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TK Amaterasu
01-25-2012, 01:58 PM
My highest point score was 9700 but I wanna try and be a top xbox player on the game. What is the best way to get a good score, any tips or tricks?

Chronomancy
01-25-2012, 02:18 PM
In ACR I highly recomend the OSB & Poison profile set, it always gets me those 11-12k+ scores.

PANiC_ATTACKER
01-25-2012, 04:51 PM
In ACR I highly recomend the OSB & Poison profile set, it always gets me those 11-12k+ scores.

i second this set-up! my exact set up!. at least for Assassinate, which is pretty much all I play :) . Plus you can always use the smoke as defence too ;)

utriej
01-25-2012, 05:13 PM
i second this set-up! my exact set up!. at least for Assassinate, which is pretty much all I play :) . Plus you can always use the smoke as defence too ;)

That's a good set, and I use it in Assassinate, but only once for variety bonuses. You end up having to use both to land the poison in most instances, then you're w/out any defense till the smoke comes around. Any decent player is not going to let you get a naked poison, they'll know who's comming. You're better off with something else that can be used in defense (mute, charge, firecrackers...I know, not always that reliable). I look at it this way, how often do you think you won the target lock but don't, or the other person locks you early. When I have an ability available and can't get a better kill otherwise, I go for Stun(200), acquire, Reckless(150), grounded(50), focus(150), chain (50)= 600 + any other bonuses with the kill. I'll take that all day long vs a reckless or discreet kill.
To the OP, there are numerous threads if you do a search, and a good number of tip videos in the video thread stikied to the top. Most game modes have multiple videos listed. There's almost no better way to learn from those guys that are some of the best.

TK Amaterasu
01-27-2012, 11:23 AM
Sorry, what's OSB?

RosTo_PL
01-27-2012, 01:52 PM
Sorry, what's OSB?

Offensive Smoke Bomb

AntiChrist7
01-27-2012, 04:34 PM
Sorry, what's OSB?

drop a smoke bomb near your target to get focus and then poison him.

it is risky hower cause if you got multiple persuers you are almost defenseless, and if your target spots you, and you do a smokebomb while he tries to stun, its likely you wont be able to get the focus.

ive use dit for the challenge but i just got pissed off with all those persuers (and my poison kills getting taken), so now i just have smoke and mute. I discovered that you can use mute offensivly, cause your target gets a colour. although i got stunned while using mute, still dont understand that

DeanOMiite
01-27-2012, 09:52 PM
My first thought is that it's not necessarily your score alone that determines how good you are, i'd say it's your score RELATIVE TO OTHER PLAYERS...obviously what this means is I put a lot more stock in how often you win a FFA gametype like Wanted or Deathmatch than I do in your average score. I have dropped 10K plus a bunch of times but against weak competition. I'm much more excited to put up 7000-8000 against good players than 10K against noobs. And I DO consider myself a top player, I win a very high percentage of my games and I seriously feel like I only ever finish worse than third once every 40 or 50 matches, and my Templar Grade rating in ACB got as high as 47, so I do know what I'm talking about. And my thought on good players has never necessarily been that they constantly put up huge numbers, but that they know how to control the tempo of a game.

Anyway...I KINDA support the use of OSB+poison, but not as the primary set you use for an entire game. I don't like the idea that I'll spend a large amount of time without any abilities available to me. I do feel like you need to get a focus poison at least once per game for the sake of variety bonuses, but other than that i don't like it as my primary set. Personally I don't like abilities that I can't use both offensively and defensively but that's just me.

The core of my strategy is to get two things every game: 1) Greater Variety and 2) Streak Bonus

Going for greater variety to me is just obvious. If all you're doing is racking up silent kills all game, you'll get 10 kills and only wind up with 4000-5000 pts, which isn't good enough to beat good players. You need to mix it up. The bonuses you should definitely try to get at least once are:
Reckless, Discreet, Silent, Incognito, Hidden, stun. These are the easy ones for me
I then go for acrobatic, focus, poison, honorable death.

That's 10 out of 10 bonuses for greater variety, and i figure somewhere along the way i'll pick up a random one like savior/poacher/chain/revenge/grab kill etc. So boom, greater variety, done, maybe even extreme variety.

Also worth noting, i try to go for a hidden on almost EVERY kill...300 pts is a great bonus for something that's not tough to get in deathmatch.

Streak bonus is kinda self explanitory, but because I believe you should always be going for it, I ALWAYS use kill buffer as one of my perks. So definitely use kill buffer. Whether your streak is 7 kills for 550 or 5 silent (that's the one I use) it doesn't matter, just get the streak bonus as often as possible. When I'm going good I can get it twice in a match.

Sometimes though things don't break your way, which is why your loss streak should always be double score. With kill buffer and double score, you're always working towards either a streak bonus or a double score...and when you get to double score, thats when you go for another focus poison...that tacks on 700 pts to your score when you're on double score.

