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boltonlam
03-21-2004, 10:48 PM
sorry...i want to know range (number front of aircraft icon...ex- 0.35bf110,,,2.36bf109.etc) is show feet or meter ?

boltonlam
03-21-2004, 10:48 PM
sorry...i want to know range (number front of aircraft icon...ex- 0.35bf110,,,2.36bf109.etc) is show feet or meter ?

Aviar
03-21-2004, 10:56 PM
I believe 0.35 equals 350 meters and 2.36 equals 2,360 meters.

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Rajvosa
03-22-2004, 12:51 AM
Brilliant question. If everything else is presented in metric system (speed, height) why would range to target be in feet?

Come to think of it, when are Americans going over to metric system officialy? It would make business far easier, not having to convert from miles, feet, inches to simple meters!

Regards,

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boltonlam
03-22-2004, 01:36 AM
sorry about that !
because i always fly behind the enemy plane too close.! so i think is it show in feet.?and i don't know can i choose show in feet,mph in option menu.
and wwii is long time ago,at that time use feet,mile...etc too.
i read the book always said over 10000 feets,must oxygen on...etc...something like that..
sorry i ask this stupid question !hehehe

xiafan
03-22-2004, 01:45 AM
Not a bad Q !
Many games can display in feet or meter.
Up to U.

Goodnight

Kampfmeister
03-22-2004, 05:12 AM
Originally posted by Rajvosa:
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Brilliant question. If everything else is presented in metric system (speed, height) why would range to target be in feet?

Come to think of it, when are Americans going over to metric system officialy? It would make business far easier, not having to convert from miles, feet, inches to simple meters!
__________________________________________________ ____________________________________________

Easy there big fella. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif You sound a little irritated. It's not like you to respond like that to a new poster. He was just asking a simple question. Besides I don't think he's an American anyway. Personally as an American, I wish we would go to the metric system because I hate fractions. It would make things a lot easier IMHO.

Xiafan: I don't know if I understand your response correctly, but you can't change the game display from metric to non-metric standard.

owlwatcher
03-22-2004, 05:38 AM
It would be nice to have the option to use both ft. or meter.
I did not mind using meters for euro planes.
But as we see more US planes coming down the pike it would be nice to see the gauges on the planes match the displays on screen.

Zayets
03-22-2004, 06:03 AM
Would be great if they were in feet. This way,AI will break off at 400 ft and giving me that second to finish him off http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Used booth systems for 3 years. The benefit is great,I can switch froom imperial to metric and viceversa in no time.Part I don't like is when they start using 32 and 64 fractions. Why goo that far, I mean 1/128 of an inch could be reperesented much better in metric. But everyne uses what they like. Metric is great for science and I believe US uses it on a broad range in research&dev.

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Rajvosa
03-22-2004, 06:11 AM
Time for an explanation here!!!

I didn't intend to crack down on boltonlam and whether he's an American or Nigeriean doesn't matter one bit to me. I only mentioned American because they don't seem to know which way to go. Sometimes they use metric, sometimes imperial measurements.

Personaly I prefer meteric system, but have no problems with miles, feet or inches since I've been encountering this system since I started reading english litterature. And playing different sims definitely helped, like Zayets said. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Anyway, boltonlam, sorry mate if I seemed a bit rash, it was not my intention! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gifops:

Regards,

Jasko

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F19_Orheim
03-22-2004, 08:15 AM
Rajvosa... the Big day is getting closer????

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Platypus_1.JaVA
03-22-2004, 09:59 AM
www.metrication.com (http://www.metrication.com)

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Rebel_Yell_21
03-22-2004, 11:58 AM
First of all, I'm American, but, yes, I do agree that the metric system is excellent.

However, despite the realism imparted by having the Axis and Russian aircraft instruments authentic, I would pay to have everything in knots and feet. I say this because, to this very day, the universal language of the air is in knots and feet, and dammit, thats what I'm used to. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

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ulriktham74
03-22-2004, 12:03 PM
Sheez...

Rang is in METERS since Russians use metric system, like my country Sweden. All plane stats are in meters in the info files of IL-2.

