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BlindSight720
01-25-2012, 11:19 PM
I understand peoples aggravation with overpriced DLC which could have been put into the physical copy of the game. However, I think most are being way to harsh in their blaming Ubisoft for "ripping them off". It's like everyone sees Ubi as one giant person who is trying to take every dollar he can for the least amount of work possible. If this were the case, then the act of most people's reasonings would be warranted. But, I think we need to assess what is going on by viewing it as the bigger picture that it is.

One. Ubi is a company. A very large company (you know, the type of company occupy movements want to bring down...). Many people work for Ubi, and every single one of them is trying to make money for their own well being. I don't know the average salaries of anyone who works there, or how much people higher up in the company make, but that doesn't concern me. they could make fifty grand a year, or a million a year. Either way, these people are experts at what they do, they have worked hard to get to where they are, and they do a damn good job. Why people want to take away the ability of someone being able to make as much money as their hard work and qualifications allow, I will never know.

Anyway, I'm getting off subject. Now I don't know the statistics, but I'm going to assume that Revelations hasn't sold as well as hoped. I'm basing this off of the 50% price cut that went on for a number of weeks only a little over a month after the game came out. That, and the game hasn't been very well accepted as a good edition to the series (this isn't opinion). Still, thousands of people went into this project for a few reasons. One, to try and create a good game for us to enjoy, and two, TO MAKE MONEY. How evil. People who are experts in the field of making games rely on "we the people" to by games for their own well beings. Well I have never...

In all seriousness. YES! Ubi needs money in order to give (or at least attempt) us what we want and to continue being able to make quality games. In order to pay all those employed by Ubi who worked on the ACR project, they need to make money by selling the game. If the game doesn't do well, Ubi struggles because they still have all these employees who HAVE to be paid. If putting out a DLC in a attempt to make profit (another very EVIL word) could help ease the financial difficulties for the company, why wouldn't they at least try? It's not like DLC snaps your disc in half if you don't buy it. If you don't think it's worth the money, then enjoy playing what you do think is worth your money.

I know this is long winded and may not have a very defined point, but I'm just trying to get people to see that these major companies aren't run by greed (of course there are greedy people involved, especially at the top, but aren't we all at least a little bit greedy?). There are normal people who work at Ubi who are just trying to make a living like the rest of us. This whole idea of global fairness will be the end of us all if we try to pursue the idea. Life isn't fare, so you might as well enjoy what you have rather than complain about what others have (Yes, After-school special is the only way to end this post).

DigDug510
01-25-2012, 11:24 PM
Ummm...the point of the boycott was to get the developers to at least converse with this community about possible patches/fixes to bugs and game mechanics. Not price. Unless I'm sadly mistaken.

LadyGahan2010
01-25-2012, 11:28 PM
Also, you don't understand Occupy Movement. Off topic, sorry, you brought it up though.

xCr0wnedNorris
01-25-2012, 11:30 PM
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Chronomancy
01-25-2012, 11:33 PM
http://www.deviantart.com/download/200407346/o_rly_ya_rly_no_wai_by_wolf_dark_moon-d3bbfaq.png

Ooh, this!

YazX_
01-25-2012, 11:36 PM
@BlindSight,

this is not only about money, you said they need money to produce a quality game to us well this case has not been fulfilled, they took money and didnt deliver what they promised and above all that they are releasing more DLCs for unreasonable price comapred to the content leaving all reported issues and bugs unsolved, what matters to them is producing more DLCs to get more money, i feel its COD now not AC, they are ruining this beautiful game by doing this. when everyone walks out this game, they would realized what they've done.

We complained alot, but they did nothing even before (since ACB).

And btw, ACR sold more than ACB and a AC3 is announced to be released this year, if the game doesnt sell well then they would cut it out, but because it sells well, they are making it on yearly basis producing less quality game in favor of money and dismissing all community thoughts.

BlindSight720
01-25-2012, 11:45 PM
Also, you don't understand Occupy Movement. Off topic, sorry, you brought it up though.

I didn't bring it up to try and define the occupy movement in one small sentence. It was merely a knock at it. Obviously the "movement" is directed more toward inequality. The overall implications of that, however, do have to do with how I mentioned it. I'm not going to go into that here though for obvious reasons.

Also to dug.

I guess i shouldn't have posted this in direct response to that thread. I've just read one too any post about how greedy Ubi is because of the DLC's.

