View Full Version : Realistic aerodynamics in 1946 (Ta-183 and He-162D)

12-27-2006, 01:50 PM
Right now the He-162D is completely unrealistic at speed (due to wing rigidity) and the Ta-183 lacks a tendancy for flutter in high-speed flight. (Additionally the Bi-6 lacks some stability problems it should have had)

I personally would rather have an artificial speed cap and experience these aircraft as a real test pilot might have.

Why not have a second more realistic version?<form action="http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums" method="POST" name="VOTE">

12-27-2006, 02:06 PM
Real test pilots have artificial speed caps? What color? What type of cap? Baseball cap?
Hey, is my unreal more unreal than your unreal?

Where you get your knowing how those planes should behave?

12-27-2006, 02:18 PM
What's an "artificial speed cap"? Does it hurt? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Sounds cool. I want one. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

12-27-2006, 07:04 PM
Wind tunnel test revealed the flutter problems and both development teams, Heinkel and FW, changed their design or rejected it accordingly to solve the problems.
However, the teams around Ilya and Oleg decided to solve the problem by using other (not historical) means in order to "keep the famous shape".

Not what I would have liked to see, but that's the way it is. Just accept it. At high speeds, the Ta183 is not exactly stable anyway and it easily looses it's wings.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">


"Misconceptions about the Luftwaffe [...] are, in large part, simply caused by a lack of basic skills of many, who write about the Luftwaffe. For some inexplicable reason, many historians - especially Americans - believe they can write books about the German army or the German air force without knowing German"
Dr. J.S.Corum, LTC USAF, Strategic Studies Institute

12-30-2006, 02:38 PM
Once again the game is supposed to extend into the bit surreal. Oleg and 1c know all this, the problem is that if we put those limitations on the aircraft they will pretty much be useless.

The Ta-183 in its current form would never have been mass produced, even if the war did drag etc. etc. because of these reason. It was limited to 700kph which we would make it meat and potatoes for the propfighters nevermind Allied jets that would have been in the fray as well...

Same with the He-162 it would have had a very low Limit Load Factor making and maximum speed making it pretty much useless too.

On the other hand, the Russian jets have a similar handicap which is overlooked... that being they were powered by engines which were basically copied from captured German engines.

Nevermind the Lerche...

Oleg said himself its supposed to be fantasy and fun, not really that realistic.