As for abilities, seriously I vary mine up...i have three sets for deathmatch...one as I said is smoke bomb/poison...need to get that stuff for variety. I also use a super defensive set of disguise/bodyguard...this keeps me alive while I go for streak bonuses...also, bodyguard gets you plenty of lures so its good for variety AND if you use it in traffic situations where you have heavy whispers, multiple pursuers AND a nearby target, you can get in and out of that situation with a kill AND actually stay alive...so big stuff there. And I also have my "defensive scoring" class which is smoke and tripwire bomb...yes, tripwire bomb. Mute is obviously GREAT for stunning people, better than smoke in my opinion. And tripwire bomb is great because if you're playing well and leading, you have plenty of people coming after you, so you just find a static blend group in the corner of a map, preferable not next to a roof, and wait by the bomb, and you can get a stun easily because NOBODY ever suspects it.

This is what I do every single game of deathmatch and I win a LOT of my games. I won't always score as high as some of the others who consider themselves top players, but I don't have to score 10K to win and winning is all I'm going for. My strategy is just get a lead early (focus poison) and play defense. If I've got 3 pursuers and one target, counting myself, I've got a tangible effect on MORE than half the game. So by playing defensively when I have three pursuers, GENERALLY what I'm doing is making it so nobody else is scoring. In effect, i'm nursing my lead. And if I have three pursuers who are coming after me, theres a better than 50% chance that my target is after one of them, so usually my target will come to me...so i'll very frequently get something like stun-stun-hidden-incognito-chain without even thinking about it. That's 1100 points without moving a muscle.

So all i'm saying is...it's not about putting up 5 digit scores, it's about controlling the pace of the game. Control the pace, win the match...easy as pie.

DeanOMiite
01-27-2012, 09:57 PM
drop a smoke bomb near your target to get focus and then poison him.

it is risky hower cause if you got multiple persuers you are almost defenseless, and if your target spots you, and you do a smokebomb while he tries to stun, its likely you wont be able to get the focus.

ive use dit for the challenge but i just got pissed off with all those persuers (and my poison kills getting taken), so now i just have smoke and mute. I discovered that you can use mute offensivly, cause your target gets a colour. although i got stunned while using mute, still dont understand that

To avoid what you're talking about with the smoke poison there...craft your abilities so that you have long lasting smoke and fast acting poison. Typically I prefer rapid reload abilities but with these two, no way. Long lasting smoke is a MUST for getting focus kills, and fast acting poison cuts the kill time in half. 6.5 seconds is a looooong time for your target to walk around and not get killed by someone else. Also, i suggest you NOT poison targets with multiple pursuers. There are a lot of times where I feel like if I get intercepted, it's my own **** fault haha

Moi-dix-Mois43
02-06-2012, 07:48 PM
You'll never make it to the top, cause of boosters -___- Welcome to real life.

FilipinoNinja67
02-06-2012, 08:02 PM
Sorry, what's OSB?

OSB is what players use to earn a focused hidden poison... Even though they werent hidden because they revealed themselves when they threw their smoke bomb and they dont disserve the focus since you sat there for five seconds mashing B.

Moi-dix-Mois43
02-06-2012, 11:52 PM
OSB stands for Offensive Smoke Bomb. Like Andrew said, it's pretty unfair, because (especially with the throwing in Revelations now) there is essentially no way to guard against it.

Mc Dudes
02-07-2012, 12:20 AM
Try smoke mute in assassinate!

najzere
02-07-2012, 12:23 AM
This is a perfect example of "Don't hate the player, hate the game." If there weren't contested kils and a stun prompt, OSB wouldn't be necessary (although I'm sure some would still use it, as they did in Brotherhood). You can blame the developers for increasing the ease of defending, which had the natural consequence of forcing offense to compensate for the additional risk.

FilipinoNinja67
02-07-2012, 04:43 AM
This is a perfect example of "Don't hate the player, hate the game." If there weren't contested kils and a stun prompt, OSB wouldn't be necessary (although I'm sure some would still use it, as they did in Brotherhood). You can blame the developers for increasing the ease of defending, which had the natural consequence of forcing offense to compensate for the additional risk.

Its not the games fault that players are cheap. What you just posted was the dumbest thing ive ever read and ive seen a picture of a unicorn spraying mayonaise out of its horn with the words unicomayo right next to it... I dont mind OSB, until you depend on it for every kill. I can name only one person that has beaten me with it and is pretty good without it and thats rushdown and he wasnt cheap with it. The rest just reduce my games and i end up winning with measly 7k every game. And what you just posted is like saying dont blame the gangmember, its the toy companys fault for making the bat that he hit you with... No its the gang members fault for not using it to play the game right...

Edit: im not saying using OSB isnt the right way to play, but if you need it for every kill then you need to learn how to play...