BlindSight720
01-26-2012, 12:07 AM
@BlindSight,

this is not only about money, you said they need money to produce a quality game to us well this case has not been fulfilled, they took money and didnt deliver what they promised and above all that they are releasing more DLCs for unreasonable price comapred to the content leaving all reported issues and bugs unsolved, what matters to them is producing more DLCs to get more money, i feel its COD now not AC, they are ruining this beautiful game by doing this. when everyone walks out this game, they would realized what they've done.

We complained alot, but they did nothing even before (since ACB).

And btw, ACR sold more than ACB and a AC3 is announced to be released this year, if the game doesnt sell well then they would cut it out, but because it sells well, they are making it on yearly basis producing less quality game in favor of money and dismissing all community thoughts.

I agree on some aspects. AC is Ubi's COD. It's their money maker, but I wouldn't say, in actual comparison, that it sells anywhere near what COD does. And keep in mind, I'm in no way saying the DLC is good product or that anyone who chooses not to buy it is wrong for doing so. Heck, I'm not going to buy it.

At the same time, I do try to at least give Ubi the benefit of the doubt in trying to reason why they put out any DLC. I'm trying not to jump straight to the conclusion that it's because they are greedy. I do really like playing AC, and i do agree the quality of the games have gone down with each new installment. As much as I wish the real world wasn't involved in the fantasy world known as gaming, it's absolutely impossible for money to not affect the games we love, positively or negatively.

It may not be what we want exactly, but we have to except that at some point a company has to do everything in it's power to keep from collapsing. I'm not claiming to know anything about Ubi's financial status, but it is't inconceivable to think that they, like many companies in these rough economic times, are just trying to survive.

AwkwardlyBruta
01-26-2012, 12:50 AM
I agree on some aspects. AC is Ubi's COD. It's their money maker, but I wouldn't say, in actual comparison, that it sells anywhere near what COD does. And keep in mind, I'm in no way saying the DLC is good product or that anyone who chooses not to buy it is wrong for doing so. Heck, I'm not going to buy it.

At the same time, I do try to at least give Ubi the benefit of the doubt in trying to reason why they put out any DLC. I'm trying not to jump straight to the conclusion that it's because they are greedy. I do really like playing AC, and i do agree the quality of the games have gone down with each new installment. As much as I wish the real world wasn't involved in the fantasy world known as gaming, it's absolutely impossible for money to not affect the games we love, positively or negatively.

It may not be what we want exactly, but we have to except that at some point a company has to do everything in it's power to keep from collapsing. I'm not claiming to know anything about Ubi's financial status, but it is't inconceivable to think that they, like many companies in these rough economic times, are just trying to survive.


Do you play escort? I'm assuming no, It is almost impossible to find a game without any bugs or glitches, escort is the buggest mode of them all as far as I know, once I was protecting my VIP and for a minute he just stood in the courtyard of Mt saint, and wouldn't move towards the checkpoints, he was still alive and the other team charged him, luckily I held them off for a minute, then after my VIP was satisfied with the loss of life he started moving towards checkpoints, he should've hit two or three checkpoints but he just stood there (I'm not making this up I knifed two guys in the time he started moving) so not only are all of the escort bugs from AC:B in escort, they sometimes stop, or will walk off their track to stand on a roof. or something, it is so annoying it's not even funny.

Anyways Ubi never posts on the forums, looks at the forums, or does any sort of "Just so you know, Patch!", that's what I'm guessing most of it is about.

Dave0718
01-26-2012, 03:26 AM
People aren't angry over price, it's about the bugs and glitches and general ****tiness of ACR.

Also in the first post why did you make it bold? I don't know why but writing in bold always makes me think of a child writing in crayon.

EnglishPhoenix
01-26-2012, 05:33 AM
Eh, I was ok with the bold. It made it much easier to read.

But I choose not to buy this DLC because I feel to have half of it be old content that took almost no effort to add in is ripping me off. I also don't appreciate the lack of fixing bugs and glitches after a couple months of being out. And continued broken match making. Why should they expect me to pour more money into a game that I don't feel is working correctly?

IIVeterano
01-26-2012, 08:52 AM
if ubi was a fair company why would they stuff up a game and then not fix it
if they care about the game then it would have been fix after the beta ended nd the game was released

and if they couldnt of fixed it then, then it would of been fix 1 month released

does anyone at ubisoft care about our freedom of speech
No, we release a game and Dlc that should be enough

it is NOT!!!!!

ABXantos
01-26-2012, 09:10 AM
I'm just trying to understand why a separate thread was made on the boycott topic...

