. So are the Viceroy cars, just not Viceroy colors. I'm not sure what the RCV is.

Also, JBanton, I can't read your posts. For someone who desires color customization so much, you'd think that light font on a light background would be a no-brainer to not to do.

gmanfreedom
06-15-2014, 11:27 PM
I'd say, with the utmost sincerity, if you want car customization, go play GTA or SR.

It wont be in this game.

MnemonicSyntax
06-16-2014, 12:35 AM
I gotta agree with gman.

The point of CoD service is for one of Jordi's lackey's to find a car that's to your ordering specs that's nearest to you. Granted, from a programming standpoint, I know the car you order spawn's nearby, but in-game, it's what's nearby. This is why you can't pick the color of your car either.

TheRealSwag
06-23-2014, 06:09 PM
I'd say, with the utmost sincerity, if you want car customization, go play GTA or SR.

It wont be in this game.

It'd be nice if they have it the next one. Or at least integrate vehicle storage so that we can keep rare examples like viceorys vehicles and the police cars.

I'm not sure if this belongs here, but they really messed up on the vehicle classification. I mean why is there a luxury car (Magnate) and a grand tourer/ sports car (Hailkal R) in the muscle car group? SUVs (Talos and Kigen AWD) and vans are also in the budget group? As a vehicle enthusiast this whole grouping system looks either poorly thought-through, not well-researched for consistency with the real world and/ or utterly stupid.