Chronomancy
02-07-2012, 05:11 AM
Ah, k so I score constant 11k+ with OSB but I need to learn to play yeah?

OSB is avaliable to everyone stop complaining and use it.

This game is simple you hit R2-L2 to use abilities this game hardly requires any ACTUAL skill when comparing it to lets say World of Warcraft or any type of MMO.

Look at the points they score not the playstyle...

This is nearly as bad as T3mplar Vis0n is for n00bz.

KuraiNight
02-07-2012, 05:18 AM
ah, k so i score constant 11k+ with osb but i need to learn to play yeah?

Osb is avaliable to everyone stop complaining and use it.

This game is simple you hit r2-r1 to use abilities this game hardly requires any actual skill when comparing it to lets say world of warcraft or any type of mmo.

Look at the points they score not the playstyle...

This is nearly as bad as t3mplar vis0n is for n00bz.

:D I agree.

FilipinoNinja67
02-07-2012, 05:20 AM
Ah, k so I score constant 11k+ with OSB but I need to learn to play yeah?

OSB is avaliable to everyone stop complaining and use it.

This game is simple you hit R2-R1 to use abilities this game hardly requires any ACTUAL skill when comparing it to lets say World of Warcraft or any type of MMO.

Look at the points they score not the playstyle...

are you having trouble reading? Im pretty sure I said "If you NEED it for EVERY kill THEN you need to learn how to play" Im so sick of this, i dealt with the same kinda people back on the conviction forums.... People need to go back to first grade.... O_O. Yeah OSB is available to everyone but so is viagra and most people dont need to use that to get their scores up but some people do... (Lol and please dont take any of the above seriously, just tryin to mess around because i cant be a doosh anywhere else without getting punched in the face... Which reminds me of my lunch table today... Ow...)

Edit: you are right though, it is a valid tactic and is available to me but i dont think its fun to use (like mute) and i think it takes away from the game so i dont use it then i go on the internet and complain... Which is also available to everyone and doesnt take away the purpose of anything.... Xcept mabye the internet. I dont like being a hypocrite so i try not to be one because i think its unfair... Like Offensive smoke bomb :)

The_Despair_
02-07-2012, 05:29 AM
If you were close enough to get OSB'd, you were close enough to die anyway. If you knew your pursuer was coming and the pursuer knew their target had spotted them, do you really blame them for using their smokebomb offensively? Quit complaining and get used to it. I'm not going to waste my time getting a contested kill if I have the opportunity to get a 900 point kill.

FilipinoNinja67
02-07-2012, 05:39 AM
If you were close enough to get OSB'd, you were close enough to die anyway. If you knew your pursuer was coming and the pursuer knew their target had spotted them, do you really blame them for using their smokebomb offensively? Quit complaining and get used to it. I'm not going to waste my time getting a contested kill if I have the opportunity to get a 900 point kill.

Okay... Go into a candy store and just take a chocolate bar because you dont wanna waste your time using your money and see what happens... The whole point of a contested kill is to reduce the persuers score when they arent being stealthy... Now please explain to me how dropping a smokebomb when i have been watching you ever since you turned the corner and i still see opyou when your focusing the silent poison and hidden in the smoke cloud im choking on is stealthy in any way... Assassins creed is a STEALTH action game and using OSB is neither stealthy or very actiony in the way that it is used. I dont mind getting OSB'd so you can get the silent kill... But when you stand their and focus the poison then walk away like i didnt know it was you is just rediculous. I think i posted this somewhere else... I wouldnt mind as much getting shot in the big toe rather then getting shot in the heart, breaking it... Think about the puppies... That i have to drop kick across my lawn because of OSB! What you are doing is going around saying your "borrowing" from someone but you never give it back... Its still stealing and its still bad.

Edit: since i know how stoopid you iz when i was talking about hidden i meant how do you earn the hidden bonus when there is a giant smoke cloud around you and you are definitly not hidden because it gives you away. I almost hate OSB as much as DSB...

FilipinoNinja67
02-07-2012, 05:45 AM
Ah, k so I score constant 11k+ with OSB but I need to learn to play yeah?

OSB is avaliable to everyone stop complaining and use it.

This game is simple you hit R2-L2 to use abilities this game hardly requires any ACTUAL skill when comparing it to lets say World of Warcraft or any type of MMO.

Look at the points they score not the playstyle...

This is nearly as bad as T3mplar Vis0n is for n00bz.

This goes along perfectly... Templar vision has nothing wrong with it... Its the tards that sprint around lighting themselves up like christmas trees. Smokebomb is fine... Except for the tards running around and having to use smoke bomb for every target they get.

FilipinoNinja67
02-07-2012, 05:46 AM
OSB stands for Offensive Smoke Bomb. Like Andrew said, it's pretty unfair, because (especially with the throwing in Revelations now) there is essentially no way to guard against it.

can i just say that i love you?

