View Full Version : P-38 "Glacier Girl" question

06-30-2009, 07:50 AM
Anybody have any clue what model p-38 this is?

06-30-2009, 07:50 AM
Anybody have any clue what model p-38 this is?

06-30-2009, 08:07 AM
It's a P-38F http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

From http://findarticles.com/p/arti..._200402/ai_n9354462/ (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3897/is_200402/ai_n9354462/)

"As Glacier Girl is a P-38F, it differs from the J and L models that are flown today in several ways. It has smaller cowls that don't have turbo supercharger intercooler radiators. The turbo air is cooled by its routing through the outer wing panels' leading edges. The ailerons are not hydraulic-boosted like those of the L versions. It has a round windscreen instead of the flat, armor-plated glass type. The P-38F also carries 100 gallons less fuel. The engines are Allison V-1710-49 and 53 models with only l,200hp available instead of 1,325hp; the coolant radiators are smaller and do not have automatic temperature controls. The wing flaps do not have a maneuvering setting for high-speed use; the electrical system is run from only one generator located on the left engine, and all the engine instruments are AC-voltage-operated."

06-30-2009, 02:11 PM
Just watch the show on the History channel about her, recovery and first flight, this afternoon.

I have only one pic of her without people in it, from the Gathering.

06-30-2009, 02:18 PM
The stencil on the nose says P-38E....so is it an "E" or an "F"?

06-30-2009, 02:25 PM
Based on the info available, it seems Glacier Girl is an F model. How did the E and F models differ?

06-30-2009, 03:36 PM
Interesting to note from the pic(nice pic TOAD), that the 'shell ejection' chute is very far away from the guns.
Question - did ejected shells get jammed in this long chute ??.. if not the reasons/methodology why not.

06-30-2009, 03:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mr_Zooly:
Based on the info available, it seems Glacier Girl is an F model. How did the E and F models differ? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

F models incorporated more powerful engines and drop tanks.

06-30-2009, 03:39 PM
Cheers, saved me looking http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

06-30-2009, 03:48 PM
I would hazzard a guess that she is indeed a P-38E. Common sense prevailing that they would not stencil P-38E on an F model!

Just watched the show on discovery as well which is why I posted my ?

Since she is one of the most authentic P-38's I doubt they would stencil the wrong model number on her.

06-30-2009, 04:33 PM
When I visited Glacier Girl I asked about the E vs F issue. They said that Glacier Girl was initially built as a P-38E and thus that is what was stencilled on...and then was upgraded(?) to F standard prior to being sent out.

06-30-2009, 05:25 PM
It was the nosewheel of the P-38 that was used by Milsch as an excuse to delay the German jet program over a year.
How about that, the P-38 kept a lot of jets from flying without having to fire a single shot!

06-30-2009, 05:55 PM
She was an "F" model. I have an autographed copy of "The Lost Squadron" that is autographed by Mr. Epps that a high school buddy of mine sent me for a christmas present a few years ago as he works for Mr. Epps.