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XyZspineZyX
08-15-2003, 04:24 AM
Hi,
I did a quick test of roll rates of the P-47D-27
in FB1.0 and FB1.1b The test was done in both versions at 5,000 meters and 200 meters, and at two different speeds at
both altitudes. Results are in degrees per second ( DPS )
and the method used was to roll right 90 degrees and I timed the time it took with stopwatch. All tests were conducted three times, then averaged. Seemingly there is almost no difference between the two, indicating this roll
issue was not addressed or either that or my methodology is at fault. Actually roll is very slightly worse in the patched version for this particular plane. I used indicated speed. You may convert it to TAS but it's all relative really.

Here's the results:

Version 1.0 P-47D-27

5,000 meters/430KPH IAS = 27.6DPS
5,000 meters/360KPH IAS = 36.0DPS
200 meters/480KPH IAS = 35.7DPS
200 meters/360KPH IAS = 54.8DPS

Version 1.1b P-47D-27

5,000 meters/430KPH IAS = 26.6DPS
5,000 meters/360KPH IAS = 34.8DPS
200 meters/480KPH IAS = 32.0DPS
200 meters/360KPH IAS = 52.0DPS


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XyZspineZyX
08-15-2003, 04:24 AM
Hi,
I did a quick test of roll rates of the P-47D-27
in FB1.0 and FB1.1b The test was done in both versions at 5,000 meters and 200 meters, and at two different speeds at
both altitudes. Results are in degrees per second ( DPS )
and the method used was to roll right 90 degrees and I timed the time it took with stopwatch. All tests were conducted three times, then averaged. Seemingly there is almost no difference between the two, indicating this roll
issue was not addressed or either that or my methodology is at fault. Actually roll is very slightly worse in the patched version for this particular plane. I used indicated speed. You may convert it to TAS but it's all relative really.

Here's the results:

Version 1.0 P-47D-27

5,000 meters/430KPH IAS = 27.6DPS
5,000 meters/360KPH IAS = 36.0DPS
200 meters/480KPH IAS = 35.7DPS
200 meters/360KPH IAS = 54.8DPS

Version 1.1b P-47D-27

5,000 meters/430KPH IAS = 26.6DPS
5,000 meters/360KPH IAS = 34.8DPS
200 meters/480KPH IAS = 32.0DPS
200 meters/360KPH IAS = 52.0DPS


"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin - 1755

"Who cares about essential liberty? What essential liberty? Well wait
'til Patriot act II, we'll see about your precious liberties!!" John Ashcroft - 2003

XyZspineZyX
08-15-2003, 06:33 AM
Hey does anybody know how this compares to historic data???

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XyZspineZyX
08-15-2003, 10:22 AM
what about tests of people who calibrate thier controller in a smaller circle,

also how are you timing the roll rate do you do it by the guage in a recorded track? Just wondering


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XyZspineZyX
08-15-2003, 05:38 PM
Of course I didn't do it in a recorded track!!! Personally I don't think how you calibrate your joystick has a lot to do with it at all. All you need to accomplish is to get the ailerons to their full travel as quickly as possible. How you calibrate your stick will not affect this at all. You may get your stick to full deflection faster but it will still take the ailerons the same amount of time to deflect to maximum travel. This is similar to the fix that Oleg did for the "trim cheat". He simply increased the time it takes for the trim to go where it's going, so no matter how fast you move your slider, it still takes time for the actual simulated travel of the trim ( in FB and IL2 the whole elevator moves instead of trim tabs ) movement to go to where you set it. This is what RBJ was whining about for so long. He moves his slider now, but has to wait for it to take affect. I just don't think joystick calibration affects things as much as people think!!! Think about it. The speed the ailerons take to travel does not change. You may only have to move your stich sideways a little and I have to move mine all the way to the side but I can do that as quick as you and the ailerons won't go any faster for you.

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin - 1755

"Who cares about essential liberty? What essential liberty? Well wait
'til Patriot act II, we'll see about your precious liberties!!" John Ashcroft - 2003