Chronomancy
02-07-2012, 05:54 AM
Love these trippple posts.

FilipinoNinja67
02-07-2012, 06:00 AM
Love these trippple posts.

Why are you talking about something that is irrelevant to the debate that we are were having? Is it because of my viagra analogy?

TaRabidWesmann
02-07-2012, 06:02 AM
What is this thread now? Troll bait?

Chronomancy
02-07-2012, 06:03 AM
This is hardly a debate, i've already won.

FilipinoNinja67
02-07-2012, 06:03 AM
What is this thread now? Troll bait?

Please explain, what is a troll?

FilipinoNinja67
02-07-2012, 06:05 AM
This is hardly a debate, i've already won.

Youre right, you have definitly countered my points with your last post "love these trippple posts" this is hardly a debate, I'VE already won :)

TaRabidWesmann
02-07-2012, 06:06 AM
*Grabs popcorn and Coke*

Chronomancy
02-07-2012, 06:07 AM
"This is not the argument you are looking for".

FilipinoNinja67
02-07-2012, 06:12 AM
"This is not the argument you are looking for".

I wasnt looking for an arguement, you were the one started it and you are still in denial of your defeat from the viagra analogy. It might have been the way i read it in which case im sorry for wasting your time, but im pretty sure i did read it the right way. Have you even recognized any of the valid points ive made? Or were you too busy shaken with awe at my name? But come on... You cant say that you didnt laugh one time during the debate (that I won :P)

Chronomancy
02-07-2012, 06:13 AM
*Force Choke*

That is all.

TaRabidWesmann
02-07-2012, 06:14 AM
Thats rude.

FilipinoNinja67
02-07-2012, 06:17 AM
*Force Choke*

That is all.

Come on at least end it the right way..... Lightning electro hands going off as i throw you down the pit! Wait i got that wrong didnt i... Oh well i was close but bein forealz did you seriously not see any of my points?

Chronomancy
02-07-2012, 06:19 AM
UNLIMITED POWER!!!

No, I don't read much on here anymore as you can see the old members have left so nothing is really worth reading.

FilipinoNinja67
02-07-2012, 06:24 AM
UNLIMITED POWER!!!

No, I don't read much on here anymore as you can see the old members have left so nothing is really worth reading.

(sad face) im actually pretty new to the AC forums, i used to be on the conviction forums to which i would complain about all the people that would play it like it was call of duty and ruin the fun for me. Crap i didnt mean for it to sound like i was implying anything *cough* *choke*... Weird i just all of a sudden had a cough that converted to textual language... Hmmmmmm. No but seriously i would like to actually talk to someone and see how they feel about my points... You just gotta look under all of the well constructed fun jokes and they are there.


Now i feel sorry for the op... My awesomeness takes up too much room. One tactic that i always love to use is Offensive Smoke Bomb on every single one of my targets... I cant get a kill without it. Thank you ubi! :P

KuraiNight
02-07-2012, 06:26 AM
This is entertaining.

Chronomancy
02-07-2012, 06:29 AM
Go kai go!

FilipinoNinja67
02-07-2012, 06:30 AM
This is entertaining.

I know right! I want someone to come on here that doesnt like OSB to read that post....

KuraiNight
02-07-2012, 06:30 AM
Andrew, may I ask where in the world is located Flarida? Sounds like an interesting place.

Chronomancy
02-07-2012, 06:31 AM
Omg samez tell us andrew.

TaRabidWesmann
02-07-2012, 06:33 AM
What is this "staying on topic" and "reading" you guys speak of? Is that some ancient,forbidden art? Or is it a sandwich?

FilipinoNinja67
02-07-2012, 06:34 AM
Andrew, may I ask where in the world is located Flarida? Sounds like an interesting place.

Its actually west of switzerland ( the birthplace of unicorns as some know it by) and its a really beautiful place too with loads of hot chicks that i dont talk to because they give me rashes but it also has beautiful beaches from what ive heard ( never been outside of my room ). But yeah you just keep going west until you fall off the side of the earth ( i also read a lot of wikipedia and have an A in geography! )

FilipinoNinja67
02-07-2012, 06:34 AM
What is this "staying on topic" and "reading" you guys speak of? Is that some ancient,forbidden art? Or is it a sandwich?

I do want a pogo stick wesmann, thank you soo much for the offer!

FilipinoNinja67
02-07-2012, 06:43 AM
I gotta go everyone, its my bed time. Goodnight everyone! No not you chronomancy... Yeah i gotta get up in 5 hours, oh boy

FilipinoNinja67
02-07-2012, 06:46 AM
One more thing, i cant wait for this dude to come back lookin for some awesome tactics and he sees. Viagra, puppies, unicomayo, and fladargen...