1 yard is 0.91 meters
1 foot = 0.30 meters

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by boltonlam:
sorry...i want to know range (number front of aircraft icon...ex- 0.35bf110,,,2.36bf109.etc) is show feet or meter ?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

BaldieJr
03-22-2004, 12:50 PM
Metric sucks. Try converting 1/4 pounders.

Can I get a 113.398093 gram burger with cheese?

Think of the lines at drive-thrus if everyone has to say all of that!

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Rebel_Yell_21
03-22-2004, 12:56 PM
And I guess a double meat would only net you 1.609344 times as much. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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aerick2
03-22-2004, 01:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BaldieJr:
Metric sucks. Try converting 1/4 pounders.

Can I get a 113.398093 gram burger with cheese?

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

"Nah they have the metric system over there, they don't know what the **** a quarter pound is... A Big Mac is still a Big Mac but it's le Big Mac."


I remember a math teacher of mine telling me that when she was in college in the 70's, everyone had to learn metric because the U.S. was preparing to switch to the metric system. I don't know what happened to that, I guess somebody dropped the ball. I am an American and I would like to see us change to the metric system as well. I think it would be easier than the Imperial/English system.

Dunkelgrun
03-22-2004, 01:02 PM
Why not do it the half-arsed way we do in Britain.
Petrol is sold in litres but beer in pints. Milk comes in both. Shops are now supposed to sell everything in grams and litres but everybody asks for a quarter or half (pound) of whatever, and prepacked stuff will often have weird weights on it like 454g because it's really still an imperial size. Heights are in metres but the road signs are in miles.
A lot of shops will accept the Euro but the government is never going to make the change.

Keeps life interesting though http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif
Cheers!

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BaldieJr
03-22-2004, 01:07 PM
Plumbing and building-supply.

When your shi tter stops working and you can't fix it because a 200 milihectogram*-to-3 inch adapter doesn't exist, you'll be hating metrics.

When you need a 2x4 stud to replace the one your 16-year old broke while pulling the car into the garage, and all you can find is a 2x4 tangajoules*, you'll be hating the metrics.

Having all those fascilities retool just wouldn't be worth it.

* or whatever.

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">
______ _____
(, / ) /) /) , (, /
/---( _ // _(/ _ / __ ,""""]
+----/ ____)(_(_(/_(_(__(__(/____/__/ (__--------,' /---+
| / ( / ,' NR / |
|(_/ ..-""``"'-._ (_/ __,' 42 _/ |
+-.-"" "-..,____________/7,.--"" __]-----+

</pre>

aerick2
03-22-2004, 01:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BaldieJr:
Plumbing and building-supply.

When your shi tter stops working and you can't fix it because a 200 milihectogram*-to-3 inch adapter doesn't exist, you'll be hating metrics.

When you need a 2x4 stud to replace the one your 16-year old broke while pulling the car into the garage, and all you can find is a 2x4 tangajoules*, you'll be hating the metrics.

Having all those fascilities retool just wouldn't be worth it.

* or whatever.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You bring up a very valid point. Personally I think it would be easier to use metrics for distance/weight/volume etc. I think we would have to do what the Brits do and use both.

Friendly_flyer
03-22-2004, 01:22 PM
Being a Norwegian, I grew up with liters, meters and kilos. I know a foot is roughly 1/3rd meter, a pint is slightly more than a 1/2 liter (guess what unit beer is sold in!) and a pound is about a 1/2 kilo. Still, the annotation like 4ft 3" still confuses me. What is a "? And how many "s are there to a foot?

Still, I would very much like to see a system where you could choose between Imperial and Metric in-game. Distance to other planes was traditionally given in yards though, which roughly translates to meters directly.

Fly friendly!

Petter Bøckman
Norway

Rebel_Yell_21
03-22-2004, 01:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Friendly_flyer:
Being a Norwegian, I grew up with liters, meters and kilos. I know a foot is roughly 1/3rd meter, a pint is slightly more than a 1/2 liter (guess what unit beer is sold in!) and a pound is about a 1/2 kilo. Still, the annotation like 4ft 3" still confuses me. What is a "? And how many "s are there to a foot?

