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Wildnoob
01-09-2009, 01:08 PM
hello everybody!

I like to fly the I-16, it's a very nice aircraft that can perform excellent acrobatic maneuvers. but I have a problem with it, that is control the aircraft with full power. the aicraft don't have elevator trim, and at higher speeds the tendency of put the nose up is a issue for me. a thing that I discovery is that to trim it for cruize fligth it's very easy, you just need to lower the trottle and maintein it at altitude you want that the plane will stay. yesterday I manage to fly for long time with the variometer stucked on the 0. excellent stability and easly to trimm. but if I put 100 % of trottle on level fligth on the other hand I have to compensate the tendecy of the nose go upy by making forward pressure with the stick, but is at point that bring problems to aerial gunnery.

please, if someone can respond to me, this also happen in real life ?

if have one, is there some way to compensate this tendency of the nose get up at higher speed ?

since now thank you very much for everyone that at least acessed this topic.

Wildnoob
01-09-2009, 01:08 PM
hello everybody!

I like to fly the I-16, it's a very nice aircraft that can perform excellent acrobatic maneuvers. but I have a problem with it, that is control the aircraft with full power. the aicraft don't have elevator trim, and at higher speeds the tendency of put the nose up is a issue for me. a thing that I discovery is that to trim it for cruize fligth it's very easy, you just need to lower the trottle and maintein it at altitude you want that the plane will stay. yesterday I manage to fly for long time with the variometer stucked on the 0. excellent stability and easly to trimm. but if I put 100 % of trottle on level fligth on the other hand I have to compensate the tendecy of the nose go upy by making forward pressure with the stick, but is at point that bring problems to aerial gunnery.

please, if someone can respond to me, this also happen in real life ?

if have one, is there some way to compensate this tendency of the nose get up at higher speed ?

since now thank you very much for everyone that at least acessed this topic.

b2spirita
01-09-2009, 01:16 PM
It was this way in real life and theres not much you can do - you just have to hold the stick forward like the real pilots did

From wikipedia

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">A 1939 government study found that I-16 had exhausted its performance potential. Addition of armor, radio, battery, and flaps during the aircraft's evolution exacerbated the rear weight distribution to the point where the aircraft required considerable forward pressure on the stick to maintain level flight and at the same time developed a tendency to enter uncontrolled dives. Extension and retraction of the landing flaps caused a dramatic change in the aircraft attitude. Accurate gunfire was difficult. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wildnoob
01-09-2009, 01:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by b2spirita:
It was this way in real life and theres not much you can do - you just have to hold the stick forward like the real pilots did

From wikipedia

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">A 1939 government study found that I-16 had exhausted its performance potential. Addition of armor, radio, battery, and flaps during the aircraft's evolution exacerbated the rear weight distribution to the point where the aircraft required considerable forward pressure on the stick to maintain level flight and at the same time developed a tendency to enter uncontrolled dives. Extension and retraction of the landing flaps caused a dramatic change in the aircraft attitude. Accurate gunfire was difficult. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

wow, thank you very much b2spirita!

I already had read this article but not all, and now that you posted it I read all of it.

well, my doubth is solved and now I have confirmation that was the reality of the aicraft's handling.

really thanks buddy!

stalkervision
01-09-2009, 01:59 PM
you could always roll it upside down for a bit.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Wildnoob
01-09-2009, 02:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stalkervision:
you could always roll it upside down for a bit.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

tested and aproved! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

really thanks for this excellent sugestion stalkervision!

stalkervision
01-09-2009, 02:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Wildnoob:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stalkervision:
you could always roll it upside down for a bit.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

tested and aproved! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

really thanks for this excellent sugestion stalkervision! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You welcome buddy. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I use this on the 109 when I don't want to play around with the elevator trim in a steep dive.