TaRabidWesmann
02-07-2012, 06:48 AM
The only reason Andrew didn't wish you goodnight Chrom is because he's never spoken to a girl XD

FilipinoNinja67
02-07-2012, 06:51 AM
The only reason Andrew didn't wish you goodnight Chrom is because he's never spoken to a girl XD

My mommy says they have cooties... Lol im so glad i have seventh period nap tim- i mean spanish 2. Ill be back during sixth perio- i mean after ive done all my homework and chores because im an angel... Thats why my name is Andrew!

TaRabidWesmann
02-07-2012, 06:56 AM
Well,this has been fun.Im off to bed,night everybody.

KuraiNight
02-07-2012, 06:59 AM
I'm a girl.
DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN
Oh about Flarida, Thats exactly the place I was thinking about.

FilipinoNinja67
02-07-2012, 01:45 PM
My first thought is that it's not necessarily your score alone that determines how good you are, i'd say it's your score RELATIVE TO OTHER PLAYERS...obviously what this means is I put a lot more stock in how often you win a FFA gametype like Wanted or Deathmatch than I do in your average score. I have dropped 10K plus a bunch of times but against weak competition. I'm much more excited to put up 7000-8000 against good players than 10K against noobs. And I DO consider myself a top player, I win a very high percentage of my games and I seriously feel like I only ever finish worse than third once every 40 or 50 matches, and my Templar Grade rating in ACB got as high as 47, so I do know what I'm talking about. And my thought on good players has never necessarily been that they constantly put up huge numbers, but that they know how to control the tempo of a game.

Anyway...I KINDA support the use of OSB+poison, but not as the primary set you use for an entire game. I don't like the idea that I'll spend a large amount of time without any abilities available to me. I do feel like you need to get a focus poison at least once per game for the sake of variety bonuses, but other than that i don't like it as my primary set. Personally I don't like abilities that I can't use both offensively and defensively but that's just me.

The core of my strategy is to get two things every game: 1) Greater Variety and 2) Streak Bonus

Going for greater variety to me is just obvious. If all you're doing is racking up silent kills all game, you'll get 10 kills and only wind up with 4000-5000 pts, which isn't good enough to beat good players. You need to mix it up. The bonuses you should definitely try to get at least once are:
Reckless, Discreet, Silent, Incognito, Hidden, stun. These are the easy ones for me
I then go for acrobatic, focus, poison, honorable death.

That's 10 out of 10 bonuses for greater variety, and i figure somewhere along the way i'll pick up a random one like savior/poacher/chain/revenge/grab kill etc. So boom, greater variety, done, maybe even extreme variety.

Also worth noting, i try to go for a hidden on almost EVERY kill...300 pts is a great bonus for something that's not tough to get in deathmatch.

Streak bonus is kinda self explanitory, but because I believe you should always be going for it, I ALWAYS use kill buffer as one of my perks. So definitely use kill buffer. Whether your streak is 7 kills for 550 or 5 silent (that's the one I use) it doesn't matter, just get the streak bonus as often as possible. When I'm going good I can get it twice in a match.

Sometimes though things don't break your way, which is why your loss streak should always be double score. With kill buffer and double score, you're always working towards either a streak bonus or a double score...and when you get to double score, thats when you go for another focus poison...that tacks on 700 pts to your score when you're on double score.

As for abilities, seriously I vary mine up...i have three sets for deathmatch...one as I said is smoke bomb/poison...need to get that stuff for variety. I also use a super defensive set of disguise/bodyguard...this keeps me alive while I go for streak bonuses...also, bodyguard gets you plenty of lures so its good for variety AND if you use it in traffic situations where you have heavy whispers, multiple pursuers AND a nearby target, you can get in and out of that situation with a kill AND actually stay alive...so big stuff there. And I also have my "defensive scoring" class which is smoke and tripwire bomb...yes, tripwire bomb. Mute is obviously GREAT for stunning people, better than smoke in my opinion. And tripwire bomb is great because if you're playing well and leading, you have plenty of people coming after you, so you just find a static blend group in the corner of a map, preferable not next to a roof, and wait by the bomb, and you can get a stun easily because NOBODY ever suspects it.

This is what I do every single game of deathmatch and I win a LOT of my games. I won't always score as high as some of the others who consider themselves top players, but I don't have to score 10K to win and winning is all I'm going for. My strategy is just get a lead early (focus poison) and play defense. If I've got 3 pursuers and one target, counting myself, I've got a tangible effect on MORE than half the game. So by playing defensively when I have three pursuers, GENERALLY what I'm doing is making it so nobody else is scoring. In effect, i'm nursing my lead. And if I have three pursuers who are coming after me, theres a better than 50% chance that my target is after one of them, so usually my target will come to me...so i'll very frequently get something like stun-stun-hidden-incognito-chain without even thinking about it. That's 1100 points without moving a muscle.

So all i'm saying is...it's not about putting up 5 digit scores, it's about controlling the pace of the game. Control the pace, win the match...easy as pie.

what you said at the beginning... You dont need OSB for variety in deathmatch... I get it all the time without it and its still pretty easy.