Still, I would very much like to see a system where you could choose between Imperial and Metric in-game. Distance to other planes was traditionally given in yards though, which roughly translates to meters directly.

_Fly friendly!_

_Petter Bøckman
Norway_<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

4ft 3" (also written as 4' 3") refers to 4 feet 3 inches. There are 12 inches per foot. 39.37 inches per meter.

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LeChuck59
03-22-2004, 01:31 PM
We'll never switch fully if for no other reason than our American football because it's also not as simple as suddenly using metric over imperial; we'd have to apply it as well. That is, we'll need to convert all the old records, data, criterion and misc. info we as a nation have accumulated over the past three centuries or so from system to the other.

Because we, as Americans, learn the admittedly obtuse imperial system as kids, we don't mind. And because the metric system is so intuitive we don't mind learning that either. So really there's no reason not to go on using them both.

mtowe
03-22-2004, 01:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>

Metric sucks. Try converting 1/4 pounders.

Can I get a 113.398093 gram burger with cheese?

Think of the lines at drive-thrus if everyone has to say all of that!
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Well look at the big brain on Bret!!

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horseback
03-22-2004, 02:17 PM
Actually, for Yanks & to a lesser degree, Brits, the easiest conversion unit is the mile being very close to 1600 meters (1608 or 1606, I can't remember which). Therefore, 400m is about a quarter mile, and 100m works out to about 110 yds.

Things start getting weird when we start talking about altitude (measured in feet), though. A mile is 5,280 ft, so 16,000 ft approximates to 4,800m. 4 miles is about 21,000 ft or 6,450m. I'm being very general here, but since the English standard cockpit dials aren't always spot on, I find it useful to keep track of these things.

I don't worry about speed, because I'm concerned about how high I am and how quickly I'm closing on my target(or the ground), not how fast I'm going measured in mph. Kmph on the speedbar gives me all the standard I need to keep my bird in the air.

Now for Rajvosa, the REAL reason America hasn't converted to the metric system is that in converting, EVERY manufacturer and storekeeper ("a little bit won't hurt, and besides, every one is doing it") would use the opportunity to gouge a few more cents out of each 'new' metric unit. This would increase the cost of living and doing business quickly and substantially, damaging the economy badly, and cost the party of the administration in power at the time the next couple of rounds of elections (at least four years).

Also, it would look like giving in to the French.

cheers

horseback

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FI_Deathsledge
03-22-2004, 02:26 PM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gif.........i find this topic to be a personal preference. now some go off the deep end with this, just like people with macs, they have life figured out more than folks with desktop PC's, or so they think http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

The_Red_Spoon
03-22-2004, 03:08 PM
An option to convert the (metric) speedbar to imperial units would be nice, but anyone with a half-decent arithmetic brain can do the conversion on-the-fly (just divide speed by 1.5 and altitude by 3 for a ROUGH conversion)

The icon readouts are in metric, so 0.25 = 250 metres etc.

Zayets
03-22-2004, 03:44 PM
How 'bout this:
yeah baby my weight is about 10 stones!
I should loose some weight but I really love my 500 ml beer can. Or, if I'm in a good mood, I'll go here on the corner for a pint of Heineken.And don't gimme that bullish quarter ponder example coz it never weight a 1/4 pound. As far as I know somebody won that case against McDo.Now , they have to put on their advert: Quarter pounder not warmed up, hehehe.
I like imperial when is about drink.Metric when I'm sober, hehehehe.
Baldie,all my pipes in the house are 1" except the ones used for water tank on my shi tter,hehehe.This is 3/4".Gotta wait till the damn thing is full to enjoy a dump.

Zayets out
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boltonlam
03-22-2004, 06:23 PM
Sorry about that !
Yes,i just want to know this game use feet or meter only.?not ask which is good.
of course,meter or kgs is easy to count .