Im just gonna say this OP, you completely missed the point of the boycott and you have no idea what the occupy movement was about.

End of story. :|

Emvidasch
01-26-2012, 09:14 AM
The boycott or not buying any DLC is ineffective, we know. But the huge commotion DID bring the attention towards the thread and let the dev team in the company know that whenever we send a ticket of a bug or glitch, we want them to give it a priority over something paid. No matter how you look at it, there will always be more people on the free content than on the paid content and thus, the majority of players must be aided first. This whole situation allows them to redeem themselves, and if they do, they'll receive some positive feedback that will spread as free advertising. If not, well then every gaming site will probably know and both their sales and image goes down.

Kogia
01-26-2012, 10:42 AM
BlindSight I think you have done what is so common when people mention a boycott of a company for specific reasons and that is to entirely misunderstand the reasons for the boycott and what the boycott is hoping to achieve and why boycotts are pretty much the only voice for consumers to let a company know they are not happy with the product the company wants to sell.

Moi-dix-Mois43
02-06-2012, 08:14 PM
Haha, this post is stupid :D Anyway, you see those people all with the same siggy's? Yeah, read those. It wasn't cause ONE DLC was a bit expensive -__- It's irritating, yes, but that is NOT why the boycott was started. It was because of the general unreadiness of the game. It's practically unfinished.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbNIuNGXUmQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OJdhgqTUFg (Check out part 1 and 2 while you're at it)

I could post one huge rant on it, but pretty much every other person has already done that, just explore the d!mn forums. I see you have three posts. That means you're either a lurker or extremely new to the forums. Either way, I can't take this seriously...

swimmer_81
02-06-2012, 08:18 PM
I'm just trying to understand why a separate thread was made on the boycott topic...

Im just gonna say this OP, you completely missed the point of the boycott and you have no idea what the occupy movement was about.

End of story. :|
^^^ this

FilipinoNinja67
02-07-2012, 04:55 AM
I understand peoples aggravation with overpriced DLC which could have been put into the physical copy of the game. However, I think most are being way to harsh in their blaming Ubisoft for "ripping them off". It's like everyone sees Ubi as one giant person who is trying to take every dollar he can for the least amount of work possible. If this were the case, then the act of most people's reasonings would be warranted. But, I think we need to assess what is going on by viewing it as the bigger picture that it is.

One. Ubi is a company. A very large company (you know, the type of company occupy movements want to bring down...). Many people work for Ubi, and every single one of them is trying to make money for their own well being. I don't know the average salaries of anyone who works there, or how much people higher up in the company make, but that doesn't concern me. they could make fifty grand a year, or a million a year. Either way, these people are experts at what they do, they have worked hard to get to where they are, and they do a **** good job. Why people want to take away the ability of someone being able to make as much money as their hard work and qualifications allow, I will never know.

Anyway, I'm getting off subject. Now I don't know the statistics, but I'm going to assume that Revelations hasn't sold as well as hoped. I'm basing this off of the 50% price cut that went on for a number of weeks only a little over a month after the game came out. That, and the game hasn't been very well accepted as a good edition to the series (this isn't opinion). Still, thousands of people went into this project for a few reasons. One, to try and create a good game for us to enjoy, and two, TO MAKE MONEY. How evil. People who are experts in the field of making games rely on "we the people" to by games for their own well beings. Well I have never...

In all seriousness. YES! Ubi needs money in order to give (or at least attempt) us what we want and to continue being able to make quality games. In order to pay all those employed by Ubi who worked on the ACR project, they need to make money by selling the game. If the game doesn't do well, Ubi struggles because they still have all these employees who HAVE to be paid. If putting out a DLC in a attempt to make profit (another very EVIL word) could help ease the financial difficulties for the company, why wouldn't they at least try? It's not like DLC snaps your disc in half if you don't buy it. If you don't think it's worth the money, then enjoy playing what you do think is worth your money.

I know this is long winded and may not have a very defined point, but I'm just trying to get people to see that these major companies aren't run by greed (of course there are greedy people involved, especially at the top, but aren't we all at least a little bit greedy?). There are normal people who work at Ubi who are just trying to make a living like the rest of us. This whole idea of global fairness will be the end of us all if we try to pursue the idea. Life isn't fare, so you might as well enjoy what you have rather than complain about what others have (Yes, After-school special is the only way to end this post).

I like this person... Good job, way to look at it from their point of view :D (dunno how to do a thumbs up so the smiley face will have to do)