Moi-dix-Mois43
02-07-2012, 05:15 PM
I love how this conversation exploded :D

@najzere I kinda agree, smoke bomb never needed to be used so much in ACB, but thanks to noob-friendly acr, a lot of people need to use OSB...

@Andrew I'm too lazy to re-read all your arguments, but I COMPLETELY agree with "if you need osb for every kill then you need to learn how to play" There are some people left on ACB who can't score worth a crap without OSB.

@Chronomancy I know you love OSB, but I also know you can play without it. You just use it because you prefer it, you don't NEED it to score.

FilipinoNinja67
02-07-2012, 07:16 PM
I love how this conversation exploded :D

@najzere I kinda agree, smoke bomb never needed to be used so much in ACB, but thanks to noob-friendly acr, a lot of people need to use OSB...

@Andrew I'm too lazy to re-read all your arguments, but I COMPLETELY agree with "if you need osb for every kill then you need to learn how to play" There are some people left on ACB who can't score worth a crap without OSB.

@Chronomancy I know you love OSB, but I also know you can play without it. You just use it because you prefer it, you don't NEED it to score.

At least go back and read my viagra analogy

luckyto
02-07-2012, 08:46 PM
unicomayo ... heh.

najzere
02-07-2012, 09:53 PM
This thread is funny. "Don't use something in the game because I don't like it!" Andrew116, please add me (PSN: najzere) so I can see if you're as incompetent at Deathmatch as you are at using and interpreting analogies.

lRushdown
02-07-2012, 10:15 PM
najzere - Andrew's on xbox and is very good at deathmatch. This community in general just seems to tolerate made-up rules and honor codes and whatnot for some reason. Anyway, you already know you don't have to play to please anyone else, don't worry about it :)

livevil6633
02-07-2012, 10:30 PM
you want to add points to your score use your cooldown times to your advantage.

starting set poison/smoke get teh OSB focus poison then most likely die within a few seconds. switch to disguise/smoke it cuts the cool down time off as disguise with 2 points on cooldown is quick as hell. and play with that bounce back and forth cutting you times off it will give you abilities available more often all through the match.

najzere
02-07-2012, 10:46 PM
@lRushdown (http://forums.ubi.com/member.php/1104166-lRushdown): Well I'm surprised to hear a good player complaining about a specific tactic, since usually only players that get routinely beat by it do that.

@Andrew116 (http://forums.ubi.com/member.php/514015-Andrew116): Did you think Disguise+Poison was "cheap" in ACB? :p

E-Zekiel
02-07-2012, 11:51 PM
Leaderboards don't really demonstrate a legitimate level of skill. And even for those with legitimate rankings...it's more of a rank against typical players. Every good player has different strengths, Put them in a match together and see who is really good :)

FilipinoNinja67
02-08-2012, 03:44 AM
@lRushdown (http://forums.ubi.com/member.php/1104166-lRushdown): Well I'm surprised to hear a good player complaining about a specific tactic, since usually only players that get routinely beat by it do that.

@Andrew116 (http://forums.ubi.com/member.php/514015-Andrew116): Did you think Disguise+Poison was "cheap" in ACB? :p

After playing ACR yes i do, especially with disupguise giving the hidden bonus, the way i used it i was usually not detected but people could use it in ******ed ways... plus the stun range being the same as the poison range yeah that class would be cheap...

Also rushdown is one of two OSB'ers thats has beaten me on deathmatch... I still come on top but its still annoying... Just like arguing with a five year old, they only irritate you while you put a verbal smackdown upon them. One thing i do love about OSB though is talkin some smack to those that loose to me when they use it and makin them realize that i am the ultimate swag daddy pimp!

FilipinoNinja67
02-08-2012, 04:52 AM
This thread is funny. "Don't use something in the game because I don't like it!" Andrew116, please add me (PSN: najzere) so I can see if you're as incompetent at Deathmatch as you are at using and interpreting analogies.

Oh yeah! My highest score in deathmatch is 15k! Which proves a lot because that means i can exploit newbies! Leaderboards are messed up.... Anyway what is wrong with me voicing my opinion in a dooshy way on the internet? You have the same ability available to you so why dont you bandwagon it and lets all be dooshes on the internet!..... And use OSB! :P

deadly_thought
02-08-2012, 06:09 AM
You'll never make it to the top, cause of boosters -___- Welcome to real life.


