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Jezzadog
05-07-2004, 05:24 PM
I asked this question at the end of a previous topic. Was probably the wrong place; so I'll start it off as a new topic.

Just hooked up my new X45 yesterday and while I'm delighted with the throttle I'm disappointed with the stick. I think the spring is too strong and detracts from the light control forces I would expect from a fighter aircraft. What I'm experiencing is heavy control force (particularly at small deflections around the stick's breakout points) coupled with slow aircraft response: the nett result being the impression of flying a large, heavy beast instead of a light agile fighter.

I've changed the control profiles in pitch and roll to Tully's recommended settings but I'm still not satisfied. I've tried a few "radical" settings and think I may be getting somewhere. What I think I need to do is to increase control response (ie aircraft pitch and roll rates) to offset the "apparent high stability" imposed by the stick.

My guess is that I would do this through the control profiles; but firstly I need to understand what the numbers for the control profiles represent so that I can have a better chance of setting up the system to suit my taste. Can anyone help?

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Jezzadog
05-07-2004, 05:24 PM
I asked this question at the end of a previous topic. Was probably the wrong place; so I'll start it off as a new topic.

Just hooked up my new X45 yesterday and while I'm delighted with the throttle I'm disappointed with the stick. I think the spring is too strong and detracts from the light control forces I would expect from a fighter aircraft. What I'm experiencing is heavy control force (particularly at small deflections around the stick's breakout points) coupled with slow aircraft response: the nett result being the impression of flying a large, heavy beast instead of a light agile fighter.

I've changed the control profiles in pitch and roll to Tully's recommended settings but I'm still not satisfied. I've tried a few "radical" settings and think I may be getting somewhere. What I think I need to do is to increase control response (ie aircraft pitch and roll rates) to offset the "apparent high stability" imposed by the stick.

My guess is that I would do this through the control profiles; but firstly I need to understand what the numbers for the control profiles represent so that I can have a better chance of setting up the system to suit my taste. Can anyone help?

"The mark of a true combat pilot is that he can throw his aircraft at the ground - and miss"

Lav69
05-07-2004, 05:50 PM
I can't make heads or tails of all your hyper jargon, but to smooth out the spring jerkiness, move the stick from one side to another and apply wax under the black ring (candle stick works good). Smoothes out "light adjustmensts". Smoothed my stick right out, then I made the adjustments in game. Works like a charm.

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_VR_ScorpionWorm
05-07-2004, 06:11 PM
Yep, use birthday candles on the base. I also use two small zipties, somebody mentioned this makes spring tension less. I have done it and my stick is perfect, no fighting the stiffness of the spring, and with using Tully's settings makes it smoother. If you use zipties zip two of the springs together.

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Jezzadog
05-07-2004, 08:37 PM
Thanks guys, birthday candles and zip ties it will be! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

Sorry about the hyper jargon - even I don't understand what I said (but maybe that's obvious). http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

El Turo
05-07-2004, 09:02 PM
I had the same problem when I initially went with the X45.. but you do get used to the heavy springs after a week or two as is. In fact, now that I've moved on to the CH Fighterstick (still use X45 throttle.. the stick just got too sloppy at +18mos of use) I actually MISS the heavy springs!

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Bearcat99
05-08-2004, 12:16 AM
USE THAT X45 STICK AS A button bay!!!

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lil_labbit
05-08-2004, 08:18 AM
OK for the throttle - there is a little screw under the base - turn it to adjust the tension / make it go lighter.

The stick's tension can easily be adjusted by putting a tie-wrap or a piece of thread on the string and pulling the string together. Also wax (like said above) or use a natural oil (not a mineral oil - this will harm the plastic) to lubricate the base-plate on the stick.

The numbers on the profile are set by the sliders in-game under Hardware-Input. Select axis there. Compare the red and green blocks to the left to see what response the stick will give...

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