Kampfmeister
03-22-2004, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by boltonlam:
__________________________________________________ ____________________________________________
Sorry about that !
Yes,i just want to know this game use feet or meter only? Not ask which is good.
Of course,meter or kgs is easy to count.
__________________________________________________ ____________________________________________

No Problem boltonlam. Not your fault. It doesn't take too much around here for people to start wandering off on some wierd tangent of the original topic. To answer your question, I'd have to say that the game only operates in metric, and there is no way that I know of to change it to imperial units. Cheers.

SwingerSpecial
03-22-2004, 11:24 PM
Quick quiz: Name the three countries in the world that do not use the metric system.


And correct answers are...


- Myanmar (formerly known as Burma)
- Liberia
- USA


The imperial measurement system is a doomed relic that just keeps hanging on for many reasons (malfunctioning toilets, etc). Good example of it's uselessness is right underneath everyones nose every morning and afternoon - the odometer on a car that counts in miles. They count in 1/10th of mile fractions. And when you see a sign on the side of the road saying "Road Work 1500 feet", how in the hell does that apply to your instrumentation?

The hamburger example (113 grams vs 1/4 pounder) really doesn't work, because it is a product name. You can sell a "21 inch TV" but in the fine print where you list the dimensions you put the measurements in centimeters & millimeters. The burger may be called quarterpounder but when asked about how much does the patty weigh its 113 grams :-)

Small steps are being taken in the background all the time (NYSE finally switching to decimals), my prediction is that within the next 20 years this process will be complete. Construction business will have the hardest time adjusting (won't matter to me, my 1912 built house conforms to neither metric or imperial measurements, oh joy :-)), but they'll come around eventually just like the car manufacturers did.

Friendly_flyer
03-22-2004, 11:41 PM
For those lovers of the Imperial: Don't worry, bits and pieces of the system will survive for a very long time. Norway switched to metric more than a century ago. Still, planks and beams are sold in "tommer" (inches), firewood is sold by the "fange" (as much as you can wrap your arms around) and shotgun calibre is still measured by "bullets to the pound".

To Boltenlam: Sorry, there's no way to switch to Imperial. However, the numbers are in kilometers (0.57 means 570 meters). Just think of meters as yards, and you will be of by no more than 1/10, which does not really matter as far as machinegun convergence an such goes.

A simple option with a choice between the two would be very nice. Perhaps an idea for an upcoming patch?

Fly friendly!

Petter Bøckman
Norway

Capt.LoneRanger
03-22-2004, 11:45 PM
I kind of like the imperial measure. But then, I'm quite interested in the middle ages, anyways http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


For the sake of international communication and the more scientific foundation of the metric system I prefer the latter. But then, while the imperial system is largely based on holy numbers mentioned in the bible, like 12, 9 and 3, as well as common measures, like a feet for instance, measuring the length of a feet or the distance from your hand to your elbow, the metric system uses a quite similar basis.

Does anybody know? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

Okay, I'll enlighten you: It's 1/1,000,000 the distance from Paris to the NorthPole.

But IMHO the metric system's biggest advantage is the decimal system, that is a lot easier to calculate. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Oh, one more thing: We have pounds and feet and inch in Europe, too. But they differ from country to country. Guess that's why they were replaced in the 19th century.

greets
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Rajvosa
03-23-2004, 01:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by F19_Orheim:
Rajvosa... the Big day is getting closer????
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Big day is definitely comming closer. However, we've experienced certain "problems" at the Swedish embasy in Sarajevo. She not being Swedish has really turned the whole thing into a nightmare and postponed the Big day for a few weeks. I can't tell you how it feels! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif


@ Horseback:
What's up with the France? They are definitely not the only ones that are using metric system.

@Baldie Jr:
You got a quarter pounder substitute for your brain? You little troller!

Regards,

Jasko

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horseback
03-23-2004, 12:21 PM
Rajvosa-

As I understand it, the French are the ones who started the metric system, and they are currently in some disfavor in some circles here. Personally, I took up the habit of ridiculing them when they bailed out of NATO back in the sixties, and my USAF dependents' school in England (Bentwaters) was flooded with 'refugees' from families formerly based in France. Our English hosts seemed to approve...

cheers

horseback

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