this

also osb poison should be worked with another set up get two or three poison kills and focus on making hidden kills and getting variety bonuses if you want 12k+ learn to stun the **** out of ppl youll need 10 or more per session id also reccomend a good steak set up to suit your play style i go with 3 kill streak it comes up more often then 5 or 7 netting you more points over all especially if your landing that many stuns

have fun

najzere
02-08-2012, 08:42 AM
Oh yeah! My highest score in deathmatch is 15k! Which proves a lot because that means i can exploit newbies! Leaderboards are messed up.... Anyway what is wrong with me voicing my opinion in a dooshy way on the internet? You have the same ability available to you so why dont you bandwagon it and lets all be dooshes on the internet!..... And use OSB! :P
I'll continue to use whatever gets me the most points, regardless of what it is. On some maps it's smoke poison, on some it's disguise poison, and I have a special setup for Mont St. Michel. The only map I haven't figured out is Knight's Hospital, which I either do great on or terribad. Bottom line, as long as it works I'll use it and I won't get mad at anything anyone else uses, although I do wonder about gunners/runners that come in last, because c'mon why are you even playing this game?

FilipinoNinja67
02-08-2012, 01:35 PM
I'll continue to use whatever gets me the most points, regardless of what it is. On some maps it's smoke poison, on some it's disguise poison, and I have a special setup for Mont St. Michel. The only map I haven't figured out is Knight's Hospital, which I either do great on or terribad. Bottom line, as long as it works I'll use it and I won't get mad at anything anyone else uses, although I do wonder about gunners/runners that come in last, because c'mon why are you even playing this game?

How come in every game i play, doesnt matter if its soccer or assassins creed.... I am always the only person that cares about fun. In soccer whenever we would loose to a good team everyone freaks out.. i dont mind loosing to a good team but when we loose to a team that does nothing but sit nin the back witht heir thumbs up their arses ima be mad. The thing with osb is that so many bad players run around with their thumbs up their arses... I know most of the people on these forums only use it enough to just get that soccer shorts wedgie out but too manhy other players never stop digging!

deadly_thought
02-08-2012, 02:33 PM
How come in every game i play, doesnt matter if its soccer or assassins creed.... I am always the only person that cares about fun. In soccer whenever we would loose to a good team everyone freaks out.. i dont mind loosing to a good team but when we loose to a team that does nothing but sit nin the back witht heir thumbs up their arses ima be mad. The thing with osb is that so many bad players run around with their thumbs up their arses... I know most of the people on these forums only use it enough to just get that soccer shorts wedgie out but too manhy other players never stop digging!

there are two words that are responsible for the high level of osb attacks

'stun prompt'

remove the prompt keep the range allow the poison allow the focus and voila 70% of osb attacks are gone as it stands now stun prompt range is ruining the ability to poison and focus its ruining the ability to move into the same blend group as your target for a hidden bonus

worse still you cant do all three at once wich is why players are resorting to bombing the blend group first then standing over their target focusing and poisoning you cant blame the players for maximising their scores blame ubisoft for trying to make sure they cant because 'it isnt fair on the noobs'

if they had an advanced training simulation we wouldnt need to osb cause we wouldnt need to have a big red warning light dangling over our heads everytime we try to kill someone and noobs might even stand a chance of detecting people without the prompt

i should also point out that osb isnt osb anymore the amount of times ive used it to dodge someone trying to stun me is about the same as ive dodge someone trying to stab me theres no difference in that as far as im concerned

FilipinoNinja67
02-08-2012, 03:04 PM
there are two words that are responsible for the high level of osb attacks

'stun prompt'

remove the prompt keep the range allow the poison allow the focus and voila 70% of osb attacks are gone as it stands now stun prompt range is ruining the ability to poison and focus its ruining the ability to move into the same blend group as your target for a hidden bonus

worse still you cant do all three at once wich is why players are resorting to bombing the blend group first then standing over their target focusing and poisoning you cant blame the players for maximising their scores blame ubisoft for trying to make sure they cant because 'it isnt fair on the noobs'

if they had an advanced training simulation we wouldnt need to osb cause we wouldnt need to have a big red warning light dangling over our heads everytime we try to kill someone and noobs might even stand a chance of detecting people without the prompt

i should also point out that osb isnt osb anymore the amount of times ive used it to dodge someone trying to stun me is about the same as ive dodge someone trying to stab me theres no difference in that as far as im concerned
That last part is fine, i dont mind that... Im talking about sitting in the smoke you throw for five seconds and poisoning... Thats cheap. And like i said, i wont mind if your just picking that soccer wedgie out for the variety. The thing i dont get is most people say they do it for the variety but every 1/4 games i land extreme variety... It isnt that hard, i dont think you guys have tried without OSB...

Gahran
02-08-2012, 03:09 PM
Choose poison and disguise. Turn on disguise and poison your target. Do it incognito and youll have a 200 points bonus.

luckyto
02-08-2012, 04:17 PM
That last part is fine, i dont mind that... Im talking about sitting in the smoke you throw for five seconds and poisoning... Thats cheap. And like i said, i wont mind if your just picking that soccer wedgie out for the variety. The thing i dont get is most people say they do it for the variety but every 1/4 games i land extreme variety... It isnt that hard, i dont think you guys have tried without OSB...

