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Faceless13
02-14-2004, 06:13 PM
Im a little confused here folks. I've started a russian campaign and the plane that I've started in is the I 6. The problem is that the landing gear doesnt work at all!! I checked out the AI planes during takeoff and all of their landing gear raises. For some reason when I hit the g key the gear does not raise. Has anyone else experienced this?

Faceless13
02-14-2004, 06:13 PM
Im a little confused here folks. I've started a russian campaign and the plane that I've started in is the I 6. The problem is that the landing gear doesnt work at all!! I checked out the AI planes during takeoff and all of their landing gear raises. For some reason when I hit the g key the gear does not raise. Has anyone else experienced this?

Welshman_PF
02-14-2004, 06:18 PM
the landing gear on a I 16 is manual you have to config a key for it in the controls and pump the key to raise or lower the gear...

Call_me_Kanno
02-14-2004, 06:21 PM
lol...I had the same thoughts too at first. The I-16 has manualy raised and lowered gear. You have to map some keys to raise and some keys to lower the gear.

Destraex
02-14-2004, 06:21 PM
You will have to map the keys for manual gear raiseing I think from memory on the i16

its either that or you need to press G about 30 times to raise it manually

The real i16 the pilot had to manually pump the landing gear up

Faceless13
02-14-2004, 06:45 PM
Ahh, thanks for the info.

LEXX_Luthor
02-14-2004, 07:36 PM
Also I~16 and I~153 and Hurricane sometimes have engine cut out from negative gee (watch tach as you push stick forward) so watch engine guages (or sound maybe I don't use FB sound) and for those Rus fighters you have to be moving faster than ~200km/hr to re~start engine successfully (Ctrl+I). Hurri starts any airspeed. Cuts out in turbulent weather too so don't get caught at low and slow with I~16 and I~153 cos if engine cuts out then you can't dive to get speed to start engine. I first thought I was always running out of gas within 10 minutes in I~153 but it was the engine cut out from negative gee. Not well advertised this ( http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif ) Feature.


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Curly_109
02-15-2004, 04:03 AM
1. I think it's pretty stupid that you have to pump some key to lower/rise gear. Why not only press and hold? (because that key pumping can be very annoying - it takes more than few times http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif)
2. I may be wrong, but I16 cannot start an engine if not on an airfield (required a ground crew some of them say) but I'm not try that myself http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
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tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
02-15-2004, 04:58 AM
Well mate just be grateful you dont have to crank it up using the handel like the real pilots did http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Personaly I dont mind it and it at all as I think it lends authenticity to the whole expriance hell I might even build me an analogue handel so I can do it for real my self LMAO.
But if your having a hard time why not map your mouse buttons to raise and lower thats what I did.

Alexi_Alx_Anova
02-15-2004, 05:05 AM
Don't forget, as LEXX_Luthor has bought up, the early Spitfires (including the Mark V coming in the Aces expansion pack, yes LEXX I know, "In June" http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif) also had gravity-fed carburettors. That's going to take a bit of the shine off the new Spitfire for those who didn't know or had forgotten.

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Extreme_One
02-15-2004, 05:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alexi_Alx_Anova:
Don't forget, as LEXX_Luthor has bought up, the early Spitfires (including the Mark V coming in the Aces expansion pack, yes LEXX I know, "In June" http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif) also had gravity-fed carburettors. That's going to take a bit of the shine off the new Spitfire for those who didn't know or had forgotten.

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Are you sure that the Mark V Spitfire had gravity fed carborettors? I'm not... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

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DuxCorvan
02-15-2004, 05:10 AM
I heard of Spanish Civil War I-16 pilots that manually rising the landing gear was an operation that took more than a minute of hard, arm-breaking, sweating work. Not too fit for a scramble situation, rowing like Ben-Hur in a galley while tracking the speed and height of your plane and keeping an eye on the enemy... Also, the mechanism was easily jammed, specially after combat damage, so they always carried scissors to try to cut the cables and ropes that held the carriage beneath the pilot's seat and let it fall by gravity, so they could land. Whether the wheels got safely blocked in down position or not, was just a matter of luck.

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DeerHunterUK
02-15-2004, 05:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Extreme_One:

Are you sure that the Mark V Spitfire had gravity fed carborettors? I'm not... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

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I posted this about the gravity fed carburettor in the Spitfire back in October;

'In 1940, when Hurricane and Spitfire pilots encountered a life-or-death carburettor problem, she was already a highly regarded scientist at the Royal Aircraft Establishnient at Farnborough. The problem which landed on her desk in the carburation department was this: pilots were obliged to turn on their backs in combat to dive because the "negative-G" of simply putting the nose down resulted in starving the engine, causing it to splutter or cut out.
This was a critical defect since the Daimler-Benz engine powering enemy Me 109s permitted Luftwaffe pilots to perform the manoeuvre unhindered. Miss Shilling came up with a simple stop-gap device which cost less, as it happened, than a shilling.
Nicknamed "Miss Shilling's Orifice", it was a metal disc about the size of an old threepenny bit, with a small hole in the middle. It was brazed into the fighter's fuel pipe, and when the pilot accelerated in a dive the disc stopped even momentary starvation of the Merlin engine. By March 1941 Miss Shilling's Orifice had been installed
throughout Fighter Command, sufficing until replaced by an improved carburettor.'
This problem was not solved until an improved carb was adopted for the late production Mk V and later models.

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