I'm getting better at landing greater variety without it. I use it once a match, sometimes, not even that. Still, I'm learning - and can use the help.

Honestly, I don't really see the problem. It's a legitimate tactic that has a serious downside to using it as you are left defenseless. Personally, I prefer keeping my defense.

Just out of curiosity, what set do you use in DM?

FilipinoNinja67
02-08-2012, 04:39 PM
I'm getting better at landing greater variety without it. I use it once a match, sometimes, not even that. Still, I'm learning - and can use the help.

Honestly, I don't really see the problem. It's a legitimate tactic that has a serious downside to using it as you are left defenseless. Personally, I prefer keeping my defense.

Just out of curiosity, what set do you use in DM?

I use Disguise/Smoke 5 silent boost cooldowns, disguise/poison 5 silent. Score x2, hidden gun/ smoke (my anti osb class that i use on osb'ers to OSB them then hidden gun them and.i try to do it whenever i see them throw a smoke but sometimes i miss it...). I switch the other two classes around and use them also just to change up the game... Smoke/knives, bodygaurd/decoy, morph/decoy, disguise/knives...

Edit: by miss it i meant miss getting the savior bonus as i was too late... Not missing my smokebomb throw...

luckyto
02-08-2012, 05:38 PM
I had written off disguise, but I'm really starting to like it. What do you craft it to? Long lasting or fast reload?

FilipinoNinja67
02-08-2012, 06:04 PM
I had written off disguise, but I'm really starting to like it. What do you craft it to? Long lasting or fast reload?


Visibility.. i use disguise in every mode except assassinate and its always useful. And im not sure about this but does it seem like the detection meter builds up faster when youre disguised?

luckyto
02-08-2012, 06:09 PM
Visibility.. i use disguise in every mode except assassinate and its always useful. And im not sure about this but does it seem like the detection meter builds up faster when youre disguised?


Visibility... why? What does that do?

FilipinoNinja67
02-08-2012, 07:34 PM
Visibility... why? What does that do?

Im still trying to find out... O_O.

najzere
02-08-2012, 09:04 PM
Visibility reduces the disguise animation so it's faster and more subtle. I craft everything to reload faster except poison, which I craft to score.

I rarely get extreme variety and don't care if I do. I'd rather get a focus, hidden, incognito, poison kill. It's worth more than extreme variety and I can do it multiple times in a session.

luckyto
02-08-2012, 09:35 PM
I usually balance, but disguise I have at long-lasting - I'm considering changing. And smoke. I switched my smoke to long-lasting and couldn't be happier. Seems like once a match, I'm in smoke bomb battle hell... and I want to be **** sure that if I'm using an ability that I get my stun or kill off. Especially for multiple pursuers. Stunning two or three pursuers from one smoke is heaven.

Moi-dix-Mois43
02-08-2012, 11:42 PM
can i just say that i love you?

I don't love you :( But we have a mutual hate of OSB. *pats Andrew's head*

FilipinoNinja67
02-08-2012, 11:48 PM
I don't love you :( But we have a mutual hate of OSB. *pats Andrew's head*

I understand... It's cuz im Filipino! Well just hope you know youre getting removed! but before that could you please accept this friend request im about to send you? :D

Moi-dix-Mois43
02-19-2012, 03:48 AM
I never got a friend request ;__; If you mean on the PSN, then there's an underscore between Mois and 43 :D Moi-dix-Mois_43

FilipinoNinja67
02-28-2012, 05:16 AM
I found out yesterday that firecrackers are actually pretty bawss status...

luckyto
02-28-2012, 03:52 PM
I found out yesterday that firecrackers are actually pretty bawss status...

Details... por favor. I need a change. I'm looking for new tactics.... time to shake things up because people are getting accustomed to the old tricks.

FilipinoNinja67
02-28-2012, 03:58 PM
The same as last game,whenever you use it defensively you have to be around a group of people and move yourself to the back while your persuer mashes X and he will kill a random, or if he is not mashin x and is waiting for his eyesight to comeback you can make him blackout by making the first thing he sees is your fist.

Offensively its used to make them panic, so for modes like manhunt if they have cornered themselves you can coordinate with your teamates and have them covering the exists and while you go in to set it in motion.

The range on it is pretty big and theres probably more ways to use it...

luckyto
02-28-2012, 04:03 PM
I never played the last game ;) What do you craft it for? Rapid Reload?

FilipinoNinja67
02-28-2012, 04:15 PM
I dont have craft yet because i lost my xbox live account due to messed up billing info :( so i made a new one with a completely new name (FilipinoNinja67) and i have been using the default disguise/firecrackers set for 8 games and now im a level 17 :D so i dont have crafting yet but i should be able to get it today.. i would probably start with 1 RR and 1 Range or 1 Duration and 1 Range for the blinding effect.